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Archive 2021 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

  
 
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p.23 #1 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


I find it increasingly hard to make a case for this lens at the price considering the new Sony 70-200 II. The Sony is best in class IQ, with World beating AF, no compromise lens. Able to shoot up to 30 fps with close to 100% keeper rate. It is not that much more expensive....


Oct 16, 2021 at 02:57 PM
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p.23 #2 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Does the Sony start @35mm?
Seriously, to me those are two completely different lenses.



Oct 16, 2021 at 02:59 PM
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p.23 #3 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


zeitlos wrote:
One tester said that AF-tracking (in some situations?) isn’t as good as that of the Tamron 70-180 f2.8.


I think I can live wit that .
The bokeh looks a lot better than 28-75 (to me, surprisingly rather near the longer end), from the Matt Granger video at least.
EDIT: watched the video to the end and indeed tracking seems to be on the weaker side. Well, I really enjoy 85DN, which is supposedly even worse according to some, so I still might get along with the Tamron as well.
Now, just to decide if I really want another rather big and heavy lens .



Oct 16, 2021 at 03:06 PM
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p.23 #4 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Dexter75 wrote:
Another video showing both the 28-75 and the 70-180 being just as good, if not better in some areas. At the AF test was awful. No wonder Tamron is marketing this as a walk around travel lens and not a pro portrait/wedding lens, they know. I may not even bother renting this actually. I feel sorry for all those who preordered it. This is why I always wait for reviews.


Sans mots.



Oct 16, 2021 at 03:40 PM
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p.23 #5 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


I have been very interested in this lens since I don't have any zooms yet and this covers a very handy range in one lens but I think after seeing all the videos posted so far that I'm leaning towards doing the classic zooms. 90% of my photography is of my very active 2 year old so I really value fast AF and although there is definitely appeal in having one lens covering so many useful focal lengths I think I'll still get more satisfaction out of a two lens setup. I'm still gonna keep an eye on this thread though as they start shipping to folks and more reviews get posted.


Oct 16, 2021 at 04:02 PM
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1bwana1 wrote:
I find it increasingly hard to make a case for this lens at the price considering the new Sony 70-200 II. The Sony is best in class IQ, with World beating AF, no compromise lens. Able to shoot up to 30 fps with close to 100% keeper rate. It is not that much more expensive....


That makes no sense whatsoever. Those are totally different lenses. GM II is great for what it is, no doubt about it however starting from 70 vs 35 is not even close. Also IQ of GM II is pretty much on par with Tamron 70-180, there are detailed vs reviews out there, testers couldn't tell the difference. So im not even sure if GM II is better than T35-150 IQ wise.


Also i didn't know that 1000$ more is not that much more expensive (so like over 50% more expensive than T35-150 lens). I guess everybody has their own scale of what is "not much more" for me thou it's quite a lot more.

I understand people like LYS here, the need for fast, reliable AF is a must, obviously, however for people who don't do sport etc... AF is more than good enough.

T35-150 for sure won't be a perfect lens and not for everybody. That being said - people trying to make a fail out of this lens are silly or have unrealistic expectations. Either way i'm glad Tamron made this lens, something new.



Oct 16, 2021 at 04:12 PM
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T35-150 for sure won't be a perfect lens and not for everybody. That being said - people trying to make a fail out of this lens are silly or have unrealistic expectations. Either way i'm glad Tamron made this lens, something new.


What is unrealistic about expecting a $2k lens priced like a GM lens to perform like one? It barely kept up with the 70-180 f/2.8, which is a $1200 lens and can be had for $850-$900 used right here on FM. In fact, its AF performance in Matt Granger's video was downright terrible. We haven't even seen the more high level pros testing this thing yet. Smart move by Tamron to keep it out of the hands of the real pro reviewers until they got all their preorders in.



