p.37 #1 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
So in the Gerald Undone video preview he mentions that there’s no option to turn off EFCS like on the A7iii. Seems like a bit of an issue. Seems very odd that option would disappear...
p.37 #2 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
grahamgibson wrote:
So in the Gerald Undone video preview he mentions that there’s no option to turn off EFCS like on the A7iii. Seems like a bit of an issue. Seems very odd that option would disappear...
It might be more of an issue shooting with a full-mechanical shutter in that small a body. The energy produced by closing the first-curtain shutter has to go somewhere.
p.37 #3 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
I will most definitely get this! I've been holding off from upgrading my a7 II because the III is even larger, and I really, really want the smallest possible camera (to use when mountainbiking). I only use manual focus lenses so I care zero about AF and all sorts of fancy functions. I don't even use the EVF for more than maybe 10% of my photos, but a tilting screen is a must.
p.37 #4 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
grahamgibson wrote:
So in the Gerald Undone video preview he mentions that there’s no option to turn off EFCS like on the A7iii. Seems like a bit of an issue. Seems very odd that option would disappear...
Yes, that means no-go for fast lenses at fast shutter speeds, unless you are OK with horrible bokeh. I'm not.
Edit: Unless the electronic shutter readout speed is matched to the mechanical curtain speed. Which is likely, I suppose.
p.37 #7 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
This could be a bit of a trap camera for those new users not fully aware of the limitations. The smallest full frame camera headline kinda makes this an easy sell, but I can't help thinking that most that become semi-serious about photography will eventually want to "move up" and get a more well-rounded camera. But I guess more options are always better, so what ever.
What I find more interesting is that Sony is clearly aiming at cornering the market for the smaller full frame bodies. The Sony A7s III didn't move to the CFExpress type B cards, but the smaller CFEXpress Type A in order to keep the body compact. I think we will see the same moving forward from all of their bodies and A7c is just plugging the hole at the small end. I think Sony will happily let Canon, Nikon and Panasonic make the bigger bodies.
p.37 #8 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
Makten wrote:
I will most definitely get this! I've been holding off from upgrading my a7 II because the III is even larger, and I really, really want the smallest possible camera (to use when mountainbiking). I only use manual focus lenses so I care zero about AF and all sorts of fancy functions. I don't even use the EVF for more than maybe 10% of my photos, but a tilting screen is a must.
me too. i've been sticking with my a7 classic since all the new cameras keep getting bigger. this is basically what i have been looking for, though i'm not sure how i'll feel about the viewfinder. i don't use two dials and don't use AF lenses so none of that matters to me.
p.37 #9 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
I'm still in for one, as long as Japan pricing stays pretty close to U.S. pricing. That should make a bit below 200K yen. It will become available for pre-orders in Japan from Friday and the price for Japan is not announced yet. Release date in Japan is 10/23.
I wasn't expecting a higher spec EVF than what A6600 has so the EVF is pretty much what I expected. I hope it's not too difficult to use for focusing with MF glass. Never had a problem with that with my wife's A6300...
It's nice that the weight is only 509g including battery and memory card. My Sigma fp is around 492g (measured) including small grip (by Sigma), battery (smaller and lighter than NP-FZ100) and memory card and I always use that grip so it's pretty close.
I'm keeping my A9 in any case as so this will be a 2nd Sony camera for active use with different use cases.
p.37 #11 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
sebboh wrote:
me too. i've been sticking with my a7 classic since all the new cameras keep getting bigger. this is basically what i have been looking for, though i'm not sure how i'll feel about the viewfinder. i don't use two dials and don't use AF lenses so none of that matters to me.
I wouldn't mind one dial. I just want them to put it in the right place.
I'm not as worried about the EVF, but that may just be stupid optimism.
p.37 #14 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
RayinNY wrote:
Also, not sure why anyone would want to stick this lens on a RIV.
Depends on how it performs.
It’s not impossible it will be great stopped down, so for hiking landscape you have a 28, 35 and 50mm landscape lens for almost no weight.
Of course, it might be a shitty kit lens that never gets good. But it’s a 2x design, so there’s a chance it performs very well stopped down a bit.
p.37 #15 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
The only thing that worries me about this release is the pricing.
If the entry-level, low-spec (EVF, LCD, controls) model (A7C) is priced at 2099e, I wonder how much A7IV will cost...
For the first time I'll keep my fingers crossed for C&N to keep Sony in check ...
p.37 #16 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
It's interesting actually, lop off the viewfinder and this is rather similar in size to the original A7r. I carried an A7r for many years (just sold it a couple of weeks ago) and I could see why some might want a modern version of the A7r for carry but I'm not sure this is it, the A7c is both heavier and thicker than the A7r, albeit slightly. It's certainly not a full frame a6XXX replacement. The difference between the A7r and my current carry A6000 in the bag is indeed noticeable. This would not be.
p.37 #17 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
NEX-3N had this “feature”. NEX-C3, that is even smaller (the smallest of Sony), had only a shot gun mechanical shutter. Not even EFCS.
Unfortunate crippling.
This also likely would lead to a high number of shutter failure as the EFCS uses a shutter “charger”. That part is not at all robust.
grahamgibson wrote:
So in the Gerald Undone video preview he mentions that there’s no option to turn off EFCS like on the A7iii. Seems like a bit of an issue. Seems very odd that option would disappear...
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