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p.287 #1 · Sony A1 Image Thread


If someone cannot afford 600 f4 qnd decide to buy a 300 f2.8 and 2x TC, would it be an option or ridicolous advanture?


Nov 12, 2023 at 02:39 AM
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p.287 #2 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Uzay wrote:
If someone cannot afford 600 f4 qnd decide to buy a 300 f2.8 and 2x TC, would it be an option or ridicolous advanture?


At ½ the cost certainly an option, no?




Nov 12, 2023 at 03:38 AM
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p.287 #3 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Uzay wrote:
If someone cannot afford 600 f4 qnd decide to buy a 300 f2.8 and 2x TC, would it be an option or ridicolous advanture?

Somewhat ridiculous.

It depends on how bad the TC turns out to be on that lens compared to the 200-600G, which is almost 4x cheaper, while only 20% heavier (but much lighter than the 600GM). The zooms IQ is similar to a 600GM with TC1.4 attached: slightly better in the center, significantly worse towards the edges. This is when comparing per pixel, the subject is obviously much smaller than the 840mm of the prime with TC1.4. The prime with the TC2.0 is significantly worse in the center.

So, unless the 300GM is *much* better than the 600GM in terms of TCs, it seems rather daft to buy such an expensive lens, when the main intended usage is to have the TC2.0 attached.



Nov 12, 2023 at 05:26 AM
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p.287 #4 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Sony ILCE-1, FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS, 600.0 mm, f/6.3, 1/500s, ISO 8000





Nov 12, 2023 at 06:05 AM
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p.287 #5 · Sony A1 Image Thread


A1 with 200600




  ILCE-1    Sony FE 200–600mm F5.6–6.3 G OSS (SEL200600G) lens    600mm    f/6.3    1/4000s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    Sony FE 200–600mm F5.6–6.3 G OSS (SEL200600G) lens    600mm    f/6.3    1/4000s    640 ISO    0.0 EV  




Nov 12, 2023 at 08:08 AM
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p.287 #6 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Slow shutter speed and shallow depth of field in play just before sunrise




  ILCE-1    FE 400mm F2.8 GM OSS lens    400mm    f/2.8    1/2500s    1000 ISO    0.0 EV  




Nov 12, 2023 at 09:36 AM
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p.287 #7 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Goldcrest I love these tiny birds , tricky little buggers to get a shot of

LTK06175 by leon kirkbride, on Flickr



Nov 12, 2023 at 01:02 PM
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p.287 #8 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Daran wrote:
Somewhat ridiculous.

It depends on how bad the TC turns out to be on that lens compared to the 200-600G, which is almost 4x cheaper, while only 20% heavier (but much lighter than the 600GM). The zooms IQ is similar to a 600GM with TC1.4 attached: slightly better in the center, significantly worse towards the edges. This is when comparing per pixel, the subject is obviously much smaller than the 840mm of the prime with TC1.4. The prime with the TC2.0 is significantly worse in the center.

So, unless the 300GM is *much* better than the 600GM in terms of TCs, it
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Mark Galer's 300mm f/2.8 video shows (very limited number of images) that the 300 + 2x tele is sharper and seemed to have better bokeh. He indicated though that AF speed takes a hit but did not really speak to whether it was comparable. He was not really doing an exhaustive head-to-head comparison of those two lenses and instead was comparing many (too many to be useful?) lenses. He is usually a bit more focused [bad pun] in his reviews.

Jim




Nov 12, 2023 at 01:57 PM
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p.287 #9 · Sony A1 Image Thread


a1 + 70-200 GM ii - Sunset on I-44
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RwpDRWc/0/2042d0e5/X4/i-RwpDRWc-X4.jpg

Taking a break from modeling for me (testing my Sigma 105)
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wW5B6bW/0/6305088f/X4/i-wW5B6bW-X4.jpg

Edited on Nov 13, 2023 at 01:05 PM · View previous versions



Nov 12, 2023 at 10:08 PM
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p.287 #10 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Found some older, unprocessed shots while trying to decide what to include in my 2024 birds & wildlife calendar. None of these made the cut.


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/5000 500


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/3200 500


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/2500 1000


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/6400 500


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/6400 500

Seems like shots that are sharp in flickr don't look very sharp when posted downsized here



Nov 13, 2023 at 12:58 AM
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p.287 #11 · Sony A1 Image Thread


I have had that problem elsewhere but was told I was imagining things. I'll have to look and compare here, though most of mine are from Smugmug.


Nov 13, 2023 at 05:26 AM
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p.287 #12 · Sony A1 Image Thread


TGPhotography wrote:
Seems like shots that are sharp in flickr don't look very sharp when posted downsized here

I noticed that some soft images here were delivered as HEIF, even though the poster had originally uploaded a JPEG. No idea which server was to blame for re-encoding them. As a workaround I disabled HEIF in my browser (Firefox) which fixed a lot of the softness in this forum. Drawback is that some other websites don't like HEIF being disabled...