Oct 16, 2021 at 04:28 PM
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That makes no sense whatsoever. Those are totally different lenses. GM II is great for what it is, no doubt about it however starting from 70 vs 35 is not even close. Also IQ of GM II is pretty much on par with Tamron 70-180, there are detailed vs reviews out there, testers couldn't tell the difference. So im not even sure if GM II is better than T35-150 IQ wise.

Also i didn't know that 1000$ more is not that much more expensive (so like over 50% more expensive than T35-150 lens). I guess everybody has their own scale of
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Is AF good enough for events in low light? That is yet to be determined.



Oct 16, 2021 at 04:33 PM
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p.23 #9 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Yup, we will see soon enough i do hope so thou.


Oct 16, 2021 at 04:35 PM
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p.23 #10 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Well even though I was extremely interested in the 35-150, now the 70-200 II has come along with such impressive specs, OSS and massive weight reduction and has far superior close-focus ability, I will no longer be buying this lens. I will cover the 35-70 gap with other lenses.


Oct 16, 2021 at 07:20 PM
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Immortal wrote:
That makes no sense whatsoever. Those are totally different lenses. GM II is great for what it is, no doubt about it however starting from 70 vs 35 is not even close. Also IQ of GM II is pretty much on par with Tamron 70-180, there are detailed vs reviews out there, testers couldn't tell the difference. So im not even sure if GM II is better than T35-150 IQ wise.


I guess that depends on how you approach lens choices. For me it is based on use cases. I se both the Tamron 35-150mm and the Sony 70-200mm as fitting into the event portraiture space. The Tamron biases to the wide end, and the Sony biases to the long end. In this use case that is the primary difference. However, outside this use case the Tamron is extremely limited because of its slower fps speed, and less capable AF. In this use case the AF performance of the Sony is way ahead from all the reviews I have seen. The Sony also has a much broader use case capability. Sports, wildlife, any action based activity.

Immortal wrote:
Also i didn't know that 1000$ more is not that much more expensive (so like over 50% more expensive than T35-150 lens). I guess everybody has their own scale of what is "not much more" for me thou it's quite a lot more.


The Tamron is only 1/3 less (funny how numbers work). $1,000 is not a lot in the World of photography. I would find the 35-150 a much more interesting proposition if it were priced in the $1200 range like the other Tamron zooms.


Immortal wrote:
I understand people like LYS here, the need for fast, reliable AF is a must, obviously, however for people who don't do sport etc... AF is more than good enough.


The AF in the 70-200 is World class. It is my experience that lenses with its capabilities will also likely get a higher hit rate at all speeds. Speed is not just about FPS. It is about focus acquisition speed, racking near to far, tracking, and low light situations. These and other AF challenges that one will encounter in event portrait shooting are also likely much better in the 70-200.


Immortal wrote:
T35-150 for sure won't be a perfect lens and not for everybody. That being said - people trying to make a fail out of this lens are silly or have unrealistic expectations. Either way i'm glad Tamron made this lens, something new.


No one is trying to make a fail out of the Tamron lens. Everyone will choose for himself what is important. The Sony is an industry leading lens in all areas of performance, features, and build. The Tamron just seems to me to have more compromises than the price differential justifies.

By the way, I am a Tamron fan, and have three of their excellent zooms in my Sony kit. You can see images of mine posted in their forum threads. I would still choose the Tamron 28-75/70-180 lens pair over this new lens. About the same price for that solution, with better IQ, lighter weight when on the camera, better AF it seems, and higher hit rate.

Of course, my opinion only.




Oct 16, 2021 at 11:19 PM
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p.23 #12 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


In another forum I read that in the EU it might already be available on Monday 18th. I doubt it. But we’ll know soon


Oct 17, 2021 at 01:25 AM
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zeitlos wrote:
In another forum I read that in the EU it might already be available on Monday 18th. I doubt it. But we’ll know soon


Supposed to be here on 20.10, so also this week .



Oct 17, 2021 at 02:17 AM
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p.23 #14 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Wow, pretty cool.


