In the end, the success of it comes down to one thing, the resulting AF tracking hit rate. If it fails on that, none of the specs will help. If it succeeds on that, Canon is still in the game.
Is it just me or these "development announcements" are completely goofy nowadays? Especially when they going to release the damn thing in a couple of months? I mean it's not 2001 anymore, when every new product was a breakthrough in technology and features.
It's a signal to customers as well. The cards for Nikon and Sony for their flagships are on the table now so it's good to get it out. With customers, also think of large press agencies that are planning ahead.
edge to edge AF coverage
Great video specs
Built in Wifi
Faster FPS rate
So far I am in for one, using the 90D for a bit, looks like that tech will be on steroids in the Mark III. The package looks similar but looks like some major changes. Looking for the full specs. My 400mm f2.8 will love this thing.
Pixel Perfect wrote:
To be clear that's for liveview only we didn't really get AF specs or sensor specs.
True, I am basing if of the 90D usage which I liked that feature using it. First camera I have used tracking that close to the edge. Great for video needs. So just glad it is added to this model. I assume the AF specs will not disappoint me anyway.
I wonder why they didn't reveal sensor resolution and number of AF points in OVF mode? It's not like they didn't reveal a ton of info and surely too late to be changing major specs like the sensor res. Also will it get digic 9?
Of course tempted to trade in my 1DXII, but I already started to invest in RF gear. Maybe trade in both 1DX2 and 5d4.
The AF performance will be the most interesting to watch. Why they kept those Casio 80s style top lcd? Why not like use those like the Eos R?
CFexpress means my CFasts cards in 1DX2 will be useless, but so are CF cards for 1DX2 and 5D4. At least the old battery still works. The increase in buffer and speed will be fun to see.
BT and built in WiFi is expected. I love using it on R and RP, where you can access the images even when the camera is turned off. Can assume touch screen for menus will be there too.
Pixel Perfect wrote:
I wonder why they didn't reveal sensor resolution and number of AF points in OVF mode? It's not like they didn't reveal a ton of info and surely too late to be changing major specs like the sensor res. Also will it get digic 9?
Probably keep some specs to reveal once they launch. MP, ISO ?IBIS etc.
So the most intriguing thing is the new AF-ON button that looks to have a touch sensor in the middle of it. So it likely acts to control the AF point movement (as hinted in the press release) and activate AF. If it works well that may be a nice feature. However, it really isn't that different than Nikon and Sony allowing the joystick to be used as an AF-ON button. But looks like a novel way to do it....and maybe will work better as I've never got on with being able to reliably, on the fly, push the joystick on Nikon and Sony straight in. This new method reverses the priority so that pushing the button will always work no matter how you stab at it...but the problem is what stops you from accidentally moving the AF point when you quickly stab at the button to react quickly...almost the opposite problem I have with the Nikon/Sony joysticks.
edge to edge AF coverage
Great video specs
Built in Wifi
Faster FPS rate
So far I am in for one, using the 90D for a bit, looks like that tech will be on steroids in the Mark III. The package looks similar but looks like some major changes. Looking for the full specs. My 400mm f2.8 will love this thing.
If they gave it a flip screen it would have been a huge win with the LV, DPAF, 20FPS silent etc....I know pros hate flip screens....but man, I think the Nikon implementation is rugged enough for any type of use when not deployed....but maybe it is a weather sealing issue?
Pixel Perfect wrote:
To be clear that's for liveview only we didn't really get AF specs or sensor specs.
Could have sworn I saw something about 525 AF points covering roughly 90% of the sensor. Though with the EOS R claiming to have 5,000+ AF points, I don't know what to make of things.
To me this announcement is underwhelming unless Canon can reach that 16fps with at least 28-30megapixels. Otherwise it's not really an upgrade to me when they aren't even caught up with Sony. Hopefully it will have that touchscreen ability we've seen with other new Canon cameras as well, and it will need to be priced more competitively.
I think bigger news is actually the additional price drop on the EOS R. I think this is going to signal a more professional mirrorless pro body like An EOS Rx or 5D5 being announced very, very soon with shipping before Christmas.
Pixel Perfect wrote:
I wonder why they didn't reveal sensor resolution and number of AF points in OVF mode? It's not like they didn't reveal a ton of info and surely too late to be changing major specs like the sensor res. Also will it get digic 9?
If I was a betting man, I'd say those two specs didn't change from 1DXII. I would wish for more MPs but # of AF points is really just a made up number anyways...AF sensors aren't made of points, they are made of lines. The 1DXII already has more selectable AF points than Nikon. What goes on behind the scenes in the area those 61 points sample from should be more important. So the other AF improvements they are hinting at, including the better AF sensor for OVF and Deep Learning will mean more for the camera than making up fake AF point numbers like Nikon does.
Andrew J wrote:
28x the resolution of the 1DxmkII? If it is 2x the resolution then its 80MP.
That is the AF sensor. And as PixelPerfect pointed out, most likely the iTR sensor that was only 0.36MP before so will jump to 9-10MPs. I don't believe the actual AF sensor has a specified resolution. That could mean a big improvement in OVF face recognition and priority of moving subjects like Nikon has in their AF algorithms in D500, D850, D5. All good news. But the actual sensor resolution will likely be unchanged or at most an extra 2MPs...not mentioning it in this press release doesn't bode well for a big jump to 28MP+ as the rumors were saying. But we now know just about everything in the recent rumors were incorrect meaning the rumors were made up...no IBIS, no new battery, etc...
arbitrage wrote:
So the most intriguing thing is the new AF-ON button that looks to have a touch sensor in the middle of it. So it likely acts to control the AF point movement (as hinted in the press release) and activate AF. If it works well that may be a nice feature. However, it really isn't that different than Nikon and Sony allowing the joystick to be used as an AF-ON button. But looks like a novel way to do it....and maybe will work better as I've never got on with being able to reliably, on the fly, push the joystick on Nikon and Sony straight in. This new method reverses the priority so that pushing the button will always work no matter how you stab at it...but the problem is what stops you from accidentally moving the AF point when you quickly stab at the button to react quickly...almost the opposite problem I have with the Nikon/Sony joysticks....Show more →
The AF-ON appears to be Canon implementing their touch-bar technology from the EOS R while leaving the toggle in place at the top and on the vertical grip.
