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I received my 20D in the mail today! Along with the 50mm f/1.8 lens (I didn't buy a kit lens, so this is all I have to begin with). I also have a Bigma 50-500mm on the way (it'll probably get here in 3 or 4 days). This will be my first dSLR. I am upgrading from an Olympus C-5050Z (a very fine P&S camera I might add, it served me well).

I've only used the 20D for about 4 or 5 hours. Here is what I think of it so far, and things that I've noticed about it that I like or dislike:

The Good:

1) Amazing speed and incredibly responsive controls! Everything is SUPER FAST and instantaneous. You can start using the camera the instant you turn it on or come out of sleep-mode.
2) I love having both the control wheel and the joystick. I personally think they are well designed. I can see where someone with big hands might have trouble with the joystick. It works great for me though.
3) It has a very well-rounded balance of quality features, such as a DOF-preview button, mirror lock-up, date/time battery backup (probably lasts for 4 or 5 years minimum and is easy to replace yourself), easy to use controls (some may disagree, this is up to personal preference, I say it is easy and quick to use), etc.
4) Excellent battery life! Even after 4 or 5 hours (lots of flashes, lots of LCD use) the battery isn't even showing that it's half drained. Note: P&S cameras rely more on the LCD display, so that is one reason why P&S cameras have a shorter battery life.
5) You can take pictures very rapidly. While the camera is flushing the buffer out to your CompactFlash card, you can continue to do other things like navigate the menus, adjust settings, even take more pictures if there's enough room in the buffer.
6) Silky smooth images at last!! Goodbye color noise!!
7) I let my girlfriend give it a try, and she went CRAZY with it! She never did that with my previous cameras, so I was kind of shocked at first. I think one of the reasons is because she could take pictures so rapidly without having to wait for the camera to catch up. She was moving around taking pictures so fast that she almost appeared as a blur to me! She was also very impressed with the amazing quality this camera produces.

The Bad:

1) Sometimes the auto-focus has trouble locking on a target in low light conditions. (Even with a fast lens, 50mm f1/.8.) I've noticed it usually happens when you are targetting a "smooth" surface. If you focus on a contrasty edge, then it works perfectly. This probably sounds much worse than it really is -- don't worry, the auto-focus is very good.
2) This one isn't Canon-specific -- sensor dust. It's an issue that a lot of dSLRs have. There are some cameras that use ultrasonic vibrations to help clean the sensor, but unfortunately they are few. One potential problem with relying on ultrasonic vibration to clean the sensor is that the dust gets kicked around and can eventually end up back on the sensor. (In other words, even the ultrasonic vibration technology isn't perfect. There is no easy solution to this problem.)
3) The CompactFlash door is on the right side, and your palm rests against it. Sometimes it wiggles a little (just a tiny little bit). I wish it was a little more solid. I can end up squeezing the camera pretty hard if I'm taking an important shot. I think it's okay though, it could be worse. This is a "nitpicking issue," it probably won't bother most people.
4) Some of the controls are a little stiff. They might loosen up a bit after extended use. Although I'd rather have them stiff and sturdy than loose and ready-to-fall-off like some cameras. It also helps protect against accidentally bumping a control and changing a setting during a critical time.

The Ugly:

0) I haven't found anything at all that really bothers me. Yes there are some issues (like above in "The Bad" section), but what camera doesn't have it's bad points? There is no such thing as a perfect camera. Nothing in this world is perfect. You are getting "more than you should" at this price. The pictures that come out of this camera are as good as much higher priced pro-cameras. The only major difference is that the higher priced cameras have a few extra features, and a higher megapixel rating.

Other Notes:

