In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
p.11 #1In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Hi All. Is the owner of the Sigma 105 and Voigtlander 110 in the room? I wanted to ask if there are differences in macro resolution and distance ?
Nov 10, 2020 at 03:55 AM
p.11 #2In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
By my calculations, and it's early in the AM, but without hoods you get the following working distance:
MFD - Lens Length - Flange Distance = MWD
CV 110mm
35 cm - 15.875 cm - 1.8 cm = 17.325 cm
Sigma 105mm
29.5 cm - 13.56 cm - 1.8 cm = 14.14 cm
In terms of resolution, most of my shooting at macro distances will be flower and insects. But here's a little test I did, mainly looking for LoCA and PF. It's not at MFD, and I just shot both lenses at the same distance from the subject, but hopefully it's worthwhile to gauge the amount of detail captured.
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I tried to match focus as best I could, on Washington's eye.
-Tim
Besar wrote:
Hi All. Is the owner of the Sigma 105 and Voigtlander 110 in the room? I wanted to ask if there are differences in macro resolution and distance ?
Nov 10, 2020 at 11:55 AM
p.11 #3In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Thank you very much for the test and answer 
Sigma seems to be sharper. I think the Laowa 100 would be the sharpest of the three. I need to rethink my purchase. The difference is noticeable, but not big Regards Robert.
Sigma seems to be sharper. I think the Laowa 100 would be the sharpest of the three. I need to rethink my purchase. The difference is noticeable, but not big Regards Robert.Nov 10, 2020 at 01:58 PM
p.11 #4In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Hmm, interesting - Sigma indeed seems a bit sharper, but CV shows cleaner bokeh in my eyes...
Nov 10, 2020 at 02:51 PM
p.11 #5In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Sigma has a little PF around some of the highlights. I almost feel as though I need to retest, to make sure I didn't boff something up when testing the CV.
j4nu wrote:
Hmm, interesting - Sigma indeed seems a bit sharper, but CV shows cleaner bokeh in my eyes...
Nov 10, 2020 at 03:01 PM
p.11 #7In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Finding some uses other than macro continues to impress me with sharpness and coloring. I really am enjoying this lens
Karl
A beautiful day for a ride!
a plenty big crop!
Karl
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A beautiful day for a ride!
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a plenty big crop!
Nov 11, 2020 at 09:17 PM
p.11 #9In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
BruceRH wrote:
Beautiful RV12!
I don't know much about planes but ones like this certainly catch my eye! Gorgeous looker for sure
Karl
Beautiful RV12!
I don't know much about planes but ones like this certainly catch my eye! Gorgeous looker for sure
Karl
Nov 11, 2020 at 09:24 PM
p.11 #10In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Have to agree with you Karl...not a one trick pony.
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Nov 11, 2020 at 09:26 PM
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p.11 #11In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Eye AF and a slower SS IBIS worked to help make this one tack sharp at eyelashes wide open! My first 'great' grandchild this cropped up too.
Karl
this cropped up too.Karl
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Nov 11, 2020 at 09:47 PM
p.11 #12In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Not my usual thing, but here's a focus stack of a beetle that my friend Bob found in his house. This was done using a set of 19 images to stack selected regions of the insect. For reference the beetle's body is about the size of my thumbnail. The second image is a single still shot of the head. Lighting was done using two crossed Lumecubes at ~45 deg. The third image is a 1:1 crop (~1,000 pixels square) to show image detail.
Stacked image of a beetle.
Selected image of the head to show the DOF.
1:1 crop of the head
© DHachey 2020
Stacked image of a beetle.
© DHachey 2020
Selected image of the head to show the DOF.
1:1 crop of the head
Nov 12, 2020 at 01:46 AM
p.11 #13In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
This thing is pretty sharp. Please check the specks of dust on the brush and the hair tips. Yay.
Also I wasn't able to summon Purple Fringing Waldo. The scene was lit with a flash held at about 20 cm in front of the scene. Part of the light went directly to the glass vase and brush, some other went there from an angle, diffused and reflected by the white card of the flash. The reflection below the brush was from the direct light, and that's where I expected Waldo to show up. The area is very clean though.
This was at f/5.6 with default C1 settings, CA corrections disabled, +0.33EV exposure correction. For the full resolution pic, please click on the tinyurl link below:
https://tinyurl.com/y3wofefh
Also I wasn't able to summon Purple Fringing Waldo. The scene was lit with a flash held at about 20 cm in front of the scene. Part of the light went directly to the glass vase and brush, some other went there from an angle, diffused and reflected by the white card of the flash. The reflection below the brush was from the direct light, and that's where I expected Waldo to show up. The area is very clean though.
