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Sigma 35mm f/2 DG DN Contemporary Review

  
 
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Ayoul wrote:
Nice comparison. The 20 1.8 in APS-C mode seems indeed a bit smoother in the bokeh, and has less Loca.

I could try the af-c of the Sigma 35 on a moving subject yesterday, on a guest in my garden which likes to visit us sometimes.

https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2021/04/08/210408110939896632.jpg

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Of course, she didn't move very fast but all cat owners know the tendancy of this little fur balls to get immediately very, very close every time you point a camera at them (you know, whith this look in the eyes which means : "if I was 80 pounds heavier I would eat you"). A9, af-c,
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So, what's your overall impression of tracking in AF-C?
There is an ongoing debate here that all Sigma stepper motors are bad (significantly worse than Sony native lenses) at tracking (so the whole I series).
There were also people returning the lens because it coulnd't keep up with their kids. On the other hand, when I had it, I didn't notice any major AF slowness (and managed to take snaps of my kids with a similar success rate as Sony lenses), but I didn't really test tracking (e.g. multiple shots of something coming towards the camera)...



Apr 08, 2021 at 04:22 AM
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So this is a far cry from Fred's tests, but I did a quick tripod test between the i35 and he 20G. I had to adjust the exposure slightly to make them look the same, and the light was a bit variable which may have created some differences. I shot the 20 in APS-C mode at 1.8, and the 35 at 2.8. Anyway, this is for anyone who might find it useful:


Nice! Just as expected. Not much difference. Thanks!



Apr 08, 2021 at 05:50 AM
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j4nu wrote:
So, what's your overall impression of tracking in AF-C?
There is an ongoing debate here that all Sigma stepper motors are bad (significantly worse than Sony native lenses) at tracking (so the whole I series).
There were also people returning the lens because it coulnd't keep up with their kids. On the other hand, when I had it, I didn't notice any major AF slowness (and managed to take snaps of my kids with a similar success rate as Sony lenses), but I didn't really test tracking (e.g. multiple shots of something coming towards the camera)...


Honnestly, I think that the af-c looks good enough. I've been pleasantly surprised by the AF speed, accuracy and silence of the Sigma 35. It may be slightly slower than the Samyang(s) that I returned for a tilted focal plane, but it's perfectly usable. Honnestly not significantly worse than my Zony 35 1.4. (When I bought it a few years ago, despite its flaws, I was impressed by the speed and silence of its AF).

It may just be a tad less accurate at short distance when taking still subjects, but it may just be my imagination.

But before I took the picutres of this cat, I never took any challenging subject moving toward me with it. I may have been lucky but it did the job very well.

Precision : 99% of the time I use af-c with small flexible spot, in fact like a good old DSLR, without real time tracking. I think that it hurts a little bit the accuracy of AF sometimes. I turn eye/face af on or off depending on the situation. It can hurts accuracy as well sometimes. In dim light and backlight, face AF looks sometimes more like a hair-around-the-face AF than anything else...

EDIT : you know what, she came back while I was writing. I've tried tracking again, this time with animal eye-af and real time tracking. The weather is good and there is plenty of light (3 pm here in France), so, why not. In this good light it works well, very well, even at short distance where it starts to be more challenging.

3 pictures and a crop :







The 2 first pictures are perfectly focused on the eye. Trust me on this. The third one, I'm not sure. I give you the 100% crop :



The fur above the eye is not sharp, which is not surprising given the DOF at this distance. The eye itself, I don't know, I had to raise the exposure on it to see something, but it still looks decent to me. But it t has to be THIS close for the AF to be challenged. So, my guess is that for slow moving subjects at close distance (let's say a kid playing gently inside the house with a proper light), it's good.

However, I don't know how it behaves for fast moving subjects at greater distance, or in really dim light (the same kid jumping around your swimming pool at nightfall could be another story, for instance).

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Apr 08, 2021 at 07:38 AM
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Ayoul wrote:
Honnestly, I think that the af-c looks good enough. I've been pleasantly surprised by the AF speed, accuracy and silence of the Sigma 35. It may be slightly slower than the Samyang(s) that I returned for a tilted focal plane, but it's perfectly usable. Honnestly not significantly worse than my Zony 35 1.4. (When I bought it a few years ago, despite its flaws, I was impressed by the speed and silence of its AF).

It may just be a tad less accurate at short distance when taking still subjects, but it may just be my imagination.

But before I took the
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Thanks! That mostly matches my impression from the brief time I had with 35i.



Apr 08, 2021 at 08:07 AM
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Enjoying this lens. A few from work.
































Apr 08, 2021 at 09:28 AM
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Enjoying this lens. A few from work.


Some very nice textures here, with a nice soft light, I like them a lot.



Apr 08, 2021 at 01:03 PM
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I will start a new Voigtlander 35/2 APO review soon and compare it to the Sigma 35/2 DG DN. I can already say they are close in resolution while the Sigma's rendering is smoother in comparison.


