p.1 #4 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
This seems to me like an announcement for powdered milk.
I go to Nikon Rumors every morning looking for a “to be announced soon” on the 70-200 f/2.8 and the 58 f/.095. (This last one just out of curiosity).
But, it’s always something else there.
It’s almost October. Have saved up my 70-200 money, and there is still no place for it to go.
p.1 #5 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
Yeah, if it’s an APS-C body then having a different battery is a non-issue in my opinion. Can’t wait to see more about it, new bodies are always exciting. My guess is that’s why there is so much empty question marks on the lens roadmap, because they hadn’t announced a crop-body Z-mount yet and a lot of those unannounced lenses will be lower-quality APS-C.
p.1 #7 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
JPuckettPhoto wrote:
Yeah, if it’s an APS-C body then having a different battery is a non-issue in my opinion.
EOS RP and EOS M6 Mk II share the same batttery (LP-E17). If Z50 isn't a fake, will Nikon release a lighter/smaller FF Z camera with same battery as Z50? We will see.
p.1 #8 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
JPuckettPhoto wrote:
Yeah, if it’s an APS-C body then having a different battery is a non-issue in my opinion. Can’t wait to see more about it, new bodies are always exciting. My guess is that’s why there is so much empty question marks on the lens roadmap, because they hadn’t announced a crop-body Z-mount yet and a lot of those unannounced lenses will be lower-quality APS-C.
All the higher-end APS-C bodies today use the EN-EL15's....
p.1 #9 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
It's exciting news. I'm glad Nikon is finally stepping into the mirrorless 'crop sensor' game. I know the J series were great but it's a bummer you just don't see too many of it compared to it's competitors.
Same sensor as the D500 is super intriguing. I hope Nikon really fills in the gap with this camera to market towards 'vloggers' and travelers. During my trip to Japan and South Korea, I saw a lot of Sony, Fuji, Olympus mirrorless cameras. I'm actually really looking forward to this.
p.1 #10 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
Meh.
If I wanted an APS-C mirrorless, there would already be Fujifilm X.
Even if Nikon would focus on their APS-C mirrorless, which naturally they wont, and would this time around actually fully support it, which I dont expect them to do, just like they didnt do with crop DSLRs - they would need years before they have a compareable system to Fujifilms X.
p.1 #11 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
Sauseschritt wrote:
Meh.
If I wanted an APS-C mirrorless, there would already be Fujifilm X.
Even if Nikon would focus on their APS-C mirrorless, which naturally they wont, and would this time around actually fully support it, which I dont expect them to do, just like they didnt do with crop DSLRs - they would need years before they have a compareable system to Fujifilms X.
Not all of us want to leave Nikon for a different ecosystem just because they already have APS-C mirrorless that is more advanced that what Nikon will be putting out.
Show me where Fuji can match the Nikon 300 PF or 500 PF on an APS-C? Those lenses would be killer on a Nikon APS-C mirrorless. Not all crop shooters want to shoot crop with DX lenses, there are plenty of other uses for APS-C with FX lenses.
p.1 #12 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
Ripolini wrote:
I guess it won't cost less than 1200 US $ with the kit lens.
It should be < $700 with kit lens. Higher cannot compete with Canon M50 kit offers. Nikon should sell this DX MILC body at cost. Every body they sell = more sales of Z-Mount optics (and more Nikon gear) as a decent %age of first-buy buyers will then stay with Nikon :-)
I'm thinking that this will be the mid-range APS-C body, fitting between a consumer (Z30?) and Prosumer/highend (Z70?)
The listed lenses support that idea, the two initial lenses certainly aren't what you'd buy with a D500 equivalent, or even a D7500 equivalent. The smaller (reportedly 1120mAh) pack also leans that way. So does the low max fps (11fps is consumer grade in APS-C mirrorless, 18-20 is modern midrange these days). Since high FPS is easy to do with mirrorless, it's become a bit of a bragging rights thing (even though anything over 10fps is pretty much a PITA to work with in the real world).
p.1 #14 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
AvianScott wrote:
Not all of us want to leave Nikon for a different ecosystem just because they already have APS-C mirrorless that is more advanced that what Nikon will be putting out.
Show me where Fuji can match the Nikon 300 PF or 500 PF on an APS-C? Those lenses would be killer on a Nikon APS-C mirrorless. Not all crop shooters want to shoot crop with DX lenses, there are plenty of other uses for APS-C with FX lenses.
Agreed. Only half dozen DX Z-Nikkors are all that's needed. The new owner of the Z50 will dream of affording FX Z-mount primes and key F-Nikkors, notably 300 PF. After all, an affordable DX Nikon Z camera + 300 PF will give one great wildlife camera.
