p.2 #1 · Need to buy new batteries for the R5/R6 to use at full capacity!!!
stanj wrote:
I'm seriously amazed that one would forego the obvious advantages of AF just so that you don't have to change batteries. But to each their own, as they say.
As for the reduced frame rate: I've been shooting my 1DX2 with my old 1Ds3 batteries and oh my the shutter was slowed down from 14 to 12, not sure the number of times I missed it. So if I have to feed the R5 my old batteries if in a pinch, I am sure I can stomach the reduced frame rate, and that probably holds true for most other people as well.
As for "only compressed raw possible in E-shutter" - all Canon raws have been compressed, always. So that's good. And if he's referring to CRAW, then that's fine too. It's objectively hard to measure the difference, and I have been using Sony's equivalent for the better part of a year now and I really can't tell much of a difference either. So I think we'll be fine....Show more →
Yes, CRaw. When you get to 45 MP, I definitely prefer to squeeze out every little last bit I can out of the sensor.
p.2 #2 · Need to buy new batteries for the R5/R6 to use at full capacity!!!
Nikon1960 wrote:
Yes, CRaw. When you get to 45 MP, I definitely prefer to squeeze out every little last bit I can out of the sensor.
Is that somehow different than it was a decade ago from 16MP to 21MP? Or in 2002 from 3MP to 6MP? One may even say that as things are getting absurdly good, missing a bit is not such a big deal. When I was walking around with my D30 it was hard to get a decent 8x12" print, so yes I was squeezing out every little bit and framing super carefully. Today with my a7r4 I can be sloppier because I can crop here, lighten the shadows there, without the photo really suffering. I shot a few thousand shots with the a7r4 in (Sony's truly uncompressed) raw and in (lossy) compressed. Could not tell the difference, except that the camera was decidedly more usable with compressed raw. Shot a few tens of thousands of frames with my R in raw, then another few thousands in CRAW, and could not tell the difference (processing in LR on XDR display).
In many ways the sensor image quality is getting asymptotical. What's greatly improving are the lenses (man I love the RF lenses) and the usability of the camera, especially in AF and also "exposure simulation" in the EVF. With the R I have sometimes too many keepers (% wise), a feeling I've never had before.
Today I sold both my 1DX2 and 5DSR and I didn't even say goodbye.
p.2 #3 · Need to buy new batteries for the R5/R6 to use at full capacity!!!
stanj wrote:
Is that somehow different than it was a decade ago from 16MP to 21MP? Or in 2002 from 3MP to 6MP? One may even say that as things are getting absurdly good, missing a bit is not such a big deal. When I was walking around with my D30 it was hard to get a decent 8x12" print, so yes I was squeezing out every little bit and framing super carefully. Today with my a7r4 I can be sloppier because I can crop here, lighten the shadows there, without the photo really suffering. I shot a few thousand shots with the a7r4 in (Sony's truly uncompressed) raw and in (lossy) compressed. Could not tell the difference, except that the camera was decidedly more usable with compressed raw. Shot a few tens of thousands of frames with my R in raw, then another few thousands in CRAW, and could not tell the difference (processing in LR on XDR display). In many ways the sensor image quality is getting asymptotical. What's greatly improving are the lenses (man I love the RF lenses) and the usability of the camera, especially in AF and also "exposure simulation" in the EVF. With the R I have sometimes too many keepers (% wise), a feeling I've never had before. Today I sold both my 1DX2 and 5DSR and I didn't even say goodbye....Show more →
Based on what you just said, yes I would favor foregoing AF instead of having a perfect point and shoot in my hand that does everything for me including nailing focus nearly 100% of the time. I will actually feel embarrassed calling myself a photographer with a camera that I can hand anyone with the ability to point and shoot and get the same results at f/1.2 without having to control anything in the camera. The day has come and that's where we are at now. The operator is gone and we're left with the artist.
I'll continue using the dinosaurs for stills for awhile and deal with the AF missing a shot here and there. Images won't improve with the new expensive MILCs but video sure will with this amazing AF system. I'm very attracted to the R5/R6 for video but need to confirm battery life and heat issues.
p.2 #4 · Need to buy new batteries for the R5/R6 to use at full capacity!!!
I am amazed how people are shocked that a small camera like this and weather sealed that shoots 8k overheats. Really? Have you seen the Cinema Cameras which have fans built in. I actually think Canon did a great job being even able to pull it off at all. The 1dx Mark III does great with heat issues but as everyone calls it a brick and battery life is just outstanding but again a brick. You all want small and light but no compromises good luck with that. Again kudos to Canon for allowing backwards compatibly with the batteries, they could of said here is the new designed battery and the old ones do not work at all, then everyone will still complain.
I for one love the 1dx Mark III and preordered the R5 which I feel will be a outstanding combo, we will see. Good job Canon on the new releases
p.2 #5 · Need to buy new batteries for the R5/R6 to use at full capacity!!!
scalesusa wrote:
My LP-E6N batteries are getting old now, still 2 stars, but I would just sell them with my existing bodies and get new ones. The cost of a R5 plus CF express cards will run close to 5K, so what's another 250 for batteries?
Totally agree. Anyone who has been using higher end cameras understands that the price of the body is not the whole story.
I am actually MEGA impressed with Canon batteries. I bought 2 extra batteries with my Canon 5Dm2 in 2009 and they still work decently. To me a 10 year old functional battery is amazing.
If I ever buy the R5 I would have bought fresh batteries for it anyway.
p.2 #7 · Need to buy new batteries for the R5/R6 to use at full capacity!!!
arbitrage wrote:
Not to mention no way to shoot less than 20FPS in e-shutter Have fun culling
Personally I’m thinking I won’t using the e shutter much. I already struggle trying to decide what file to post after shooting 5 FPS with my R. I’ll be happy to get back to the 7D2 level plus a few more.
p.2 #8 · Need to buy new batteries for the R5/R6 to use at full capacity!!!
artsupreme wrote:
I imagine it's not going to do well in my water housing with all that heat.
As I was reading this, I literally thought the same thing. I can feel the heat coming from 5 minutes of underwater video with my 1Dx3. The R5 would overheat in like 10 minutes on 4k.