Apr 08, 2021 at 05:28 PM
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I was planning on selling the i35 when the 35GM arrives, which I pre-ordered back in January. Now, after getting an A7c to replace my A7III (I am transitioning now from A6400/A7III to A7C/A7RIII or IV, have not yet decided on the latter) and seeing Fred's test, I am not so sure anymore. Coming from the original NEX series, I am a big fan of small and light kits. The A7C with the Sigma 35/2 DG DN is perfect in that respect. In addition, it handles both close-up (rendering) and landscapes really well, and its sunstar is nicer to my eyes to that of the GM (from what I have seen). I think I'll wait for the GM to arrive and then make a full comparison for myself, including handling on the A7C to see what is best for me.

In addition, my whole photography adventure got a new turn as I recently bought a printer (Canon PROGRAF 1000) and starting selling/exhibiting some prints in a small downtown gallery/shop, which I rented primarily as a non-home home-office for my day job. Suddenly the "quest for most bokeh" is not a driver in my photography anymore, all the images I printed and framed are tack-sharp corner to corner So I might not need the 1.4 of the GM. We will see...



Apr 09, 2021 at 04:38 AM
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Flaxx74 wrote:
I was planning on selling the i35 when the 35GM arrives, which I pre-ordered back in January. Now, after getting an A7c to replace my A7III (I am transitioning now from A6400/A7III to A7C/A7RIII or IV, have not yet decided on the latter) and seeing Fred's test, I am not so sure anymore. Coming from the original NEX series, I am a big fan of small and light kits. The A7C with the Sigma 35/2 DG DN is perfect in that respect. In addition, it handles both close-up (rendering) and landscapes really well, and its sunstar is nicer to my
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Important to differentiate between the best bokeh (quality) and the most bokeh (quantity).

I'd love to have the bestest and the mostest in one lens but if forced to choose I'll take the best over the most.

Rather shoot an f/2 with a lovely OOF rendering than a harsh 1.4.




Apr 09, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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mjk115 wrote:
Enjoying this lens. A few from work.


These are awesome! What is your job?



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I edited my message just after posting and changed exactly that wording I had "best" in it, but replaced it by "most".

Fully agree with your comment, that is why I have as well the Sigma 45 F2.8.

DaveFP wrote:
Important to differentiate between the best bokeh (quality) and the most bokeh (quantity).

I'd love to have the bestest and the mostest in one lens but if forced to choose I'll take the best over the most.

Rather shoot an f/2 with a lovely OOF rendering than a harsh 1.4.






Apr 09, 2021 at 10:48 AM
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p.14 #12 · Sigma 35mm f/2 DG DN Contemporary Review


So many lens options in 35mm and considered 40mm as well but finally ordered this Sigma 35 for use with my A7C.




Apr 09, 2021 at 12:34 PM
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p.14 #13 · Sigma 35mm f/2 DG DN Contemporary Review


smpetty wrote:
These are awesome! What is your job?


Thanks smpetty. I run a small secondary metal refinery with my brother. I do all the melting. My grandfather started the business back in '54 and some things haven't changed since then. We tend to use things until they're done, and then we use them some more. Makes for a lot of interesting textures and colors though. Thanks again,
Mike



Apr 09, 2021 at 01:32 PM
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p.14 #14 · Sigma 35mm f/2 DG DN Contemporary Review


Convincing images... I did not expect to be interested in this lens but the images speak for themselves. I hope Sigma comes up with a 28mm version too

mjk115 wrote:
Enjoying this lens. A few from work.




Apr 09, 2021 at 01:56 PM
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p.14 #15 · Sigma 35mm f/2 DG DN Contemporary Review


DSC01105 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

DSC01090 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

DSC01074-Edit by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr



Apr 10, 2021 at 09:36 PM
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Mystik wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51107753207_2d02566990_h.jpgDSC01105 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51108228813_5a38b4c2b1_h.jpgDSC01090 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51108327156_ae6a35b13b_h.jpgDSC01074-Edit by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr


Beautiful Carlo.



Apr 10, 2021 at 09:45 PM
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darbo wrote:
Beautiful Carlo.


Thanks David!



Apr 11, 2021 at 07:55 AM
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Mystik wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51107753207_2d02566990_h.jpgDSC01105 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51108228813_5a38b4c2b1_h.jpgDSC01090 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51108327156_ae6a35b13b_h.jpgDSC01074-Edit by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr


More amazing images, Carlo. Thanks!

Just curious - are you sticking with the 35i and/or considering the 35 GM? Your images alone have likely sold quite a few of the 35i lenses.

Scott



Apr 11, 2021 at 10:19 AM
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smpetty wrote:
More amazing images, Carlo. Thanks!

Just curious - are you sticking with the 35i and/or considering the 35 GM? Your images alone have likely sold quite a few of the 35i lenses.

Scott


Thanks Scott!

I do have the GM on pre order, but more to see how it stacks up against against the Bigma for weddings and posed portrait sessions.

The 35i is a keeper for me as a legitimately compact 35. Fun to shoot with, easy to carry, and delivers on the IQ and rendering



Apr 11, 2021 at 11:31 AM
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p.14 #20 · Sigma 35mm f/2 DG DN Contemporary Review


35 f1.4 GM size comparison. We already know the 35 F2 delivers in terms of IQ/output. If people are drawn to the GM because it is small, then the Sigma makes a compelling case as an alternative:

DSC09973-2 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr



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