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Mitch Alland wrote:
@genji@
Strange, when I take carefully-sized screen grabs of the two sets of color images, and look at them in Preview on the Mac, so that they show like a slide-show (in the same position), I can see no difference between the Adobe and Cobalt visions in the A7R3 set; and in the M10-P only a difference in the reds of the dress and the singlet but, surprisingly no difference in skin tones. Other sets earlier in the thread show large differences in the Adobe and Cobalt profiles. What do you think accounts for that?
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The purpose is to have calibrated profiles as a basic profile.
That is not a revolution coming from Adobe std/color (yes, for Capture one is closer to the definition of revolution ), and on daylight , for pictures not very busy of colors with small details, the difference is not even easy to find.
But, for people who like to spend thousands for a better MTF or 10 mpx more, is crazy do not to take into account, for more complex pictures , with hard lights, harsh lights, skin tones, busy vegetations, etc... the color accuracy of the camera.
Please try to take a picture of a model with yellows and reds under the light of the sun or the studio lights and the difference will be huge, for the photographer, for the product manager at the side, for the model, for the guy in charge for PP.
https://i.imgur.com/pAjcAkr.jpg
Wow I like that red I would say when I see the image on the right from Adobe std but the product manager of the shirt would say... yes but is not the real color...and the pp editor would say, why I did not study medicine? 
That for pro... I personally can't say the standard Adobe profile is not enough for the average photographer (so not the crazy for mtf, and expensive gear), it's pleasing and they know that, pleasing and in the latest cameras perfect against extreme lights, so more "limited" than before but less extended in colors.
BUT when I take a picture of my beloved one under the sun in Hyde Park and I see that difference (left Adobe, right Cobalt) on Canon 5ds...
https://i.imgur.com/XBpnWFl.jpg
.. I understand why I should take care of colors.
Same here on a model in Royal gardens on early sunlight
https://i.imgur.com/d1iAuXI.jpg
and before the shooting, I told her.. "nice purple your dress", purple, NOT RED.
you can see why on this comparison on our website
https://i.imgur.com/CGBswRz.jpg
https://cobalt-image.com/how-to/how-it-works/
The red on Adobe is COMPRESSED, and so the yellows and oranges...(blue as well)
So, even without talking about the "coherence" between different cameras offered by our Cobalt profiles, I WARMLY suggest to calibrate your cameras with at least a Xryte SG or... buy pro profiles like the ours; does not make any sense to save money for that after the big investment already made for bodies (always not 100% exploited) or always more sharpen lenses.
A real pro with thousands invested in medium format cameras and lenses, lights and other studio equipment, start with software already fitted with WELL calibrated profiles (Phocus for Hassy or C1 for Mamiya and Phase one..) and , is already committed to spend money in order to calibrate HIS camera with HIS lights and HIS lenses just to be sure all money invested are well invested....
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