Even better if Nikon fix the FTZ - ie optional version. This will meet the marketing sloganning of the Z-mount being "compatible with at least 380 F-Mount Nikkors...." but only has full functionality with DSLR era glass [G and E lenses]. Fixing EXIF support in a FTZ with AIS Nikkors will add another 100+ options in classic MF Nikkors, which can take full advantage of focus-peaking and allied focusing aids. A FTZd supporting screwdriver AF for AFD type glass even better. Thus a new owner of a Z50 can build their excellent Nikon system, until they can afford new Z-Nikkors.
Nikon holds the Unique strategic advantage to combine the emerging / budget photographer with Flexibility+Affordability. This will delight such emerging photographers, and in 3rd world countries especially.
p.1 #15 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
chambeshi wrote:
It should be < $700 with kit lens. Higher cannot compete with Canon M50 kit offers. Nikon should sell this DX MILC body at cost. Every body they sell = more sales of Z-Mount optics (and more Nikon gear) as a decent %age of first-buy buyers will then stay with Nikon :-)
Be interesting if they use their common sense
I'm thinking that the eventual Z30 will be the M50 competitor. That said, if Nikon brings this in at M50 pricing, they're set to have a very good Christmas as Sony failed to do that with the A6100 and Fuji's X-T100 is badly in need of the internals of the X-A7.
p.1 #16 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
chambeshi wrote:
Agreed. Only half dozen DX Z-Nikkors are all that's needed. The new owner of the Z50 will dream of affording FX Z-mount primes and key F-Nikkors, notably 300 PF. After all, an affordable DX Nikon Z camera + 300 PF will give one great wildlife camera.
Nikon needs to do the right DX Z-Nikkors, not the dozen 18-xx/xxx zooms and poor prime selection they did.
The two new lenses are a nice starter. Give us a Z 35/1.8DX and 10-20 f4-5.6 next to cover all the consumer bases. One 16-200 for the do-everything zoom types then give us a nice selection of small and fastish primes. 16, 24, 58 to round out the core set, a 10 & 14 for the UWA guys. Top it off with a 10-24/4, 16-55/2.8 and 16-80/4
And for gods sake, everything should be weather sealed.
If that looks a lot like Fuji's lens lineup, well there's a reason for that. Fuji got a LOT right and while they have a very limited lens line, what they do have is perfectly chosen.
As to teh FTZ, there's nothing wrong with it. Just update the camera firmware to make sure that lens data is in EXIF and we're good. A screwdriver FTZ is just pointless (I've had the Sony version, performance sucks and it eats battery)
p.1 #17 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
mawz wrote:
I'm thinking that the eventual Z30 will be the M50 competitor. That said, if Nikon brings this in at M50 pricing, they're set to have a very good Christmas
as Sony failed to do that with the A6100 and Fuji's X-T100 is badly in need of the internals of the X-A7.
Hope they read your suggestion :-) Common sense to some of us.
For each teenager or college student gifted a Z50 + Time * Earning Power = increased Market Share of the Z Nikon System
p.1 #18 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
chambeshi wrote:
Hope they read your suggestion :-) Common sense to some of us.
Fore each teenager or college student gifted a Z50 + Time * Earning Power = increased Market Share of the Z Nikon System
I'll buy one for sure at that price instead of the E-M5III I was planning on buying this fall.
A really solid DX Z mount setup would likely have me moving back from m43 to Nikon (I still have a bunch of Nikkors, a D300 and FE).
Since I'm pretty comfortable adapting longer lenses, if Nikon delivered a solid mid-range solution to match my E-M5II in most regards, I'd be willing to come back.
But it needs to be the following:
1. Small & light. The Z6+FTZ weighs more than a D750... I want something at the 400g mark for DX midrange.
2. Good viewfinder - Look at the E-M5II, not the X-T30 here
3. No stupid stuff. I'm good with single card slots and no vertical grip if you hit the M50's pricepoint. But not altoids-tin ergonomics or pointless crippling.
I carry my E-M5II everywhere with either a 25/1.7 or 14-42 EZ (the PZ one, it's barely bigger than a F mount body cap), I'd want to do that with this body too. So I need the 16-55 to be small enough, and even more so I need a sanely sized Z 35/1.8DX. I know the S lenses are amazing, but they're HUGE for their speed and I don't do huge.
If Nikon does it right, I'd be willing to jump ship again. I would love to have the ability to adapt F mount lenses to fill the price/performance gap that mirrorless has (and I'd much rather buy the much smaller & cheaper 300PF than a 300/4 Pro)
p.1 #19 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
2of9 wrote:
It's exciting news. I'm glad Nikon is finally stepping into the mirrorless 'crop sensor' game.
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Same sensor as the D500 is super intriguing.
It much depends on price and on mount. F-mount? Z mount? or another (the 3rd one) Nikkor mount?
Z mount has a large diameter and therefore would compromise body compactness.
p.1 #20 · NR: Nikon Z50 Mirrorless APS-C Camera To Be Announced Soon
Ripolini wrote:
It much depends on price and on mount. F-mount? Z mount? or another (the 3rd one) Nikkor mount?
Z mount has a large diameter and therefore would compromise body compactness.