1) If you are upgrading from a P&S camera, you might notice that the images from the 20D appear quite soft at first. From what I've gathered by researching this online, it is very normal. P&S cameras always oversharpen images because that's what average consumers look for (super sharp images over quality). Professional dSLR cameras don't sharpen by default because it is assumed the user is knowledgeable enough to do the sharpening themselves in Photoshop (or similar programs). Sharpening it yourself is ultimately better because you have more precise control over the process, and the algorithm on your computer is virtually always better than what is offered in-camera.
2) dSLRs do not have a live preview on the LCD screen. Since I'm upgrading from a P&S Olympus C-5050Z with live preview, I wondered "why can't they do it??" After doing some research I discovered it is because of the way the viewfinder works. When you look through the viewfinder, you are looking through the lens you have attached. If you look at the viewfinder on a P&S camera, and you look on the opposite side of the camera, you'll see it goes straight through and not through the actual lens. A dSLR uses mirrors. The mirror is in the way of the sensor when you are looking through the viewfinder, so that's why there is no live preview. When you press the shutter button all the way down, the mirror flips up and the sensor is exposed (the viewfinder also momentarily blacks out). Why is this better you ask? Because it's like looking through a glass window. Which has the higher resolution and best color reproduction; your own eyes, or a "TV?"
3) I've noticed some posts with the question, "how can I turn the shutter sound off?" Don't ask this question, people will laugh at you. There is no way to turn it off. P&S cameras try to make you feel like you own something more expensive by playing back a sound file through a tiny speaker. dSLRs do the *real* thing.
4) Here's an important tip about inserting the battery. When you insert the battery, be sure you push it down all the way until it clicks and the white hook grabs it. Otherwise when you try to close the battery door it will bend a little bit on one side and be uneven.
5) For those who haven't heard this tip before: When you attach or detach the lens from the body it is best to keep the body upside down with the sensor facing the floor. This way you can keep dust from falling in and onto the sensor to a minimum. Just be careful, don't drop anything expensive.
6) Also, I recommend that you turn the camera off before changing the lens. In theory, leaving the camera turned on while changing the lens can attract more dust because the sensor is carrying a charge. (Thanks Nill Toulme.)

I hope this mini-review helps someone out there. I know a lot of people already know this stuff. I wrote this primarily for people who are considering to buy a 20D and are looking for information to help them decide, and also for those dSLR newbies out there like myself.

If you learned something new, post a quick reply to let me know. Thanks and happy shooting!

[ Matthew E. Kieren ]
Canon EOS 20D :: Canon 50mm f/1.8 :: Sigma 50-500mm f/4-6.3

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Edited by Matthew Kieren on Jan 18, 2005 at 09:26 PM GMT

Edited by Matthew Kieren on Jan 19, 2005 at 04:12 PM GMT



Jan 17, 2005 at 10:41 PM
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Try posting it at the product review section, here:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=220&sort=7&thecat=15



Jan 17, 2005 at 11:05 PM
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Daniel Buck wrote:
Try posting it at the product review section, here:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=220&sort=7&thecat=15


Oops, forgot about that section! Thanks, will do.




Jan 17, 2005 at 11:10 PM
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People actually ask how to turn the shutter sound off?


Jan 18, 2005 at 12:24 AM
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Give him a break. The world of dSLR may seem stranger to some than others. ;-)


Jan 18, 2005 at 12:43 AM
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Actually, I think the one thing that really throws people when they make the jump to dSLR is the absence of a live preview on the back LCD. It's good that he mentioned that in his review...

Arka C.



Jan 18, 2005 at 12:54 AM
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Fine review but something important to remember is the frame of reference of the person posting a review.

to say that its an amazing fast camera is quite true if your used to a digicam but if your used to a 1 series its only going to seem slow.

if your other camera was a d30 your going to say its a huge increase in speed, but if your other camera was a 10d your going to say thats its a good bit faster but not mindblowing.

I think thats something that always gets forget when we read reviews for bodies or lenses.

the guy who owns a 35 1.4l, 85 1.2l, 135 f2 l and 200 1.8L is probably going to have a different standard for saying a lens is very sharp compared to a guy who's only lens is the old 35-80 kit lens from the film rebel days (one of canons worst lens)

Even what the person shots can really affect the mindset. Someone who shoots peewee sports can say that a lens is more than fast enough to track action but someone who shoots AMA superbikes at nearly 200mph may disagree

so bottom line, read all the reviews you want, but try to find out if the reviewer has similar experience and shooting styles as you do before you put too much faith into the review



Jan 18, 2005 at 01:03 AM
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The Big Bad wrote:
to say that its an amazing fast camera is quite true if your used to a digicam but if your used to a 1 series its only going to seem slow.


I disagree. The 20D's speed in image review, and readiness to shoot, gives my 1D Mark II a run for its money.

Arka C.



Jan 18, 2005 at 02:30 AM
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Thanks Matthew for sharing all this with us! I'm in the middle of exchanging my 300D for a 20D and your post helps!

Bas



Jan 18, 2005 at 02:35 AM
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Arka, I was mainly thinking about the frame rate. I know many people get the 20D and think that its 5 FPS is insanely fast, like a machine gun they say. This is because they may of been coming from a camera thats only been able to shoot at 1.5 FPS for 3 frames and then one frame every 3 seconds there after

On thet other hand, if your used to a 1 series, perhaps the 10 FPS speed the EOS-1v, then 5 FPS is hardly anything to get excited about.

