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p.1 #1 · Dolomite hiking conditions


I'm interested in the Dolomites as a area to visit. I'm fine with longer hikes and climbs to get to photo sites. But, I am not comfortable with walking along exposed cliff edges, having to climb scree areas and things like that. Mountain climbing is definitely out :-) I've walked coastal trails in Cornwall and along the cliffs down the English coast in the Whitby/Scarborough area and was generally OK with them.

I haven't been able to find information about the nature of the trails to the prime Dolomite photo locations. Any advice would be appreciated.



Oct 11, 2019 at 06:42 AM
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I just spent a week shooting the Dolomites. You will find that all of better known photography sites have trails that are easily accessible. There are some challenging hikes, but nothing risky, or requiring climbing skills.

There is an excellent book available titled "Photographing The Dolomites" by James Rushforth. It has detailed trail and access information on all the sites.

https://www.amazon.com/Photographing-Dolomites-photo-location-visitors-guidebook/dp/0992905168/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=photographing+the+dolomites&qid=1570802632&sr=8-1

I found it a great guide during my trip.

Have fun, Steve



Oct 11, 2019 at 09:07 AM
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1bwana1 wrote:
I just spent a week shooting the Dolomites. You will find that all of better known photography sites have trails that are easily accessible. There are some challenging hikes, but nothing risky, or requiring climbing skills.

There is an excellent book available titled "Photographing The Dolomites" by James Rushforth. It has detailed trail and access information on all the sites.

https://www.amazon.com/Photographing-Dolomites-photo-location-visitors-guidebook/dp/0992905168/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=photographing+the+dolomites&qid=1570802632&sr=8-1

I found it a great guide during my trip.

Have fun, Steve


Many thanks. I knew you were over there (I've been following your thread). Hope to see some great photos. Great to get first-hand information. I'll have a look into that book - it looks very interesting.



Oct 11, 2019 at 09:18 AM
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Nick, many of the most famous locations are access by gondola, or chair lift to get you up to the top areas of the mountains. Then it is a nice hike on well traveled trails to get you to the best vantage points. Some of the hikes are long, with some steep sections which can challenge at altitude, but any Canadian should find this no problem.

The big problem in the Dolomites is trying to pick your shots. The whole area is just incredibly beautiful, so many opportunities.



Oct 11, 2019 at 09:44 AM
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Yeah, most of the honeypot locations are easily accessible.

To get around to the back of the Tre Cime (to Rifugio Locatelli) is a bit of a hike time-wise but in no way difficult or dangerous.
The churches at Santa Maddalena are essentially "park up and get out of the car"
Seceda has a cable-car right to the top (although if you want sunrise/sunset you'll be hiking)
There's lots of sheer-drop via ferrata around if that's your thing, but you'll get great images without going near them.



Oct 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM
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One of the reasons I can't talk myself into shooting the Dolomites is that it is so freaking over developed. Most of the time when you see the pic of an awesome peak the photog had to pay extra close attention not to get the restaurant or the gondola into the frame. Ugh...

A few years ago I even bought a via Ferrata kit thinking that maybe it would be a more solitary experience. Then I did the research. The kit is still sitting in a bin, likely to never be used.



Oct 12, 2019 at 07:41 PM
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GroovyGeek wrote:
One of the reasons I can't talk myself into shooting the Dolomites is that it is so freaking over developed. Most of the time when you see the pic of an awesome peak the photog had to pay extra close attention not to get the restaurant or the gondola into the frame. Ugh...

A few years ago I even bought a via Ferrata kit thinking that maybe it would be a more solitary experience. Then I did the research. The kit is still sitting in a bin, likely to never be used.


I know what you are talking about Groovy, and might have agreed with you 20 years ago. At almost 70, I am very thankful for those Gondolas.




Oct 13, 2019 at 12:24 AM
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1bwana1 wrote:
I just spent a week shooting the Dolomites. You will find that all of better known photography sites have trails that are easily accessible. There are some challenging hikes, but nothing risky, or requiring climbing skills.

There is an excellent book available titled "Photographing The Dolomites" by James Rushforth. It has detailed trail and access information on all the sites.

https://www.amazon.com/Photographing-Dolomites-photo-location-visitors-guidebook/dp/0992905168/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=photographing+the+dolomites&qid=1570802632&sr=8-1


Does the book get in to detail about public transit to the trail heads. One problem I had in researching a Dolomites trip is the difficulty in finding out about the myriad of public bus services between the towns and if they stop at refucgio or gondolas. I do not drive/rent a car when I travel.
I was considering doing the Tre Cimi loop this December but the road to the refugio is closed.




Nov 19, 2019 at 12:53 PM
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The book gives excellent maps and directions on how to find each photographic site. The Dolomites has pretty good bus services, but the book does not cover this for each site. It does contain an pretty good index to the websites of all the public transportation companies where you can get maps of routes and schedules.


Nov 19, 2019 at 01:28 PM
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I recommend you to read this page

https://inafarawayland.com/italian-dolomites-guide/



Mar 07, 2022 at 10:00 AM
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I resume this old thread, with my considerations, just in case someone can be interested.
I live just few hours from Dolomites, and I visit them three/four times per year.
I am not a “master of the mountains”, but rather a normal men.

The Dolomites can be very challenging, and deciding on the best time to visit them is always a nightmare.
Winter is magical, spring is exciting, summer would be perfect, and fall (if you know where to go) is breathtaking.

