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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Tried taking your advice!


I had the opportunity today to shoot a little girl who is having her second brain surgery on Monday. What a warrior, truly. I felt very lucky to have her and her mother in the studio today.

Overwhelmingly the last few times I've posted, the general feedback is that I've got a heavy hand with the skin smoothing. So, for this shoot, I've tried to tone it back a bit and let the skin breathe. This brave kiddo definitely didn't need much skin retouching anyway!

I'd love your feedback, as always. Thank you for looking!

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Jun 12, 2021 at 09:16 PM
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Really nice series. You could have toned down the pp on the faces just a little more, but these are definitely a step in the right direction. These are all really great, but my personal favorite is Number 4.

Thanks for the reminder of how lucky some of are that our kids don't have to go through something like this. She seems like a joy even with her struggles.



Jun 12, 2021 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Tried taking your advice!


These are just fabulous, especially the ones without the ghastly hats (or whatever they are). I realize that others think they are really attractive--to each is own, as they say.


Jun 12, 2021 at 11:57 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Tried taking your advice!


Beautiful series. I like them all.

Please let us know how she is after the surgery.

Charley



Jun 13, 2021 at 06:51 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Tried taking your advice!


Yahoo! Now we're talking! These are excellent and just the right amount of post. Great job, Dawn.


Jun 13, 2021 at 07:53 AM
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What a great set of lovely images of that girl, Dawn! I feel sorry for that girl that she has/had to go through at that tender age. I hope the surgery went well.

Joshua



Jun 13, 2021 at 08:47 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Tried taking your advice!


Just beautiful photography Dawn! I love women in hats! She wears them well!
My prayers are with her!
Dan



Jun 13, 2021 at 09:41 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Tried taking your advice!


Nicely done. Good job on the slight pullback without losing the vibe of your style.

That said, I do like some of your "stylized" renderings ... so don't say "never" on the heavier styling, just be aware that it can be a bit much at times.

I think that when your subject is in older "period" costume, you can use a slightly heavier hand. When they are in contemporary costume ... as here ... I think the "light touch" is the "right touch".

Again, good job.



Jun 14, 2021 at 05:29 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Tried taking your advice!


Really lovely work here and hoping for the best for this little one!


Jun 15, 2021 at 05:41 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Tried taking your advice!


Lovely clean shots!


Jun 16, 2021 at 08:13 PM
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A lovely series of a brave young lady.


Jun 27, 2021 at 07:13 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Tried taking your advice!


Wonderful.


Jun 27, 2021 at 11:12 AM
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Absolutely great photos taken of a beautiful young lady.


Aug 08, 2021 at 02:37 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Tried taking your advice!


There is so much more to your photography than how you process your sitters' skin.

To me, your skin processing along with the lighting, costumes and expressions all work together to define your style.

The images of this young girl are lovely. Holding back on the skin processing works fine for me, but I probably would have also loved the images if you hadn't held back!



Aug 10, 2021 at 06:54 PM
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I would suggest a couple of reflectors or white boards to balance the lighting .Her feet and legs are in darkness in #2 and #5. Her left ear is lost in the shadows of several as well. I think that you are exceeding the dynamic range of the equipment and you may be trying to make up for it in post.


Sep 04, 2021 at 12:18 PM
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BrianC inAZ wrote:
I would suggest a couple of reflectors or white boards to balance the lighting .Her feet and legs are in darkness in #2 and #5. Her left ear is lost in the shadows of several as well. I think that you are exceeding the dynamic range of the equipment and you may be trying to make up for it in post.


On a calibrated screen there's nothing lost anywhere. These images are quite exquisite and part of what makes them so is that those details ARE dark but they're still there. The subtlety is really beautiful and if Dawn did what you suggest, they'd be over lit and lost much of their mood. The girl's face and expression tell the story. The rest support that story without pulling attention away from it.



Sep 05, 2021 at 11:08 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Tried taking your advice!


She asked for feedback and you critique my suggestions as though I insulted your mother.
I disagree with your opinion about the images.
The child is cut, yes, the images are not exquisite though. The full body images could use a little more reflected light for balance. Shooting a full body shot with the bottom 3rd not lit is not exquisite, it is amateurish.
As far as calibrated screen, who said anything about whether or not anyone's screen is calibrated? How does that affect the issues of lack of light? It does not.
Too many people don't light properly, then they try to make it up in post. That is good software skill set, not good photography skills.



Sep 05, 2021 at 04:21 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Tried taking your advice!


I would like a little more even lighting ratio.
The low lit feet don't bother me at all.



Sep 05, 2021 at 05:57 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Tried taking your advice!


BrianC inAZ wrote:
She asked for feedback and you critique my suggestions as though I insulted your mother.
I disagree with your opinion about the images.
The child is cut, yes, the images are not exquisite though. The full body images could use a little more reflected light for balance. Shooting a full body shot with the bottom 3rd not lit is not exquisite, it is amateurish.
As far as calibrated screen, who said anything about whether or not anyone's screen is calibrated? How does that affect the issues of lack of light? It does not.
Too many people don't light properly, then they try to
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Brian - Yes, whether your screen is calibrated or not, and specifically how it was calibrated and to what target points, along with your ambient viewing conditions actually does make a difference - sometimes a little and other times a lot. It sounds to me like your screen isn't calibrated or you wouldn't be making the argument you're making, and it shows a basic lack of understanding of how calibration, viewing conditions, crushed blacks, etc., can profoundly affect your perception, and in this case, the ability to see into the shadows. If you're not able to see the girl's ear or feet, then your screen is crushing the blacks, plain and simple.

Even if you have calibrated your screen, you still need to do a few basic tests in order to make sure your screen can show you everything that is on the file. One of the most basic things to do is construct a neutral step wedge in Photoshop that goes from 0,0,0, to 255,255,255 and to it in approximately 5% increments but tighten that up at either end, from 0,0,0 to 10,10,10 and from 250,250,250 to 255,255,255 bring the increments down to two units per step. A great monitor and calibration will show you separation all the way down to zero to 2 range in the shadows and in the 253 to 255 range in the highlights. A step wedge like that will tell you immediately if your screen is crushing out black detail that is actually on the file, which seems likely in your case, based on your own claimed observations.

So let's hear about your screen, your calibration, what hardware and software and what your ambient viewing conditions are like. You're missing the exquisiteness of Dawn's images because you're looking at a crappy screen. Not any different than a sound engineer trying to mix on speakers that don't reproduce the full audio spectrum. The analogy here for you would be you listening to a great mix done in a great studio and then played back on a cheap boombox that can't play back anything below a hundred hertz and you complain that there's no bass in the mix.



Sep 06, 2021 at 05:48 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Tried taking your advice!


Here's taking one of the images and placing four of the color sampling probes in the image you can see that even in the very darkest area just to the right of the ankle, the numbers are still in the 10-12 vicinity and the other selected areas are clearly in the very visible and very printable range. Most digital printers whether they're inkjet or chemical will print everything below around 10 as black but everything above that will print with detail. The numbers don't lie and they always help tell the story that sometimes can't be seen. Of course it's an inconvenience to download and open in Ps to read the numbers but it also illustrates how important the Info Palette is and why that's the one Palette you should always keep open no matter what you're working on.







Sep 06, 2021 at 02:15 PM
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