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akriegsfeld
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p.1 #1 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


Hi Everyone,

Just picked up a Canon 70-200 F4 IS lens. When it is mounted on my Canon M5 the Image Stabilization stays on constantly. It does not stop unless the camera is shut off.
Am I missing a setting in the camera menu? I haven't tried it on my EOS R yet. Should I expect the same thing. I hope someone has a solution to this problem, this will kill the battery very fast.

Thanks

Alan



Nov 04, 2019 at 01:00 PM
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p.1 #2 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


This is typical for pretty much every mirrorless camera - when VR/IS is enabled it is engaged all the time while the camera is on.


Nov 04, 2019 at 01:41 PM
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p.1 #3 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


You might look for a setting whether the IS is set for continuous or "shooting"-- shooting means it'll only turn on the moment before you take a photo.

But regardless, it should only turn on from the time you have your finger on the shutter button until shortly after you take your finger off the button -- if you aren't touching anything and it's staying on, that's weird behavior. My Sonys and my Fuji have never behaved in that way.



Nov 04, 2019 at 03:00 PM
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p.1 #4 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


Nope, this the same behaviour as the R and RP. There seems to be no way to disable it, unlike continuous auto focus, where you can disable and only auto focus on half press.


Nov 04, 2019 at 06:32 PM
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p.1 #5 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


I was hoping someone here had a magical answer. Why would Cannon design mirrorless this way. Anyone know if this is the normal across other brands


Nov 04, 2019 at 07:15 PM
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p.1 #6 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


snapsy already told you it is.

My guess is that EVF already eats much more battery than stabilization. My other guess is that starting and stopping is the most power consuming operation, since it unlocks and locks it in place. I might be completely off the track, and I don't care at the moment to do research.

By the way, I don't care because battery life seems to be pretty good compared to what I would have expected.

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Nov 04, 2019 at 07:35 PM
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p.1 #7 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


Thanks, for the information everyone.


Nov 04, 2019 at 07:53 PM
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p.1 #8 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


It is the constant DPAF mode (as opposed to AI servo) that causes this, and I have it turned off on my M body. I set my M up like my DSLR, I have a set AF point and use BBF.


Nov 05, 2019 at 06:14 AM
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p.1 #9 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


TeamSpeed wrote:
It is the constant DPAF mode (as opposed to AI servo) that causes this, and I have it turned off on my M body. I set my M up like my DSLR, I have a set AF point and use BBF.


Could you elaborate on this? How do you disable constant DPAF?

On my RP I am set to AI Servo (only focuses when I press the shutter release button) yet IS continues to run.



Nov 07, 2019 at 02:22 AM
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p.1 #10 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


akriegsfeld wrote:
I was hoping someone here had a magical answer. Why would Cannon design mirrorless this way. Anyone know if this is the normal across other brands


Well, you could flip the IS switch on the lens to off. That's what I did with my M3 since IS never turned off otherwise. Of course you'll have to remember to enable when really to shoot. Oddly the first generation of M cameras had a menu setting to customize IS behavior but now perpetual operation is a feature...



Nov 07, 2019 at 04:44 AM
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p.1 #11 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


Gochugogi wrote:
Well, you could flip the IS switch on the lens to off. That's what I did with my M3 since IS never turned off otherwise. Of course you'll have to remember to enable when really to shoot. Oddly the first generation of M cameras had a menu setting to customize IS behavior but now perpetual operation is a feature...


Sounds like a very inconvenient solution ...

I sometimes turn off IS on my 100L macro for flying dragonflies because I have found that the IS then works against me (older lenses like 4/300IS are way worse and make very scary noises when moving the camera quickly). Problem is I very often forget to switch it on again a few minutes later for the next macro picture where it really makes a difference; sometimes I even forget for the rest of the day Without IS many macro images have some camera shake because I am accustomed to work with the lowest ISO/shutter speed that is possible with IS on.

This needs a better solution, maybe even something simple like an optional IVF/EVF indication of IS activity would help (e.g. produce a blinking warning light when IS on a lens with IS is switched off?). And on the same subject, I would also REALLY want the IS setting to be something you can set in C1/C2 custom mode...



Nov 07, 2019 at 05:34 AM
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technic wrote:
Sounds like a very inconvenient solution ...

This needs a better solution, maybe even something simple like an optional IVF/EVF indication of IS activity would help (e.g. produce a blinking warning light when IS on a lens with IS is switched off?). And on the same subject, I would also REALLY want the IS setting to be something you can set in C1/C2 custom mode...



It really does need a better solution. I've logged a complaint with Canon Canada, hoping somebody would send it to Japan, but I'm not holding much hope out. I wish whichever product planner or executive would read our complaints and make the change.



Nov 07, 2019 at 10:34 AM
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p.1 #13 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


The IS DOES NOT stay on all the time on with the M5 or the R On the R the IS is on if you are ready to take a picture. If you press the MENU or DISPLAY button the IS shuts off in 4 sec. It also shuts off when the display is off so set your power saving time outs lower. The difference between the M5 and R is the M5 does not have a "Viewfinder off" time out that locks out the EVF from waking up the camera. The M5 does not have this lock out and if the camera is asleep in your bag the sensor on the EVF can and will keep keep the camera and IS on

What I do with the R is set the time outs low and when I bring the camera to my eye I press the shutter button to wake up the camera (if the camera is sleeping it will not take a picture).

The M5 and the R are the only Canon mirrorless I have used, so cant speak for the others.



Nov 10, 2019 at 05:07 PM
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p.1 #14 · Image Stablization Mirrorless Cameras


icsdave wrote:
The IS DOES NOT stay on all the time on with the M5 or the R On the R the IS is on if you are ready to take a picture. If you press the MENU or DISPLAY button the IS shuts off in 4 sec. It also shuts off when the display is off so set your power saving time outs lower. The difference between the M5 and R is the M5 does not have a "Viewfinder off" time out that locks out the EVF from waking up the camera. The M5 does not have this lock out
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But that is all the time for most practical purposes, since there is no viewfinder without power and IS. How does IS Mode 3 work in continuous shooting?

EBH




Nov 10, 2019 at 08:48 PM





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