Given the timing of Nokishita's posts usually this should mean an announcement in the next two weeks. I'm curious if these will be I series or just C series. A 90/2.8 should be compact but the 24/2 might be slightly less so.
It's also confusing because they released a 24/3.5 not long ago.
I have all the I-series lenses + 28-70/2.8 DG DN zoom from the Contemporary series from Sigma for E-mount and also several of the same lenses in L-mount (only missing 65/2).
90/2.8 could probably fit well as a new I-series entry although I'm not sure if I would go for one personally. There's been less need for tele-lenses for me in recent times and I already have some others...
Also wondering about why they would bring out a new 24/2 Contemporary after 24/3.5 DG DN. It would make even less sense as part of I-series. I suppose they also plan to have a 24/1.4 DG DN Art at some point. I'm probably not going to go for that one as I already have 24/3.5 DG DN and also Sony 24/1.4 GM... If they brought out a nice compact 28/2 (especially if it was part of I-series with aperture ring and typical I-series build) instead it would be much more appealing to me.
Juha Kannisto wrote:
90/2.8 could probably fit well as a new I-series entry although I'm not sure if I would go for one personally. There's been less need for tele-lenses for me in recent times and I already have some others...
I've been reading comments on the 90/2.8 how it might be a macro option. That would make sense given the focal length, although Sigma already has the 105/2.8 for that of course. That's in the Art series however, so there might be a C option on the cards.
90mm 2.8 might be the perfect compliment to the 40 G. Not going to rule out Sony having anything in the cards, but if the price and performance are better on the Sigma I'd be much more likely to compromise a bit on sealing and AF on a compact portrait lens than on a standard. I'd remain curious if Sony can outdo Sigma on the size/weight at a given performance/aperture combination though. Sigma is doing a good job trading a small amount of digital aberration correction for a good reduction in size... but Sony seems to be doing that as well as leveraging dual linear motors for even further size reduction.
Really wonder how the Sigma is going to compete against the Samyang though. I mean, I'm aware Samyang may still have some QC issues. Last I heard anyone who really handles a lot of lenses weigh in was R Cicala in ~2017-19(?) when he did a blog post about copy variation. Know some users here have reported bad copies, but there's a huge bias for negative reporting vs neutral and positive. The Samyang 24 1.8 is by all accounts almost everything we could hope from a 24 1.8 G, a 24 1.8 S, or a 24 1.8 L, etc—and priced at an absolute bargain. I'm assuming the Sigma 24i f2 can't really outperform the Samyang here, and we already heard from the Sigma CEO they're not fully weather sealing these to avoid competition with the ART line. So construction won't really be an advantage either as this creates a dichotomy of more metal vs fully sealed. I can see it doing much better on the L-mount, though I'm sure some Sony users will be drawn in by nothing other than the aesthetic.
Exciting news, and no matter who has the best lenses in the end we end up winning due to how fierce competition is becoming between these manufacturers .
JVan_02 wrote:
90mm 2.8 might be the perfect compliment to the 40 G. Not going to rule out Sony having anything in the cards, but if the price and performance are better on the Sigma I'd be much more likely to compromise a bit on sealing and AF on a compact portrait lens than on a standard. I'd remain curious if Sony can outdo Sigma on the size/weight at a given performance/aperture combination though. Sigma is doing a good job trading a small amount of digital aberration correction for a good reduction in size... but Sony seems to be doing that as well as leveraging dual linear motors for even further size reduction.
Really wonder how the Sigma is going to compete against the Samyang though. I mean, I'm aware Samyang may still have some QC issues. Last I heard anyone who really handles a lot of lenses weigh in was R Cicala in ~2017-19(?) when he did a blog post about copy variation. Know some users here have reported bad copies, but there's a huge bias for negative reporting vs neutral and positive. The Samyang 24 1.8 is by all accounts almost everything we could hope from a 24 1.8 G, a 24 1.8 S, or a 24 1.8 L, etc—and priced at an absolute bargain. I'm assuming the Sigma 24i f2 can't really outperform the Samyang here, and we already heard from the Sigma CEO they're not fully weather sealing these to avoid competition with the ART line. So construction won't really be an advantage either as this creates a dichotomy of more metal vs fully sealed. I can see it doing much better on the L-mount, though I'm sure some Sony users will be drawn in by nothing other than the aesthetic.
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Yep, I'm surprised how good SY24 is after reading its reviews... it seems nearly impossible for Sigma to beat it.