From a photographic point of view, there are no "restaurant or gondola in the frame" problems as soon as you get a few feet away.
These problems arises when you do not know where to go or if you didn’t had any scouting before shooting.
The real problem is that the best places are overcrowded, but as soon as the rush hour ends you find yourself alone in the high mountains, and you always have to remember that.
Sometimes the peak hours often include sunrise and sunset, unfortunately.
Especially in the Tre Cime area, sometimes it feels like Iceland: a continuous line of photographers taking almost the same shot.

You have to walk to take good photographs, often over 2,000 meters: this results in breathing and sleeping problems for the first few days, even for those who are trained.
However, 90% of the points of interest are easily accessible, 8% are a bit more difficult is only 2% require some climbing.

If you consider, for example, the Torri del Vajolet, it is really very easy to approach the Vajolet Hut (90% of the hike): cable car, almost flat path, only a small ramp at the end, but on a driveway.
The last 700 meters, however, go up 350 meters, from 2250 meters to 2600 meters, between rocks, on an equipped trail.

In short, if you want to hike it, I recommend that you prepare well beforehand and rely on someone who knows the area well.



Sep 24, 2022 at 03:35 AM
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GroovyGeek wrote:
One of the reasons I can't talk myself into shooting the Dolomites is that it is so freaking over developed. Most of the time when you see the pic of an awesome peak the photog had to pay extra close attention not to get the restaurant or the gondola into the frame. Ugh...

A few years ago I even bought a via Ferrata kit thinking that maybe it would be a more solitary experience. Then I did the research. The kit is still sitting in a bin, likely to never be used.


I think that Americans with experience in America's wild areas (speaking as one) can be a bit shocked by the level and types of development in the mountain ranges of Europe in general. The first time I did a mountain hike in Germany (in the Berchtesgaden area) we started by taking the Jennerbahn tram to the top of the ridge, exiting through a large building with restaurants and so forth. We hiked across a saddle and started down the valley, passing grazing cattle (the sound of the cow bells was magical) and then stopping halfway down the descent at a little place one could enjoy a beer and kasebrot. Resuming the hike we finished more or less where we started and... walked to nearby restaurant for dinner!

I'm still not sure how to respond to this difference, but that's the way it is over there. The mountains are still spectacular, though there's often more of a kind of "rustic" feeling, rather than the wild or wilderness feeling that we can find in many places in the US.

Having said that, I suspect that if I had a level of knowledge in these places close that which I have developed about certain American places that I might be able to figure out how to better "get away from the crowds." For example, I can go to Yosemite Valley on a crowded day — though I rarely do so — and actually find solitude there. There are places to hike in the crowded Bay Area where I can manage to avoid encountering crowds even on summer weekends. In other words, I suspect that local knowledge plays a part, and that many of us who are just visiting idon'thave that.



Sep 24, 2022 at 10:54 AM
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LeoPizzo wrote:
I resume this old thread, with my considerations, just in case someone can be interested.
I live just few hours from Dolomites, and I visit them three/four times per year.
I am not a “master of the mountains”, but rather a normal men.

The Dolomites can be very challenging, and deciding on the best time to visit them is always a nightmare.
Winter is magical, spring is exciting, summer would be perfect, and fall (if you know where to go) is breathtaking.

From a photographic point of view, there are no "restaurant or gondola in the frame" problems as soon as you get a few
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I agree with you and Dan that local knowledge is absolutely necessary to find the gems. Alas that takes multiple visits, and when I think about the world there are much more remote places that I would return to multiple times to scout rather than the Dolomites. How can a mere 2km hike get you out of the crowds? There is a hut at the base of Torri del Vajolet which almost automatically means that it is pretty well visited. I will relatively frequently hike 15km+ with 1km+ elevation gain if I think there is good photography at the end. But what you describe feels more like a stroll with a brief but not particularly challenging exertion at the end.

This is not a diss of the Dolomites. The mountains look absolutely spectacular but solitude is why I do landscape photography and there are far better options for that locally and elsewhere in the world.




Sep 24, 2022 at 11:45 AM
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So many mountains. So little time. :-)

Dan



Sep 24, 2022 at 05:24 PM
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In principle you are right, but you have to consider that the meaning of "alone" in the Dolomites (and in Italy, even more so) and in the American wilderness areas is necessarily different.

People come from all over the world to visit: every year I meet dozens of people on my treks, many even from the USA.

The country is small, and of course people flock there: there is nothing negative about that, just an observation.

Everyone then wants to do the "grand tour": lake Braies, Siusi, Tre Cime, Cinque Torri, Cadini di Misurina, lake Federa, lagazuoi, lake Antorno, lake Limides, Passo Giau, Santa Maddalena, Ranui,... and so it's the norm to find those places full of people, like if you want to go photograph the Grand Prismatic or Antelope Canyon.

I assure you, however, that if you don't want to photograph the "classic" spots all and go a few hundred yards the people magically "disappear."

If you then go there before sunrise and at sunset (or right after), you can photograph the spots as well, but you might not be alone.

And yes, you are right: so many mountains and so little time.

Leonardo



Sep 25, 2022 at 09:30 AM
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LeoPizzo wrote:
I assure you, however, that if you don't want to photograph the "classic" spots all and go a few hundred yards the people magically "disappear."


Indeed.

I regularly photograph in well-known areas of the West Coast of the USA... and I can find solitude using the same approach. I'm thinking about this in regards to one of my areas of expertise, the autumn aspen color in the Eastern Sierra Nevada. This is a very popular subject, and in certain locations one may encounter literal crowds of people, including dozens of photographers lined up tripod-to-tripod to make the same photograph of one of the icons. Meanwhile, not that far away, one can find solitude in locations that are a bit less accessible and a bit less well-known.

Dan



Sep 25, 2022 at 10:08 AM





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