p.12 #1 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
I think this lens will be sharp along the lines of their other recent zooms. It's the only way it will sell at that price. If it's not a great, after a few online reviews very few people would pay that kind of money.
p.12 #2 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
nick williams wrote:
I think this lens will be sharp along the lines of their other recent zooms. It's the only way it will sell at that price. If it's not a great, after a few online reviews very few people would pay that kind of money.
Good points all. As an owner of the extraordinary 70-180, I have confidence that it will be a great performer in likely in line with GM standards. Of course for those who shoot bursts, it won't do the highest frame rate that Sony saves for itself.
p.12 #3 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
I was so hyped for this lens that I stayed up late a few nights ago ready to preorder as soon as it went live...until I saw the price. $2,079 after tax is just way too much. Thats GM lens pricing for a 3rd party, variable aperture zoom. I would have much preferred a constant f/2.8 if it would have been smaller, lighter and priced at or under $1500. I'll be keeping my Tamron 28-200 for now and renting the 35-150 to see if its even any good (dont like the bokeh quality and falloff at all in the sample portraits), but will definitely wait for a major price drop or them to hit the used forum here.
p.12 #4 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
In Germany it can be preordered for 1779,- Euro (after tax).
I think if the bokeh (and sharpness of course) is good it‘s a killer lens for portrait photographers.
Wedding photographers will finally have found their ultimative lens. And if it‘s only available for Sony (is it?) it‘s a huge pro for the Sony system.
I‘m still not sure if it‘s a „travel“ lens… But then again… it depends on what kind of travel. For casual shooting it‘s definitely to heavy, I suppose. If it‘s mainly a journey you do in order to take pictures, it might/will qualify as a travel lens.
p.12 #5 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
I was so hyped for this lens that I stayed up late a few nights ago ready to preorder as soon as it went live...until I saw the price. $2,079 after tax is just way too much. Thats GM lens pricing for a 3rd party, variable aperture zoom. I would have much preferred a constant f/2.8 if it would have been smaller, lighter and priced at or under $1500. I'll be keeping my Tamron 28-200 for now and renting the 35-150 to see if its even any good (dont like the bokeh quality and falloff at all in the sample portraits), but will definitely wait for a major price drop or them to hit the used forum here. ...Show more →
You say "variable aperture" as if f/2 to f/2.8 is a step below a constant f/2.8. I guess if you're doing a ton of video maybe...
p.12 #7 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
MAubrey wrote:
You say "variable aperture" as if f/2 to f/2.8 is a step below a constant f/2.8. I guess if you're doing a ton of video maybe...
Im talking about portrait, wedding or event photography, especially outdoors. I shoot with the 28-200, which is a variable aperture zoom. You constantly have to watch your settings as you go thru the focal lengths because they are ever changing. Granted, f/2-2.8 is a smaller range than my f/2.8-5.6 but youre still dealing with f/2, 2.2, 2.5 and 2.8 which is not ideal.
Lets say you are shooting a wedding or event and need to go from 35-40mm out to 135mm or so quickly. That jump from f/2 to f/2.8 is going to require a change to your shutter speed and ISO or the photos will look way off from each other and your client wont be very impressed. How fast do you think you can change your settings before you miss a shot at a wedding?
This is why every professional grade zoom has a constant aperture and variable aperture is for budget zooms. Even going from f/2 to f/2.2 is more than likely going to require you change your settings, especially if you are outdoors where your light may be changing. For the price of this lens, having a variable aperture is a major downfall.
p.12 #9 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
zeitlos wrote:
Wow…
Good that you understand photography.
But maybe you just understand your photography and not that of many others.
BTW. To me your reasoning isn‘t convincing.
