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Takira71A
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liggy wrote:
... I prefer the Angry one to Lloyd.




Luis Cunha wrote:
... You may already need another dose of "floobydust".-D


Today, I learned all about FujiFilm "floobydust".


“Knowledge is when you learn something new every day."
~~ Ralph Waldo Emerson. ~~



Oct 04, 2020 at 10:42 PM
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ShootPDX wrote:
It's just more information than I need. I'm sure some people need the level of detail that the author goes into when describing the systems/processes he writes about, but I don't. It's very technical and not worth my time. Of course YMMV.

Note: It's a great source if you need that much information. I just do not.


Understood .-) Thanks for your feedback.



Oct 05, 2020 at 08:55 AM
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All we need is "floobydust" .-D


Oct 05, 2020 at 08:56 AM
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I found diglloyd a priceless source of information for FF lenses (TS, Zeiss, native, DSLR, mirrorless, all that stuff). It saved me from a couple of very expensive mistakes and helped me work with the strengths and weaknesses of some of my gear (my own testing confirmed most of his findings).
For Fuji GF - not as much. He works (exclusively) with rented medium format gear, as such his reviews seem a bit rushed and his mastery of GFX gear is not really up to snuff, in some cases (I couldn't reproduce his findings on focus stacking issues with the GFX 100, once the stacking interval was correctly setup, and after a while a lot of those paragraphs were retracted). I didn't experience any of his issues with QC problems on the GF primes, but the decentering & asymmetry of the 32-64 was indeed confirmed in my testing on 3 different samples of that lens, to varying degrees, so, yes in retrospective, had I not paid attention to his reviews I may have not been very thorough in checking the lens and ultimately returning the zoom.
Also, he was struggling with aliasing artefacts for various Sony sensors (including Fuji medium format) which ultimately turned out to be related to his postproduction workflow and 1 Lightroom feature he was eagerly promoting.
So, to sum up: he used to be a gold standard in lens / gear testing. Currently, while his content still has real value, it's not as quality consistent as it used to be. I would still recommend him, but in some cases, critical assessment is needed.

Later edit: sometimes he would have important insights that no other internet review / test would be able to provide (excellent lenses turning out to be duds under various conditions, or lenses that were not very valued by reviewers turning out to be really useful under various other conditions). Again, even if I can no longer take his word without hesitation, the insights he gives for testing various aspects of lens / camera performance are still valuable, even if it is just to guide my own testing. I can focus on potentially problematic areas, already identified by him, and guide my own working or purchase decision-making process from there. Normally he is digging for sh.t, so the good news is: 1. if he hasn't found any, chances are you're good to go 2. if he has found something, it's generally a good direction to look for and evaluate the real extent and impact on your work of the problem (ignoring his findings can be a costly decision, as already stated)



Oct 07, 2020 at 06:51 AM
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I have bought/sold lot of lenses, almost all Canon L glass upto 500mm f4. Never had any issues. Then almost all Fuji XF lenses, except the 200mm f2. No issues there. Now have GF lenses, except the 250mm f4. no issues again. Photography is hobby for me. Unless I was testing lenses for work, why do I need to know the nitty gritty details. GFX is like any other camera out there. If you shot Fuji XF, it is exactly the same, just a bit slower. Only time I had to research was when trying TS-E for the first time as information is not readily available about those lenses. Rest these forums are better for the practical advice.


Oct 07, 2020 at 11:38 AM
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Well, if I pay the premium for GF lenses I am interested to get something little extra for my money. Thus, yes please for detailed reviews. And usually the freebies are either done by some paid ambassadors or half-blind hippies. Or, by Dpreview style Amazon dealers.

Kasson runs excellent review blog for free. Thanks for that, Jim.



Oct 07, 2020 at 11:55 AM
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Lloyd's paid reviews for Zeiss lenses are invaluable, and they are pretty good for Canon RF, though not near as thorough. But for medium format, you can get his take from his blog posts: use the GFX 100 and shoot the GF 50


Oct 07, 2020 at 08:02 PM
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MJKoski wrote:
Well, if I pay the premium for GF lenses I am interested to get something little extra for my money. Thus, yes please for detailed reviews. And usually the freebies are either done by some paid ambassadors or half-blind hippies. Or, by Dpreview style Amazon dealers.

Kasson runs excellent review blog for free. Thanks for that, Jim.


Yes, one more "Kudos" for Jim Kasson's review blog, from me also!



Oct 08, 2020 at 03:39 AM
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Luis Cunha wrote:
Dear friends,
has anyone here in the group subscribed to this medium format package to learn about the behavior of the GFX system and GF lenses in order to make the best purchases?

https://diglloyd.com/idx-mf.html

The package costs $120.00 per year and during this period new content is being added. Content that can only be accessed via browser. Lloyd is a competent, demanding and serious photographer. Many years ago I subscribed to the Zeiss package.
Your opinions will be highly appreciated. Thank you.


That's a lot of money just to read Lloyd's hysterical rants about catastrophic, deal-breaking problems with the equipment (frequently the result of him not being able to figure out how to operate it - so much for being a "competent, demanding and serious photographer) or his emails begging for money so he can buy a new Porsche or Mercedes...

But that's just my opinion (as a former subscriber)... but it might be worthwhile entertainment for some, but you can get the same level of competence for free at Ken Rockwell's site.



Oct 12, 2020 at 11:38 AM
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That's a lot of money just to read Lloyd's hysterical rants about catastrophic, deal-breaking problems with the equipment (frequently the result of him not being able to figure out how to operate it - so much for being a "competent, demanding and serious photographer) or his emails begging for money so he can buy a new Porsche or Mercedes...

