$2 for an A3 print seems unreasonably cheap. From my prints, I'd be thinking a full bleed colour print would be in the vicinity of $10+. A3+ should be $15+ as there is considerably more area in each of these prints. This would vary if using glossy paper as the ink consumption is much higher. On the Canon lineup, Photo Paper Pro (top paper - PP-101) uses FAR more ink than either semi-gloss (SG-101) or Glossy Paper (PR-101). If I use Canon's Matt Photo Paper - hardly any ink is used. Their guess-timation for cartridge life may well be true for plain paper in normal rez, not photo and not glossy papers.
ok, the R210 arrived last night, we did two test prints, one with a prepared PSed file from my desktop, one straight out of 20D (not Pictbridge or anything, just not PS-manipulated) from my laptop. Both are nice, photo quality etc etc
But it leads to another problem...my monitors!! It seems that my laptop monitor is too bright compared with the print and my desktop is too dull, the print is a lot more colourful....any suggestions on what I should do?
gregau wrote:
$2 for an A3 print seems unreasonably cheap. From my prints, I'd be thinking a full bleed colour print would be in the vicinity of $10+. A3+ should be $15+...
Greg, that's a lot of money for an A3 or + print. Paper Pro is like $8 per A3 sheet right? Take it to a lab I would say...but of course you would have the control over output...
Zane, I have found it easiest to calibrate the monitor from the print using Adobe Gamma or similar. You could pay a whole lot to use one of those monitor calibrating devices but I have matched my 2 different LCD monitors to closely resemble the finished print. I suggest leaving the prints to dry at least 1 day before trying to match the monitor to the print. Additionally, the print will have far wider gammut than the monitor will handle - so don't try to over-correct your monitor to display sunset reds or supersaturated rainforest fern greens because then skin tones will not match!!!! Have a lot of fun, I used a lot of ink and paper trying to get my 2 to match!
gregau wrote:
This would vary if using glossy paper as the ink consumption is much higher. On the Canon lineup, Photo Paper Pro (top paper - PP-101) uses FAR more ink than either semi-gloss (SG-101) or Glossy Paper (PR-101). If I use Canon's Matt Photo Paper - hardly any ink is used. Their guess-timation for cartridge life may well be true for plain paper in normal rez, not photo and not glossy papers.
Some interesting data on ink coverage of printers
Understanding Epson's Ink Consumption Specs: Epson rates most of their desktop inkjet printers based on a 5% coverage for each ink color, including the black ink
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Real Life Ink Coverage: Photographic images and full color illustrations typically consume a much greater amount of ink because the ink coverage for these images is also much higher. For instance, the ink coverages for this PhotoDisc test image are 32% for the cyan, 36% for the magenta, 39% for the yellow and 22% for the black. With an average of 35.7% coverage for each color (CMY), that's more than 7 times greater ink coverage for the three colors and more than 4 times greater ink coverage for the black (compared to the Epson standard 5% coverage for each color)! Images of people consume a lot of ink. That's because even fair-complexion flesh tones can average over 50% yellow and over 50% magenta coverage.
The four "people" images at the bottom of the PhotoDisc test target have an average coverage of over 34% per color (CMY), despite less cyan coverage (27%) and the white background behind their heads.
Zane Yau wrote:
wow, thanks for all those info, Greg and Chris
Greg, could you elaborate on how to calibrate using Adobe Gamma
Is this something within the PS?
Zane the Adobe Gamma is a seperate programme that should install when you install PS assuming that you installed all options. It should install itself into the control panel of you system, ie Start/controlpanel/Adobe Gamma
Here is a step by step tutorial http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques/viewtechnique.cfm?recid=12
It seems it does not matter how much you know you always seem to need to learn something new.
Hey, right, I've checked the control panel and yes it's there. I will try to calibrate it with my prints
The printer is surprisingly good, prints surprisingly good photo quality prints at its surprisingly low price, with no bands, it's quite fast - about 40s for 4R print
I've done some B&W text print, and it's like bubble jet quality and slow...
Edited by Zane Yau on Jun 17, 2005 at 09:52 PM GMT
hydrotoast wrote:
Zane the Adobe Gamma is a seperate programme that should install when you install PS assuming that you installed all options. It should install itself into the control panel of you system, ie Start/controlpanel/Adobe Gamma
Here is a step by step tutorial http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques/viewtechnique.cfm?recid=12
It seems it does not matter how much you know you always seem to need to learn something new.
Thanks Chris
Thanks for the link...
Yes, I am starting to learn from scratch here...you obviously can give me some guidance...
I will check out the Gamma thing at the control panel tonight when I get home