This was at f/5.6 with default C1 settings, CA corrections disabled, +0.33EV exposure correction. For the full resolution pic, please click on the tinyurl link below:
https://tinyurl.com/y3wofefh
Nov 13, 2020 at 05:52 PM
p.11 #14In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Damn good glass this Sigma. Best macro option for Sony E mount right now.
Nov 13, 2020 at 06:24 PM
p.11 #16In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
1bwana1 wrote:
Damn good glass this Sigma. Best macro option for Sony E mount right now.
We need someone to do a macro shootout . So many options now in ~100mm focal range:
* the new Sigma 105mm f2.8 dg dn (AF)
* the forgotten Tokina 100mm f2.8 (AF)
* the venerable Sony 90mm f2.8 (AF)
* CV 110mm f2.8 (MF)
* Laowa 100mm f2.8 (MF, 2:1)
I'm still wondering if and how I should upgrade from my CV65...
Damn good glass this Sigma. Best macro option for Sony E mount right now.
We need someone to do a macro shootout
. So many options now in ~100mm focal range:* the new Sigma 105mm f2.8 dg dn (AF)
* the forgotten Tokina 100mm f2.8 (AF)
* the venerable Sony 90mm f2.8 (AF)
* CV 110mm f2.8 (MF)
* Laowa 100mm f2.8 (MF, 2:1)
I'm still wondering if and how I should upgrade from my CV65...
Nov 14, 2020 at 11:38 AM
p.11 #17In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
j4nu wrote:
We need someone to do a macro shootout . So many options now in ~100mm focal range:
* the new Sigma 105mm f2.8 dg dn (AF)
* the forgotten Tokina 100mm f2.8 (AF)
* the venerable Sony 90mm f2.8 (AF)
* CV 110mm f2.8 (MF)
* Laowa 100mm f2.8 (MF, 2:1)
I'm still wondering if and how I should upgrade from my CV65...
Below is a comparison between Laowa 100 vs Voigtlander. Laowa with original filter, VC also with filter, but from what I noticed is very sensitive to filter quality. Aperture f / 2.8, crop ~ 40% .Focus on the right eye. If I succeed next week, I'll have a Sigma 105.
And for comparison laowa 25. Aperture f / 2.8, crop ~ 40%, scale 2.5: 1. Fantastic lens...
Edited on Nov 14, 2020 at 01:26 PM · View previous versions
1bwana1 wrote
Damn good glass this Sigma. Best macro option for Sony E mount right now. . So many options now in ~100mm focal range:* the new Sigma 105mm f2.8 dg dn (AF)
* the forgotten Tokina 100mm f2.8 (AF)
* the venerable Sony 90mm f2.8 (AF)
* CV 110mm f2.8 (MF)
* Laowa 100mm f2.8 (MF, 2:1)
I'm still wondering if and how I should upgrade from my CV65...
Below is a comparison between Laowa 100 vs Voigtlander. Laowa with original filter, VC also with filter, but from what I noticed is very sensitive to filter quality. Aperture f / 2.8, crop ~ 40% .Focus on the right eye. If I succeed next week, I'll have a Sigma 105.
And for comparison laowa 25. Aperture f / 2.8, crop ~ 40%, scale 2.5: 1. Fantastic lens...
Edited on Nov 14, 2020 at 01:26 PM · View previous versions
Nov 14, 2020 at 01:13 PM
p.11 #18In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
I don't think the CV 65 is primarily a macro that would be used in the same circumstance as the Sigma macro. It is a MF lens that is only 1:2 instead of 1:1. It is a wonderful general purpose lens, with more character rich rendering. I am still looking to add the CV 65 to my kit one day even when I own the Sigma 105.
I am not the one to do the shootout. testing lenses in lab conditions is not my way of having fun with photography.
But Marc Alhadeff At Sony Alpha Blog who is qualified/experienced with lens testing has tested each of the lenses on your list. He has a comparison table of all the competitive ones except the Tokina which is not in the same league at all. The Tokina is tested elsewhere on the site however.
https://sonyalpha.blog/2020/09/30/sigma-105mm-f2-8-dg-dn-macro-art/
AS you can see the Sigma Art Macro is top dog now.
I am not the one to do the shootout. testing lenses in lab conditions is not my way of having fun with photography.
But Marc Alhadeff At Sony Alpha Blog who is qualified/experienced with lens testing has tested each of the lenses on your list. He has a comparison table of all the competitive ones except the Tokina which is not in the same league at all. The Tokina is tested elsewhere on the site however.
https://sonyalpha.blog/2020/09/30/sigma-105mm-f2-8-dg-dn-macro-art/
AS you can see the Sigma Art Macro is top dog now.
