p.9 #1 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
michaelwatkins wrote:
I'm wondering if it is worth sending my A7R (the original) in for a sensor mod to run my M lenses, for a backup and as an alternative platform. I got rid of most of them a number of years ago but seem to be heading back toward small lenses again and have acquired some Voigtlander Ultrons and a Summulux or two.
You can, but that sensor is not BSI, so you’re going to get more color shift and vignetting. I’d go for an a7r2 for those reasons, and IBIS.
p.9 #2 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
retrofocus wrote:
You have to pay about the same price for the sensor modification what the A7R is worth it as used camera model currently. For a few hundred dollars more you can be getting a brand new Nikon Zf mirrorless camera which comes with a thinner sensor stack more suitable to be used with M lenses, too. I also have a Sony A7R but wouldn't vest money to have it modified at this point.
Indeed - I'm not surprised at the economic argument as I'd not priced anything out. I should have sold the A7R and my two remaining FE lenses a looooong time ago.
So, for whatever it is worth, the A7R will go to a new home then, as will the IBIS lacking Z6 that mostly sits on a shelf these days. I can see a Zf or one of the new Z6 in my future as a backup/other use body to my M body.
nehemiahphoto, I've moved far away from Sony and have some Nikon downsizing to do, too. The lenses I shoot most with these days look comical on my Z8 and Z9.
p.9 #4 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
retrofocus wrote:
To my knowledge this Zf sensor beats existing sensor stack thickness from other brands - certainly from Canon and Sony. Not so sure regarding difference to Panasonic MLCs though. I am reading great reviews of Zf working with adapted M lenses! Maybe I missed it, but I am not aware that some M lenses exhibit here similar issues compared to thicker sensor stacks common with e. g. Sony sensors.
p.9 #5 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
Fred Miranda wrote:
The A7R II comes from a time when the grip was small, which I much prefer. After its popularity, many shooters from other brands pressured Sony into making bigger grips, and they complied with every subsequent version.
Speaking of "yellow," I now remember I briefly tested a modded A7R III at one point, and the white balance was really messed up, especially towards the tungsten. Do you have a contact for NKIR? Do they still do modifications?
Sorry—missed this! Not sure if they still do mods. I checked in with them about 12 months ago via facebook messenger and he was still active and there was a 2 month wait period at that point (good sign I think). I can get you their contact if you’d like. I don’t have it on hand.
p.9 #6 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Sorry—missed this! Not sure if they still do mods. I checked in with them about 12 months ago via facebook messenger and he was still active and there was a 2 month wait period at that point (good sign I think). I can get you their contact if you’d like. I don’t have it on hand.
After extensive tweaking and testing, I found the best settings for the Kolari-modded camera to correct the white balance with their new cover glass, which affects temperature and tint. Apply these settings to all white balance presets, including Auto WB:
p.9 #7 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
Fred Miranda wrote:
After extensive tweaking and testing, I found the best settings for the Kolari-modded camera to correct the white balance with their new cover glass, which affects temperature and tint. Apply these settings to all white balance presets, including Auto WB:
For those following along with a Kolari-modded Sony, I've slightly adjusted the settings to:
A-B: B5.5
B-M: G3
Colors now look much closer to my unmodified Sony. The only downside with the thin-sensor mod is the need for WB tint/temp tweaking, but thankfully Sony gives you the tools to fix it in-camera.
p.9 #9 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
For me you hit my focus, I have a funleader M mount mod of the 45/2 as I really liked the lens when I shoot/shot the G. No tests, but the 45/2 always seems good to me,and I have the VM 50/1.2 for low light especially with a MP, but also for M11. So paying close attention to your tests do I need a 50/2 apo, I have not seen clarity yet but looking forward your bottom line and see if it pushes me one way or another.
Thank you! Fixed.
I remember doing this test and noticing that the Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton and the Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux ASPH share a lot of similarities in rendering, even when both are shot wide open.
p.9 #13 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
Fred Miranda wrote:
Thank you! Fixed.
I remember doing this test and noticing that the Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton and the Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux ASPH share a lot of similarities in rendering, even when both are shot wide open.
Thank you very much, really appreciate seeing the differences there, Leica out of reach for me for now but it's nice knowing what could be.
Does look like the Leica has that glow more under control but nokton has its advantages too.
I think I've been sticking to f1.6 and up when that close with the Nokton.
I get a glow with the fuji xf 35mm f1.4 when shooting close too but it's usually a nicer glow whereas with the nokton it's more like something is wrong so I try not to let it show. I do like having the option of going lower for longer range when it might be nicer even without the sharpness.
p.9 #14 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
It was written the 1.2 VM would be good for scenery and so it is this 5.6 with M11P
A DH Beaver flight from Talkeetna to Denali. The Beaver only reached 9700 feet or 11,000 feet under the peak ! This is the south face of Denali close up and only half way up. Beavers are great for sightseeing but cannot climb that high, and unpressurized it would not be advisable if they it could. Amazing day, one of the best days of the summer in Alaska, a day to drop everything and go see Denali that is even visible from my window in Anchorage on a day like this. The second picture "the beaver" ..
p.9 #15 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
Yogifi wrote:
Thank you very much, really appreciate seeing the differences there, Leica out of reach for me for now but it's nice knowing what could be.
Does look like the Leica has that glow more under control but nokton has its advantages too.
I think I've been sticking to f1.6 and up when that close with the Nokton.
I get a glow with the fuji xf 35mm f1.4 when shooting close too but it's usually a nicer glow whereas with the nokton it's more like something is wrong so I try not to let it show. I do like having the option of going lower for longer range when it might be nicer even without the sharpness....Show more →
You're welcome! Yes, the Nokton shows more glow, especially on close subjects, because it doesn't have the FLE correction that the Leica does.
p.9 #17 · Leica 50/1.4 Lux vs Voigtlander 50/1.2 Nokton vs 50/2 APO
I use the APO 50 lens on a bright sunny day and love the lack of flare and the high contrast of the APO, but the downside of these lenses is the sharp tonal gradation. This is especially noticeable in black-and-white photography and when compared to low-contrast lenses, especially pre-aspherical ones.