Its all about your frame of reference.

If you get the chance to drive a porsche 911 or similar sports car, you may think its amazingly fast but if your other car is a top fuel draggster, the porsche probably feels like its barley moving.



Jan 18, 2005 at 02:57 AM
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I dont consider the 50 1.8 a fast lens...however do agree that the AF on the 20d does tend to have a focus lock issue from time to time in moderate/low light...


Jan 18, 2005 at 03:44 AM
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barely moving -


Jan 18, 2005 at 08:23 AM
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blinking8s wrote:
I dont consider the 50 1.8 a fast lens...however do agree that the AF on the 20d does tend to have a focus lock issue from time to time in moderate/low light...


i'm curious as to why you don't consider the 50 1.8 a fast lens?

since the maximum aperture of a lens is frequently referred to as the "speed " of a lens, and lenses with large apertures are known as fast lenses, it would seem that the 50 1.8 is indeed in the fast lane.

in terms of a 50mm canon lens still in production, only the 1.4 with it's larger aperture, would be considered "faster."

regards



Jan 18, 2005 at 08:38 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to write a detailed and well thought out review. I think in reference to how fast; it's a relative thing. Most people considering a 20D would be viewing it as an upgrade not comparing it to a 1 series camera.

Ron



Jan 18, 2005 at 08:51 AM
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Very nice mini-review Matt. Well done and congrats on the new camera.

Matthew Kieren wrote:
5) For those who haven't heard this tip before: When you attach or detach the lens from the body it is best to keep the body upside down with the sensor facing the floor. This way you can keep dust from falling in and onto the sensor to a minimum. Just be careful, don't drop anything expensive.

Also turn the camera *off* when you change lenses. In theory at least, while the camera is on, the sensor is carrying a charge, causing it to attract more dust than it will if you turn if off first.

Nill
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Jan 18, 2005 at 09:51 AM
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stephges wrote:
People actually ask how to turn the shutter sound off?


Heh, yes they do. I was shooting a recital the other night with PF-21 set on my Mark II (click-zzip, click-zzip, click-zzip). The guy with the video cam next to me popped up after it was over and said he really liked the shutter sound I had set on my camera. I said "that's nothin', check out this one that I downloaded," and fired off an 8fps burst. He was very impressed. ;-)

Nill
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Jan 18, 2005 at 09:55 AM
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Nill Toulme wrote:
Heh, yes they do. I was shooting a recital the other night with PF-21 set on my Mark II (click-zzip, click-zzip, click-zzip). The guy with the video cam next to me popped up after it was over and said he really liked the shutter sound I had set on my camera. I said "that's nothin', check out this one that I downloaded," and fired off an 8fps burst. He was very impressed. ;-)

Nill
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Hi Nill --sounds similar to a recent event I was at but I said --no it's not actually the camera it's the latest ringtone I downloaded for my Mobile Phone.

Cheers
-K



Jan 18, 2005 at 10:47 AM
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Thanks for the review Matthew!
It's good to see a review from the point of view of a person not already accustomed to the fine points of a SLR.
It seems that most reviews are written by people that have owned every 1 series EOS and are not impressed by 5fps or 9 point focusing. The fact is, a lot of people out there have never used a SLR and their only experience with a camera is a with a digital P+S or even (gasp) a disposable camera from Walmart! Compared to those, the 20D is AMAZING!



Jan 18, 2005 at 12:30 PM
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Nice review. I myself have been shooting with a nice P&S for a while and your observations are very similar to mine when initially getting the camera.


Jan 18, 2005 at 03:33 PM
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Thanks everyone for the nice comments.

I would have replied sooner, but my Internet connection went down last night and only came back up in the afternoon today.

This mini-review isn't really meant for people who own higher end cameras like the 1Ds, obviously those cameras are better (or at least they should be) because they cost so much more. I point out at the beginning that my previous camera was a C-5050Z, and also that I had only used the 20D for around 5 hours before writing the mini-review, so I would assume (and hope) that the reader would take those two things into consideration before jumping to any conclusions. After using the 20D some more last night and today, my mini-review seems to be holding up well. It's simply a wonderful camera. It met and in some cases exceeded all of my expectations.

[ Matthew E. Kieren ]
Canon EOS 20D :: Canon 50mm f/1.8 :: Sigma 50-500mm f/4-6.3



Jan 18, 2005 at 10:14 PM
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