As I said, there is a very good reason every pro grade zoom aimed at pros is constant aperture while the other budget zooms aimed at casual shooters and hobbyists are variable aperture. Having said that, Im a professional shooter and I make the 28-200 work, its not ideal but it was less than $600 used. For a $2k pro grade zoom lens, I expect a fast constant aperture, not variable.
p.12 #10 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
Im talking about portrait, wedding or event photography, especially outdoors. I shoot with the 28-200, which is a variable aperture zoom. You constantly have to watch your settings as you go thru the focal lengths because they are ever changing. Granted, f/2-2.8 is a smaller range than my f/2.8-5.6 but youre still dealing with f/2, 2.2, 2.5 and 2.8 which is not ideal.
Lets say you are shooting a wedding or event and need to go from 35-40mm out to 135mm or so quickly. That jump from f/2 to f/2.8 is going to require a change to your shutter speed and ISO or the photos will look way off from each other and your client wont be very impressed. How fast do you think you can change your settings before you miss a shot at a wedding?
This is why every professional grade zoom has a constant aperture and variable aperture is for budget zooms. Even going from f/2 to f/2.2 is more than likely going to require you change your settings, especially if you are outdoors where your light may be changing. For the price of this lens, having a variable aperture is a major downfall. ...Show more →
Honestly, no disrespect but i never seen a professional photographer using Tamron 28-200/F2.8-5.6 for his (paid or even free) work, never even heard about one till now.
Aside from that T35-150/F2-F2.8 for wedding/event or portrait is amazing, with modern camera there is no risk whatsoever to just use shutter priorioty with auto ISO limit on and since the light gathering only changes at worst from F2 to F2.8 which is only one stop this will work without fail.
It may not work for your style of taking photos but for most wedding/event/portrait photographers this Tamron is almost a perfect lens.
p.12 #11 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
As I said, there is a very good reason every pro grade zoom aimed at pros is constant aperture while the other budget zooms aimed at casual shooters and hobbyists are variable aperture. Having said that, Im a professional shooter and I make the 28-200 work, its not ideal but it was less than $600 used. For a $2k pro grade zoom lens, I expect a fast constant aperture, not variable.
So just set your aperture at 2.8 then. Now it's a "pro grade zoom".
p.12 #12 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
Lets say you are shooting a wedding or event and need to go from 35-40mm out to 135mm or so quickly. That jump from f/2 to f/2.8 is going to require a change to your shutter speed and ISO or the photos will look way off from each other and your client wont be very impressed. How fast do you think you can change your settings before you miss a shot at a wedding?
Actually you don‘t need to be fast, just smart by using e. g. shutter priority with auto iso as mentioned by @Immortal. Shooting only in manual mode doesn’t make you a Pro.
p.12 #13 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Immortal wrote:
Honestly, no disrespect but i never seen a professional photographer using Tamron 28-200/F2.8-5.6 for his (paid or even free) work, never even heard about one till now.
just use shutter priorioty with auto ISO limit on
...and Ive never seen a professional photographer using auto settings on their camera, never even heard about it until now...
Why wouldn't a pro use the 28-200? Because its a variable aperture lens? Just like the 35-150? If you would like to see what this lens can do in the hands of a capable pro, there are plenty of reviews on YouTube. Here are a couple.
p.12 #14 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
...and Ive never seen a professional photographer using auto settings on their camera, never even heard about it until now...
Why wouldn't a pro use the 28-200? Because its a variable aperture lens? Just like the 35-150? If you would like to see what this lens can do in the hands of a capable pro, there are plenty of reviews on YouTube. Here are a couple.
T28-200 by design is a ligh, convinient lens for travel - by design and by Tamron own description. You can make it work for any purpose like with any lens. Just for weddings / events there are dozen or more better suited lenses for the job.
I do own the lens, i post photos made with it here in T28-200 photo thread on regular basis and while its good for what it is - it will never be first choice for weddings or portraits.
You can think what you want, nobody is forcing anybody but when it comes to T35-150/F2-2.8 its clear to 99% of people here or pretty much anywhere i've seen (including YT) that this is (will be) an amazing lens for weddings and portraits and is seen by many portrait and wedding photographers as holy grail for that purpose.
p.12 #15 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Immortal wrote:
T28-200 by design is a ligh, convinient lens for travel - by design and by Tamron own description.