Nov 13, 2023 at 05:45 AM
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p.287 #13 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Went to Conowingo this afternoon, very little activities, whatever they did, it was 400-500 yards away, just ridiculous. We need 2000mm lens and 100 MP cameras for Conowingo these days. Most of these shots were heavily cropped, maybe 90% of the frame was thrown away..

What do you guys think the thingy in the fish's mouth was in the first picture? Could it be the swim bladder because the eagle crabbed the fish so hard?




  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    320 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    500 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    1250 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    500 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    320 ISO    -1.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    640 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    500 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/4000s    500 ISO    0.0 EV  



Edited on Nov 13, 2023 at 10:17 PM · View previous versions



Nov 13, 2023 at 08:29 PM
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Late evening shot.
Sony A1 + 600mm f/4 by hatch1921, on Flickr



Nov 13, 2023 at 08:30 PM
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p.287 #15 · Sony A1 Image Thread


I've never been to Conowingo, but given the distances, it may be better for video? 600GM + 2x TC + 1.2 crop in video?


Nov 13, 2023 at 08:31 PM
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p.287 #16 · Sony A1 Image Thread


TGPhotography wrote:
Found some older, unprocessed shots while trying to decide what to include in my 2024 birds & wildlife calendar. None of these made the cut.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53328728564_abe81fcd6c_h.jpg
Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/5000 500

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53328846820_b8afa7f46e_h.jpg
Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/3200 500

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53327743917_c47298832f_h.jpg
Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/2500 1000

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53328838643_5a473af5cb_h.jpg
Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/6400 500

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53328958949_52b054c2a3_h.jpg
Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/6400 500

Seems like shots that are sharp in flickr don't look very sharp when posted downsized here


I noticed too recently. I don't link my shots from flickr, I upload them directly, they look like shxt here.




Nov 13, 2023 at 09:03 PM
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p.287 #17 · Sony A1 Image Thread


^ Thanks for the tips on upload from everyone. I may experiment. I post full resolution on flickr, but link the version at 1600 pixels on the long end to display here.

Douglas L wrote:
Went to Conowingo this afternoon, very little activities, whatever they did, it was 400-500 yards away, just ridiculous. We need 2000mm lens and 100 MP cameras for Conowingo these days. Most of these shots were heavily cropped, maybe 90% of the frame was thrown away..

What do you guys think the thingy in the fish's mouth was in the first picture? Could it be the swim bladder because the eagle crabbed the fish so hard?


Dang, 400-500 yards? I've noticed a lot of video from youtube is from really far out. Easier to keep the subject in the frame and easier to stabilize the footage in post without clipping wings.

Definitely a swim bladder on that first shot. Could be from getting squeezed by the eagle. More likely is it got pulled into a deep intake upstream from the dam and shot out at the surface downstream of the dam. Sudden, uncontrolled change in depth and it will blow out the swim bladder. Then the eagle just picks up the helpless fish on the surface since it can't dive back down.







Nov 13, 2023 at 09:16 PM
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p.287 #18 · Sony A1 Image Thread


Fuzzy and cute


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter
ƒ/5.6 840.0 mm 1/500 500


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/640 500


Sony ILCE-1
FE 600mm F4 GM OSS
ƒ/4.0 600.0 mm 1/640 500



Nov 13, 2023 at 09:22 PM
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p.287 #19 · Sony A1 Image Thread


American Kestrel




  ILCE-1    Sony FE 200–600 mm F5.6–6.3 G OSS (SEL200600G) + 1.4X Teleconverter (SEL14TC) lens    840mm    f/9.0    1/3200s    1000 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    Sony FE 200–600 mm F5.6–6.3 G OSS (SEL200600G) + 1.4X Teleconverter (SEL14TC) lens    840mm    f/9.0    1/3200s    640 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-1    Sony FE 200–600 mm F5.6–6.3 G OSS (SEL200600G) + 1.4X Teleconverter (SEL14TC) lens    840mm    f/9.0    1/3200s    1000 ISO    0.0 EV  




Nov 13, 2023 at 09:40 PM
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p.287 #20 · Sony A1 Image Thread


berimbolo wrote:
I've never been to Conowingo, but given the distances, it may be better for video? 600GM + 2x TC + 1.2 crop in video?


I no longer have a 2X TC. I had not used it for wildlife when I had it, too hard to find the target in the finder. I used it to shoot the moon a few times.

To give you an idea how far the eagle were from where I stood, these are some of the uncropped images, some were already taken in APS-D mode.




taken in APS-C mode

  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    500 ISO    -1.0 EV  






taken in APS-C mode

  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    640 ISO    0.0 EV  






taken in APS-C mode

  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    500 ISO    0.0 EV  






taken in full frame mode

  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    320 ISO    -1.0 EV  






taken in full frame mode

  ILCE-1    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter lens    840mm    f/5.6    1/3200s    500 ISO    -1.0 EV  



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