Oct 17, 2021 at 02:18 AM
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p.23 #15 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Here in Germany the earliest I saw was 25th. Most say 28th. We will see. Then will will get real world reviews


Oct 17, 2021 at 02:19 AM
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1bwana1 wrote:
I guess that depends on how you approach lens choices. For me it is based on use cases. I se both the Tamron 35-150mm and the Sony 70-200mm as fitting into the event portraiture space. The Tamron biases to the wide end, and the Sony biases to the long end. In this use case that is the primary difference. However, outside this use case the Tamron is extremely limited because of its slower fps speed, and less capable AF. In this use case the AF performance of the Sony is way ahead from all the reviews I have seen. The
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All personal, but (to me) there is a huge difference on the pictures I can take with 35mm compared to 70mm.
70-200 is "just" tele, while 35-150 is really versatile (again, to me).

Regarding the price, the GM is 1.63x of the Tamron's price around here, compared to only 1.47x in the US, if I got it right. I agree, that the absolute difference is not that that big in photography world (wink, wink - Leica), as you mention, Relatively though, it's quite substantial. Also, I prefer ~5cm less on the length of the Tamron, as opposed to ~100g weight reduction on the GM.

The biggest downside of the Tamron seems to be AF tracking, but as I mentioned 85DN is also rather bad on that front and I still like using it on my rather active kids .Still, depending on how bad it is, it might indeed make or brake this lens. As for fps, I find 15 fps enough for "casual" shooting, but again that's personal and depends on your intended usage (definitely a major differentiator when it comes to BIF/sports/action) . I rarely move the wheel to Hi+ as I hate the culling that inevitably happens afterwards .

I'm also wondering about both (and not only these unfortunately) lenses, but I was supposed not to buy lenses I don't really need any more (I guess I should get rid off: 135GM, 100-400GM or 24-70DN if that happens )



Oct 17, 2021 at 02:34 AM
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j4nu wrote:
All personal, but (to me) there is a huge difference on the pictures I can take with 35mm compared to 70mm.




This is not really personal



Oct 17, 2021 at 03:04 AM
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p.23 #18 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


j4nu w

All personal, but (to me) there is a huge difference on the pictures I can take with 35mm compared to 70mm.
70-200 is "just" tele, while 35-150 is really versatile (again, to me).


I do agree that there is a huge difference between images made at 35mm and 70mm. The Tamron is biased in that direction as I have said. However, when looking at the total FLs under discussion here (35-200mm), it is a two lens solution. There are a great number of well priced, very fast, small, lightweight, with great AF, and high IQ, high FPS, lens choices available as native e-mount in the 35mm to 70mm range. The choices between 150mm and 200mm are actually very limited. Certainly not one is available in that range that is better than the new Sony 70mm-200mm GM II. So if I am deciding on a system solution I lean towards that choice. I would probably select a prime to fill the middle of the 35mm-70mm gap. So many available.

My position is likely biased by shooting the Sony a1 as my main body.

Still, I acknowledge that for a very narrow use case the Tamron 35mm-150mm may in fact serve many peoples needs better. I do believe that Tamron made a pricing mistake with this lens. It should be repositioned lower.




Oct 17, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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p.23 #19 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Different people, different needs as always.

Not everybody have A1 or need 30 fps with 97% accuracy with tracking. Even if this lens wouldn't been made i would still prefer T70-180 over GM II 70-200 since i dont need mentioned 30 fps and the IQ between those two lenses is pretty much the same but the Tamron is like 1100$ here and the GM II is like 3500$.

My T35-150 should arrive on 25th so one more week.

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Oct 17, 2021 at 11:04 AM
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p.23 #20 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)


Immortal wrote:
My T35-150 should arrive on 25th so one more week.



Congratulations! I hope it is everything you you want it to be, and gives you many years of excellent results.



Oct 17, 2021 at 11:16 AM
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