But that's just my opinion (as a former subscriber)... but it might be worthwhile entertainment for some, but you can get the same level of competence for free at Ken Rockwell's site.


Sorry, but if Ken Rockwell, a guy that shoots and reviews based on OOC jpgs, is your standard ... oh well, all I can say is no comment



Oct 13, 2020 at 10:05 AM
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nazdravanul wrote:
Sorry, but if Ken Rockwell, a guy that shoots and reviews based on OOC jpgs, is your standard ... oh well, all I can say is no comment


That was my point... Lloyd, much like Ken, seems to be more interested in entertainment, drama, and unabashed pleas for cash to support a lavish lifestyle.




Oct 13, 2020 at 10:38 AM
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molson wrote:
That was my point... Lloyd, much like Ken, seems to be more interested in entertainment, drama, and unabashed pleas for cash to support a lavish lifestyle.



Ok, I see where you are going with this. Anyway, Diglloyd at his worst is no Ken Rockwell. Drama queen as he may have become, his reviews still have value and they are on another level in terms of technical background and work volume behind them, compared to Ken. Yes Diglloyd's ego and attitude is all over the place and sometimes he is ranting - and when he does that on my time and dime, it's a problem. Again, I still find value in his work, but it's no longer the 100% professional, thorough, well-balanced diglloyd from say ... 10 years ago. I would not dismiss him, completely, though. Far from it.



Oct 14, 2020 at 06:01 AM
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I agree. Too much focus on Covid-19 lately. But still, I find the publications informative. I look for certain details and if the article contains it, it's all good IMHO. Drama just seems to be the universal standard these days. When technology stalls enough, issues become the only news.


Oct 14, 2020 at 06:17 AM
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Luis Cunha wrote:
Thanks Takira71A.
Some say good things; some say bad things, about Ken.
:-)


Some may not like his personality or his over the top arrogance. But I think few would disagree that he has a lot of camera knowledge, especially regarding the GFX system and his free resources are excellent.

I don’t think there’s any reason to pay 120 for access to a website, when Ken Wheeler and Jim Kasson’s information is completely free.



Oct 14, 2020 at 07:14 AM
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cdracingzx6r wrote:
Some may not like his personality or his over the top arrogance. But I think few would disagree that he has a lot of camera knowledge, especially regarding the GFX system and his free resources are excellent.

I don’t think there’s any reason to pay 120 for access to a website, when Ken Wheeler and Jim Kasson’s information is completely free.


I would argue that his knowledge on the GFX system, while substantial, is not as thorough, in-depth and refined as his knowledge of 35mm (both DSLR and mirrorless) and alternative gear / lenses.
What is interesting, especially for people coming from 35mm and / or other systems is how the GFX stacks up compared to other 35mm and medium format systems. For this it is worth paying. And for this, I still wish he did a more thorough job with his GF / GFX testing and reviews.
Jim Kasson's information is free and very, very good, with splendid technical testing, Diglloyd's references are a bit wider and his real-world controlled images, while boring from an artistic perspective, give a lot more insights on gear capabilities. I would consider Kasson and Diglloyd complementary, not overlapping.



Oct 14, 2020 at 08:05 AM
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mmm55 wrote:
Lots of good free info here - https://blog.kasson.com/?s=gfx




You seriously find *that* site *helpful* ?!?!?!

All I see is a lot of "how is the sharpness in the corners" and "lets photograph some really boring testchart" images. Blech !

Frankly just browsing flickr for that lens is far, far, far more useful than that. The final image is ALL that really matters. Not testcharts.

Theres much more to image quality than merely sharpness. Especially if you're using medium format, testing for nothing but lens sharpness is completely insane. You spent this much money and dont care about, oh I dunno, color neutrality, color saturation, bokeh, absence of internal reflections, flare, sun stars, etc ?

The very point of medium format is ultimate image quality.

Also, no GFX lens really has an actual issue with sharpness in the first place, so what exactly is the point of searching for minor differences with a magnifier ?

Personally I'm waiting for a GFX that has the phase autofocus but not the outrageously high price tag of the GFX 100, and for a Nikon F to Fujifilm G adapter with full autofocus support, including AF lenses, because manually focusing autofocus lenses from Nikon is no fun and many of my favorite Nikon autofocus lenses are AF, not AF-S.



Oct 14, 2020 at 08:39 AM
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Sauseschritt wrote:


You seriously find *that* site *helpful* ?!?!?!



Yes, I do find *that* site *helpful*, although I certainly understand that it may be too technical and difficult to comprehend for some.




Oct 14, 2020 at 09:07 AM
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My posting wasnt meant as a personal attack on people who want to use that site.

Re-reading it I have a hard time understanding why people would interpret it that way.

Sure I'm vocal about not liking it when people reduce image quality to sharpness, which seems to be all that site cares about. But I cant see why that would be a personal attack.

Even Ken Rockwell already has articles about how lens sharpness is much less important that people seem to believe: https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/lens-sharpness.htm





Oct 15, 2020 at 07:24 AM
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Jim's evaluations cost nothing and they are trustworthy as he actually seems to own the gear. Yes, true, sharpness is not absolutely everything but proper sharpness tests are very valuable to those who cannot afford purchasing 17 lenses to find perhaps three which respond to the needs of a high resolution camera body.

Case in point: Zeiss 135/2. It seems to work really well on GFX. For the price of GF110/2 I can get the Zeiss and GF30/3.5.



Oct 15, 2020 at 11:15 AM
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Sharpness is what I am mostly after when purchasing lenses, but I just look at Flickr and find groups for whatever lens I am researching. I think you can find everything you need to know by just doing that.


Oct 15, 2020 at 12:12 PM
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