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p.14 #1 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Knut. wrote:
Does anyone know how the Voigtländer 75mm F1.9 Ultron in VM-Mount performs on the Sony sensor stack?

It‘s such a nice, small lens that spaces reasonably well between 35 and 135mm…


I would suspect with high likelihood that it is fine - two things are going for it: the focal length and the lens speed. I have used rangefinder M lenses a lot on my Sony A7R (unmodified) before using digital M. I have only seen issue with M lenses below 50 mm FL. And then especially if they were f/2.8 or slower - faster lenses were fine due to the larger inner lens diameter. The 75/1.9 has both positives to work with thicker sensor stack.



Oct 06, 2023 at 12:21 PM
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p.14 #2 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Knut. wrote:
Does anyone know how the Voigtländer 75mm F1.9 Ultron in VM-Mount performs on the Sony sensor stack?

It‘s such a nice, small lens that spaces reasonably well between 35 and 135mm…


I think it works very well. I have one and have used it on my A7C quite happily, mostly wide open for close range and at f5.6 for corner-to-corner sharp infinity shots. Some samples:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sqDbmff7dmfJW8pF8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vBaF6J5wQhbLWMRN7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ydhDFzb5oKMhV3q8A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7SNkDWc84vdzxhLP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pwu8mkXbeoAGPyt57
https://photos.app.goo.gl/71MVb2Tc4ciW73Ji7



Oct 06, 2023 at 09:17 PM
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p.14 #3 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Juha Kannisto wrote:
I think it works very well. I have one and have used it on my A7C quite happily, mostly wide open for close range and at f5.6 for corner-to-corner sharp infinity shots. Some samples:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sqDbmff7dmfJW8pF8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vBaF6J5wQhbLWMRN7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ydhDFzb5oKMhV3q8A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7SNkDWc84vdzxhLP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pwu8mkXbeoAGPyt57
https://photos.app.goo.gl/71MVb2Tc4ciW73Ji7


Lovely samples, Juha! There’s absolutely no difference on the thicker Sony sensor. Generally, this is more of an issue with wide and normal lenses.

I should add the CV 50/3.5 APO to the list of not affected lenses as well.



Nov 18, 2024 at 12:39 PM
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p.14 #4 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


@Knut.

Here is a controlled direct bokeh comp—zero issues on a Stock Sony. It’s a great lens on either.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1801660/8/



Nov 18, 2024 at 01:06 PM
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p.14 #5 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Thank you.


Nov 18, 2024 at 04:39 PM
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p.14 #6 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Updating this list:

M-lenses performing similarly on Sony and Leica:
Voigtlander 10mm f/5.6
Voigtlander 12mm f/5.6 III
Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III
Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5
Voigtlander 75mm f/1.5
Voigtlander 50mm f/3.5 APO-Lanthar

M-lenses performing better on Leica and still "OK" on Sony:
Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 III
Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II

M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica:
Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton
Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron
Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 28mm f/1.5 Nokton
Voigtlander 35mm f/2.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 35mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 90mm f/2 APO-Ultron



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p.14 #7 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Fred Miranda wrote:
Updating this list:

M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica:
Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton
Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron
Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 28mm f/1.5 Nokton
Voigtlander 35mm f/2.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 35mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 90mm f/2 APO-Ultron


Adding a few ones (M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica) I tested both on Leica M and Sony E-mount cameras. The lenses below exhibit purple vignetting and some corner blur on Sony E-mount sensors when used with M/E adapter.

Voigtlander 12/5.6 II
Voigtlander 21/1.8
Voigtlander 25/4.0 Snapshot Skopar
Leica 35/2.0 ASPH Version I (stay away from adapting to Sony - doesn't even focus sharp throughout the frame at f/8 and exhibits focus unevenness).



Apr 15, 2025 at 07:22 AM
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p.14 #8 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Voigtländer Super Wide Heliar 15mm f/4.5 II - is very good lens




Apr 19, 2025 at 10:08 AM
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p.14 #9 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


retrofocus wrote:
Adding a few ones (M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica) I tested both on Leica M and Sony E-mount cameras. The lenses below exhibit purple vignetting and some corner blur on Sony E-mount sensors when used with M/E adapter.

Voigtlander 12/5.6 II
Voigtlander 21/1.8
Voigtlander 25/4.0 Snapshot Skopar
Leica 35/2.0 ASPH Version I (stay away from adapting to Sony - doesn't even focus sharp throughout the frame at f/8 and exhibits focus unevenness).


Adding the CV 35/2 Ultron as bad on stock Sony but great on Leica.

The CV 35/1.7 is pretty ok on a stock Sony and great on a Leica.





CV 35/1.7







CV 35/1.7







CV 35/1.7




Apr 19, 2025 at 06:44 PM
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p.14 #10 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


For me, the 35mm f/1.7 Ultron is still one of the best wide-aperture 35mm lenses for the M mount today. It's sharp, has beautiful bokeh, and a close focusing distance of under 0.7m – just an all-around fantastic lens that doesn’t need to hide from any others. Especially not from the 35mm ASPH Summilux versions. And definitely not when you can get it in like-new condition with hood for around 400 euros.


Apr 21, 2025 at 07:02 AM
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p.14 #11 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


gammarART wrote:
For me, the 35mm f/1.7 Ultron is still one of the best wide-aperture 35mm lenses for the M mount today. It's sharp, has beautiful bokeh, and a close focusing distance of under 0.7m – just an all-around fantastic lens that doesn’t need to hide from any others. Especially not from the 35mm ASPH Summilux versions. And definitely not when you can get it in like-new condition with hood for around 400 euros.


One cool thing too about the 35/1.7–offers full coverage on a GFX. At least at shorter distances. I never checked at further than a 15 or so feet. Lots of vignetting, but no hard vignetting.

If the 35 Lux ASPH and 35/1.7 were the same price, which would you prefer?





CV 35/1.7 GFX







A7r2 + CV 35/1.7







CV 35/1.7




Apr 21, 2025 at 10:26 AM
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p.14 #12 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


nehemiahphoto wrote:
If the 35 Lux ASPH and 35/1.7 were the same price, which would you prefer?


Yes, it really is impressive what the CV 35mm f/1.7 is still capable of – even on the GFX.

If price weren’t a factor, I’d honestly love to mount the current Summilux on my M. The silver design just looks incredible on a silver M, and wide open it's slightly sharper than the Ultron, with more pleasant handling. But that’s about it. In terms of bokeh, the CV is noticeably smoother and more pleasing to my eyes. That’s where the Summilux can’t quite keep up.

If the Ultron came in a simple barrel design – like the CV 35mm f/1.5 or the Summilux – it would be a dream. But I got a great deal on the 40mm f/1.2 last year, and since then, it’s become my daily driver and new favorite lens (though the new Apo Ultron is a whole lot of fun too).

40mm is just such a lovely focal length – even if it only takes a tiny crop from a 35mm lens to get there.



Apr 22, 2025 at 06:29 AM
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