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p.36 #1 · Hi Sydney


Well, Smelly, I think you and 100-400 did a fair job in capturing the Princess. The light is harsh the sun is high in the sky, there isn't much you can do

Some funny croppings may help an image



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:32 AM
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p.36 #2 · Hi Sydney


On the topic of sharpening, how much post-processing do you guys do?

I don't like to over-sharpen my pictures if I dont have to, but recently I found that my usual technique in resizing and sharpening an image becomes a bit unnatural.

For web posting, if exposure and focus are right, I usually do a bit of sharpening. depending on an image, my sharpening by USM may be up to 130-150%, then try to fade it to look natural. I would then resize an image to something like 640x480, then compress it to level 6 jpeg on PS. Is that what you people do?

I found that recently some of my photos became over-compressed or oversharpened... just not very happy with them when I view them on pbase.



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:37 AM
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p.36 #3 · Hi Sydney


SmellyTofu wrote:
I can't believe how many silly people use the camera phones to take photos. It's not like you can get any decent quality out of them. Maybe couldn't even work out who is who unless someone told you. My gf has a pic of Princess Mary about the same distance the above pic was to her. I could make it out that it was her but that was about it. Maybe I am a snob as well.


Similarly in a way, i always see people who wants to illuminate the entire sydney harbour with their flash on their digicam! :P



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:39 AM
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p.36 #4 · Hi Sydney


Zane Yau wrote:
Well, Smelly, I think you and 100-400 did a fair job in capturing the Princess. The light is harsh the sun is high in the sky, there isn't much you can do

Some funny croppings may help an image


I agree, some of your shots are better smelly. Maybe u should have summitted yours to smh.



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:40 AM
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p.36 #5 · Hi Sydney


rwwlee wrote:
I agree, some of your shots are better smelly. Maybe u should have summitted yours to smh.



Well, worst of all, can't ask Princess to pose for you!!



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:41 AM
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p.36 #6 · Hi Sydney


Richard

When are you leaving for the trip?



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:42 AM
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p.36 #7 · Hi Sydney


Zane Yau wrote:
On the topic of sharpening, how much post-processing do you guys do?



I'm very new to photography, when i first started, i did no post-processing at all to any photos, not even cropping, i guess that helped me frame my shots better. With shooting raw, i'll do the basic stuff that camera raw allows you to do. I tend to leave the sharpening at 25 in camera raw, but maybe i should set this back to 0 and do it in PS.

When i do it in PS using the USM, i use the find edge filter and mask to only USM the edges where you want the sharpeness to be. Still have a lot to learn in PS.



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:48 AM
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p.36 #8 · Hi Sydney


Zane Yau wrote:
Richard

When are you leaving for the trip?


Going to perth in less than 2 weeks, presenting in a conference. Coming back to sydney before leaving for hk the following day. Tight schedule. Hope there is no delay on the return perth trip!



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:52 AM
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p.36 #9 · Hi Sydney


Thanks for the info, richard. Can you elaborate on the 'find edge filter' and masking for USM?

ok, have a nice trip



Mar 06, 2005 at 06:58 AM
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p.36 #10 · Hi Sydney


Steps:

Make a new layer
choose filter/stylize/find edges
hue/saturation and change saturation to -100
image/adjust/threshold to change how much edge to include
image/adjust/invert
filter/blur/gaussian blur (set the level to 2 to add blurring to the edges) optional
select/all
edit/copy
click channel tab
create new channel (alpha channel will appear)
edit/paste
go back to layer tab and show only the original image
select/load selection/ make sure channel is alpha 1
(you should now see there is a selection of the edges of the imagine)
now you can apply your USM to the selection
use Control-H to hide the selection

let me know if it's not making sense or if i missed a step!