Nov 14, 2020 at 01:21 PM
p.11 #19In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Besar wrote:
We need someone to do a macro shootout . So many options now in ~100mm focal range:
* the new Sigma 105mm f2.8 dg dn (AF)
* the forgotten Tokina 100mm f2.8 (AF)
* the venerable Sony 90mm f2.8 (AF)
* CV 110mm f2.8 (MF)
* Laowa 100mm f2.8 (MF, 2:1)
I'm still wondering if and how I should upgrade from my CV65...Below is a comparison between Laowa 100 vs Voigtlander. Laowa with original filter, VC also with filter, but from what I noticed is very sensitive to filter quality. Aperture f / 2.8, crop ~ 40% .Focus on the right eye. If I succeed next week, I'll have a Sigma 105.
https://imgupload.pl/images/2020/11/14/DSC04615-2.jpg
https://imgupload.pl/images/2020/11/14/DSC07420-2.jpg
And for comparison laowa 25. Aperture f / 2.8, crop ~ 40%, scale 2.5: 1. Fantastic lens...
https://imgupload.pl/images/2020/11/14/DSC05911-1.jpg
Thanks, that's exactly what I was talking about . I actually missed the release of Laowa 25mm, indeed it looks really nice... My main gripe about Laowas is the complete lack of EXIF 
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j4nu wrote
1bwana1 wrote
Damn good glass this Sigma. Best macro option for Sony E mount right now. . So many options now in ~100mm focal range:* the new Sigma 105mm f2.8 dg dn (AF)
* the forgotten Tokina 100mm f2.8 (AF)
* the venerable Sony 90mm f2.8 (AF)
* CV 110mm f2.8 (MF)
* Laowa 100mm f2.8 (MF, 2:1)
I'm still wondering if and how I should upgrade from my CV65...
https://imgupload.pl/images/2020/11/14/DSC04615-2.jpg
https://imgupload.pl/images/2020/11/14/DSC07420-2.jpg
And for comparison laowa 25. Aperture f / 2.8, crop ~ 40%, scale 2.5: 1. Fantastic lens...
https://imgupload.pl/images/2020/11/14/DSC05911-1.jpg
Thanks, that's exactly what I was talking about
. I actually missed the release of Laowa 25mm, indeed it looks really nice... My main gripe about Laowas is the complete lack of EXIF .Nov 14, 2020 at 03:05 PM
p.11 #20In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
1bwana1 wrote:
I don't think the CV 65 is primarily a macro that would be used in the same circumstance as the Sigma macro. It is a MF lens that is only 1:2 instead of 1:1. It is a wonderful general purpose lens, with more character rich rendering. I am still looking to add the CV 65 to my kit one day even when I own the Sigma 105.
I am not the one to do the shootout. testing lenses in lab conditions is not my way of having fun with photography.
But Marc Alhadeff At Sony Alpha Blog who is qualified/experienced with...Show more →
Yes, I agree- CV65 is not really a macro, but it gives a nice close-up option when needed during general "walkaround" snaps (and that's how I use it). That's also why I'm thinking of buying a "real" macro, but I really want to limit my lens lineup, so that would probably mean I would let the CV go then...
Anyways, the comparison photos posted in the recent posts in this thread are exactly what I had in mind when I said "shootout". With all respect for Marc, I find it difficult to visualize the difference betewen "outstanding" and "excellent"
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On the other hand, shooting lenses side by side lets anyone make his/her own mind what he/she values more in the output (e.g. sharpness vs "apo-ness" in Sigma vs CV110).
I don't think the CV 65 is primarily a macro that would be used in the same circumstance as the Sigma macro. It is a MF lens that is only 1:2 instead of 1:1. It is a wonderful general purpose lens, with more character rich rendering. I am still looking to add the CV 65 to my kit one day even when I own the Sigma 105.
I am not the one to do the shootout. testing lenses in lab conditions is not my way of having fun with photography.
But Marc Alhadeff At Sony Alpha Blog who is qualified/experienced with...Show more →
Yes, I agree- CV65 is not really a macro, but it gives a nice close-up option when needed during general "walkaround" snaps (and that's how I use it). That's also why I'm thinking of buying a "real" macro, but I really want to limit my lens lineup, so that would probably mean I would let the CV go then...
Anyways, the comparison photos posted in the recent posts in this thread are exactly what I had in mind when I said "shootout". With all respect for Marc, I find it difficult to visualize the difference betewen "outstanding" and "excellent"
.On the other hand, shooting lenses side by side lets anyone make his/her own mind what he/she values more in the output (e.g. sharpness vs "apo-ness" in Sigma vs CV110).
Nov 14, 2020 at 03:14 PM