Seem like another missed opportunity to go for 28mm...
I’d take a small high IQ 90 2.8 in a heartbeat. I’m hopeful its not going to be macro. I’ll be keeping my APO 110, but an AF small 90 will be a great addition when needing to go light.
I think there was talk of a small Sony 70G that is macro, but not sure that Sigma could or would produce a small 90/2.8 Macro when they already have the excellent 105/2.8 Macro.
Woah thats good news but I would really love a F2.0 for the 90mm though. Just hoping for a slim opportunity that the 90mm is of the same vein as the 45mm 🙂
j4nu wrote:
Yep, I'm surprised how good SY24 is after reading its reviews... it seems nearly impossible for Sigma to beat it.
Seem like another missed opportunity to go for 28mm...
The only area where I can see the Sigma 24i F/2 beating the Samyang, aside from ergonomics, would be bokeh and OOF rendering. The 24GM is legendary in this regard and of course the Sigma i series are well-known for their rendering. But, I don't disagree that the Samyang 24/1.8 (even alongside the 24GM) looks very strong and very, very good value.
ryanli wrote:
The only area where I can see the Sigma 24i F/2 beating the Samyang, aside from ergonomics, would be bokeh and OOF rendering. The 24GM is legendary in this regard and of course the Sigma i series are well-known for their rendering. But, I don't disagree that the Samyang 24/1.8 (even alongside the 24GM) looks very strong and very, very good value.
This was what I was alluding to in my initial post with "almost everything we could hope from a first party lens" but I think this comes with a caveat that to my knowledge: I've only seen Sony make wide angles (24 & wider) with especially creamy bokeh (for a wide angle, not as an absolute comparison to all lenses) while maintaining a high level of technical performance and the Samyang 24 1.8 bokeh looks pretty good to be honest. I feel like if the Sigma actually improves the bokeh it'll have to come at the cost of performance unless they have an advancement like Sony's advanced and extreme aspherical element construction that allows them to have these two properties simultaneously. Of course, some might prefer a 24 with a greater focus on pleasant performance anyway—but again, the Samyang isn't bad at all.
I see two lens lines within the I-series
Slow lenses - 24/3.5, 45/2.8 and 90/2.8
Fast lenses - 24/2, 35/2 and 65/2
As such they all make sense to me. I have Sigma 24/3.5 and Zony 35/2.8 and would like to add the 90/2.8 to those. Hopefully the 90/2.8 is internal focus, small and has got a 55mm filter thread, like the 24/3.5 and 45/2.8
I would like to add the Sigma 24/2 to my other set, 20/1.8 G, 28/2, 35/1.8, 50/1.8, 55/1.8 and 85/1.8. If the 24/2 is like the other I-series lenses it will be the nicest to operate among the Sigma 24/2, Samyang 24/1.8 and Zeiss Batis 25/2. Hopefully Sigma can manage a 62mm filter thread on their 24/2.
Then I’ll have a nice small kit and a complete range of f/1.8-f/2 lenses. The Sigma 24/2 and 90/2.8 fit in really well.
bjornthun wrote:
I see two lens lines within the I-series
Slow lenses - 24/3.5, 45/2.8 and 90/2.8
Fast lenses - 24/2, 35/2 and 65/2
As such they all make sense to me. I have Sigma 24/3.5 and Zony 35/2.8 and would like to add the 90/2.8 to those. Hopefully the 90/2.8 is internal focus, small and has got a 55mm filter thread, like the 24/3.5 and 45/2.8
I would like to add the Sigma 24/2 to my other set, 20/1.8 G, 28/2, 35/1.8, 50/1.8, 55/1.8 and 85/1.8. If the 24/2 is like the other I-series lenses it will be the nicest to operate among the Sigma 24/2, Samyang 24/1.8 and Zeiss Batis 25/2. Hopefully Sigma can manage a 62mm filter thread on their 24/2.
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overkill is just enough
I have the same issue of too many "Standard" primes, well, an issue to me, the 90 has potential if small enough
Not going to rule out Sony having anything in the cards, but if the price and performance are better on the Sigma I'd be much more likely to compromise a bit on sealing and AF on a compact portrait lens than on a standard. I'd remain curious if Sony can outdo Sigma on the size/weight at a given performance/aperture combination though. Sigma is doing a good job trading a small amount of digital aberration correction for a good reduction in size... but Sony seems to be doing that as well as leveraging dual linear motors for even further size reduction. 