Mar 06, 2005 at 07:13 AM
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p.36 #11 · Hi Sydney


Here's a version of the above PS steps.

before


after


This way, the facial features remain blurry, the bride would be happier! :P

Edited by rwwlee on Mar 07, 2005 at 05:39 PM GMT



Mar 06, 2005 at 07:20 AM
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p.36 #12 · Hi Sydney


SmellyTofu wrote:
OK, here are some of the better ones..

Very nice shots there !



Mar 06, 2005 at 07:25 AM
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p.36 #13 · Hi Sydney


Richard,
That sounds a lot like Fred's Intellisharpen (v1) action, which is really all I use. Much better than usm on the whole image esp on a film scan imho
James



Mar 06, 2005 at 08:20 AM
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p.36 #14 · Hi Sydney


Here are a couple of mine from the Mardi Gras:

Firstly, some HP5+ fresh from the soup:

Whatever it takes to see the parade
http://deepdark.net/files/fm/outting-mardi_gras/img779.jpg

Representation from one of Darlinghurst's more colourful establishments
http://deepdark.net/files/fm/outting-mardi_gras/img778.jpg

http://deepdark.net/files/fm/outting-mardi_gras/img777.jpg

I made some friends in the crowd, who offered me some white wine they were drinking from the bladder of a cask, then they offered to pose. Wish you were there!
http://deepdark.net/files/fm/outting-mardi_gras/img796.jpg

Adam will come around in a day or so to see put his film (HP5+ and TMZ) in the soup, and to find out once and for all if that Mamiya actually works!

PS: I'm trying a brown-tone action for b&w scans. What do you reckon, is it any good?



Mar 06, 2005 at 08:39 AM
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p.36 #15 · Hi Sydney


First one from my D30:

http://deepdark.net/files/fm/outting-mardi_gras/CRW_4889.jpg

I'm in love I feel a Chasing Amy moment coming on...



Mar 06, 2005 at 08:43 AM
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p.36 #16 · Hi Sydney


yep. I'd agree that brownish duotones have more "feel" than straight b&w.

looks like you had fun after I bailed. nice work!



Mar 06, 2005 at 08:53 AM
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p.36 #17 · Hi Sydney


Zane Yau wrote:
Well, worst of all, can't ask Princess to pose for you!!


Everyone was shouting "Mary Mary Mary".... and only once these silly teenagers were shouting "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi"...... errr.. 5 years too late.

It was too hard to barge onto the street and people pointing their tiny cameras in the air.. when they were leaving, it was point and pray time. I need one of those eyepieces but pointing downwards so I can at least see what I am pointing at. The channel 9 guy taking the shots was standing next to me then and it was so easy for him though that camera must have been a good 10kg and my arms are pretty sore from it already. In the end, I missed all those shots and it was only when I could see what I was shooting that I got 5 shots of them that were half decent.

Edited by SmellyTofu on Mar 07, 2005 at 07:41 AM GMT



Mar 06, 2005 at 04:35 PM
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p.36 #18 · Hi Sydney


rwwlee wrote:
Here's a version of the above PS steps.

before
{PICTURE}

after
{PICTURE}

This way, the facial features remain blurry, the bride would be happier! :P


Looks a bit too oversharpened on screen though. Especially points at the pink flowers, the frames of the glasses... just stands out a lot as a result of oversharpening.

I do all my sharpening on the camera (setting 1 on the 10D) and 150% on C1 Pro (which doesn't do much anyway). That's all I do so it's generally not too sharp and not too soft. I'll only sharpen again in the JPG processing stage if the picture isn't focus perfect in the first place.



Mar 06, 2005 at 04:36 PM
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p.36 #19 · Hi Sydney


Thanks Richard for those steps...looks like I got a lot of homework to do. I am too lazy to read my books on PS.




Mar 06, 2005 at 05:48 PM
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p.36 #20 · Hi Sydney


James, nice capture there...but I don't really like that tone...just doesnt work for me

I think you did a great job for the Incredible girl pic, really really nice skin tone!!



Mar 06, 2005 at 05:51 PM
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