The 35-150 is also designed for travel. Straight from the first sentence about it on Tamron's website... We created a fast-aperture zoom lens ideal for the creation of art while traveling to take photos
So why is the 35-150 a "pro" lens suitable for weddings and events but the 28-200 is not? Id argue its far more important to have 28-34mm, where space may be limited for group photos on the wide end, and 151-200mm when you may be limited by how close you can get on the telephoto end, than a faster aperture.
p.12 #17 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
bjornthun wrote:
So, if pros don’t use variable aperture zooms, then they surely don’t use
Sony FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM
Canon RF 100-500/4.5-7.1 L IS USM
I imagine most actual pro wildlife/sports photographers don't use those lenses though.
p.12 #18 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
The 35-150 is also designed for travel. Straight from the first sentence about it on Tamron's website... We created a fast-aperture zoom lens ideal for the creation of art while traveling to take photos
So why is the 35-150 a "pro" lens suitable for weddings and events but the 28-200 is not? Id argue its far more important to have 28-34mm, where space may be limited for group photos on the wide end, and 151-200mm when you may be limited by how close you can get on the telephoto end, than a faster aperture.
The 28-200 is a very well rounded lens that I'm sure some wedding photographers are using. It's definitely a travel zoom though. I wouldn't personally want to use a lens like that for client work.
This new 35-150 looks like it's better built, looks sharper, and obviously had a far more preferable aperture range. The 28-200 hits f/5 by 135mm. For video, and even for event work, I would almost certainly go with the 35-150 every day of the week over the 28-200 if I was shooting 1 body 1 lens.
p.12 #19 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
So why is the 35-150 a "pro" lens suitable for weddings and events but the 28-200 is not? Id argue its far more important to have 28-34mm, where space may be limited for group photos on the wide end, and 151-200mm when you may be limited by how close you can get on the telephoto end, than a faster aperture.
For weddings and events you're capturing moving subjects and often in spaces with low light. The 35-150 is more suitable so you don't have to bump up your ISO to uncomfortable levels. Not to mention the shallow depth of field look many clients want. As for the 28-34mm, it's not a huge advantage because if 35 is not wide enough then 28 likely isn't as well. I expect you would need a 24mm or an ultra wide in these cases.
And all of this doesn't take into account that while we don't have many reviews to go off of right now, I would bet money that the 35-150 is superior in sharpness, CA control, AF speed, and rendition of oof areas. Looking forward to reviews. I likely won't pick one up but it's certainly tempting as a one lens solution for portrait work.
p.12 #20 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
jmcy wrote:
For weddings and events you're capturing moving subjects and often in spaces with low light. The 35-150 is more suitable so you don't have to bump up your ISO to uncomfortable levels. Not to mention the shallow depth of field look many clients want. As for the 28-34mm, it's not a huge advantage because if 35 is not wide enough then 28 likely isn't as well. I expect you would need a 24mm or an ultra wide in these cases.
And all of this doesn't take into account that while we don't have many reviews to go off of right now, I would bet money that the 35-150 is superior in sharpness, CA control, AF speed, and rendition of oof areas. Looking forward to reviews. I likely won't pick one up but it's certainly tempting as a one lens solution for portrait work....Show more →
This isn't the DSLR days any longer. Higher ISO are a non issue with newer mirrorless cameras, especially Sony cameras. I can compensate for the slower aperture by increasing my ISO, I can also make adjustments to brighten in post if I need to. However, I can never turn 35mm into 28mm or 150mm into 200mm. Id much rather have a wider range of focal lengths for wedding and events over slightly faster apertures. 28-34mm IS a big deal though. Hell, people go crazy when a zoom is 28mm instead of 24mm. 28 to 35 is significant.
The 35-150 looks to be a pretty good lens, but overpriced for what it is, a 3rd party variable aperture zoom from a company known for its budget lenses. This isn't GM quality or optics. Im sure several used ones will turn up here soon and I'll consider one for <$1500. I guess we just wait for some reviews.
