p.58 #1 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
Zayne12 wrote:
Has anyone thought of or used the stc magnetic clip in filters with this lens? Maybe it could be an option or maybe just a recipe for disaster.
Stay away from it. The glass is too thick and field curvature becomes unmanageable, especially at the wide range.
p.58 #2 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
Jman13 wrote:
Chuck, I have the Nisi with landscape CPol, but I do not want to shell out another few hundred for an ND+polarizer, and I don't want to have to change the screw in filters in the field....I keep my NISI with the dedicated cap on it so I never need to worry about attaching and removing it.
Jordan,
Since the majority of the time I only need the CPL I also have the NiSi cap on mine as well with the Landscape CPL attached ready to go. But I really don't find changing the round filters very difficult in the field. I've even been very successful on extremely cold days wearing my photography gloves. You do need to be careful but I find it easier than changing my smaller screw on filters for 67mm and 77mm lenses. The cost is definitely understandable and if they could develop a variable ND&CPL combo filter it may make it a more practical solution albeit still a pricey one.
p.58 #3 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
Chuck Coyne wrote:
Jordan,
You do not need to have the square filter holder for the NiSi system ND filters as they are round screw in filters. See the picture of the three that I use below. The ND64&CPL filter is a nice combo filter giving you a CPL that you can rotate for the proper effect with the 6-stop ND filter effect combined in a single round filter. I also find that the round CPL filter alone provides enough of a darkening effect when used at very low ISO 50-100 for most waterfalls. It would great if NiSi comes out some day with a variable density ND&CPL combo filter for this system. I was hoping that the Kase rear filters sound be used with the NiSi CPL and ND64&CPL to provide some additional ND effect options but they are just not practical in use....Show more →
Okay - I'm confused and need some help here. I thought the Nisi V6 was a 100mm holder. Is that what you are using for the 14-24? Dave
p.58 #5 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
dbehrens wrote:
Okay - I'm confused and need some help here. I thought the Nisi V6 was a 100mm holder. Is that what you are using for the 14-24? Dave
We're talking about the Nisi S5 - Takes 150mm round filters (and has a rotation gear for polarizers), plus another snap on 150x150mm square filter holder if you want to use that too.
p.58 #6 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
Jman13 wrote:
We're talking about the Nisi S5 - Takes 150mm round filters (and has a rotation gear for polarizers), plus another snap on 150x150mm square filter holder if you want to use that too.
p.58 #7 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
Chuck Coyne wrote:
Jordan,
Since the majority of the time I only need the CPL I also have the NiSi cap on mine as well with the Landscape CPL attached ready to go. But I really don't find changing the round filters very difficult in the field. I've even been very successful on extremely cold days wearing my photography gloves. You do need to be careful but I find it easier than changing my smaller screw on filters for 67mm and 77mm lenses. The cost is definitely understandable and if they could develop a variable ND&CPL combo filter it may make it a more practical solution albeit still a pricey one....Show more →
In contrast, I really dislike changing the circular filter on the S5 system. For me it's by far the most awkward and time-consuming aspect of that system.
Because the filters are screwed into a rotating ring, I find it hard to screw in or out at times. And the rotation also means I can't easily tell if the filter is screwed in properly, which raises concerns about dropping the filter, especially being such a large piece of glass that has to be handled without getting finger prints on it. Dismounting the adapter and keeping the filter horizontal in the process is pretty much essential for me. making the whole process very slow.
Fortunately I have found that I can nearly always get by without filter changes by using just the CPL+ND64 pre-mounted in the adapter with caps. I just rotate the polarizer to be ineffective when I want ND only. I do have a CPL-only coming in the next few days because I found a used one at a reasonable price, but I expect to use it only rarely when the slower shutter speed with the ND64 would be problematic. It might also be a good option to combine with the upcoming Aurora rear ND filters if they are easy to mount and dismount.
p.58 #8 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
I have a 150mm for my 12-24 Sony and waiting on a Sigma frame but I won’t ever be changing filters on it . I’ll go CPL on the front only. My ND will be a rear filter
p.58 #9 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
I brought mine out this weekend with the Kase 10-Stop ND rear filter.
Overall, super happy with the lens. No complaints in any respect. I do wish it had a distance scale and full mechanical manual focus so I could focus at hyperfocal before setting up the shot, but other than that it is preferable to and easily replaces my previous loxia 21 and batis 18.
The Kase filter is not perfect, I had zero problems with installation or breakage, however it just doesn't quite have the same zing, there is some image degradation. Putting anything AFTER the light has already passed through $1399 of sigma engineering can't possibly NOT degrade the image unless the filters are made to the exact same level as the elements in the lens. I'm guessing that front filters are easier to implement with zero degradation because they are filtering unbent naturally traveling light before it hits all the weird light bendy science stuff in the lens.
Are the results acceptable? Absolutely, I don't see too much wrong with these photos at normal viewing resolution! They are certainly more than instagrammable. I will keep my Kase filter and use it for backpacking, because there is no front mount system on earth that is as light as these Kase rear mount filters.
I am going to move to the Nisi S5 system in front though for use anytime weight and size is not a factor.
p.58 #10 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
NatDeroxL7 wrote:
I brought mine out this weekend with the Kase 10-Stop ND rear filter.
Overall, super happy with the lens. No complaints in any respect. I do wish it had a distance scale and full mechanical manual focus so I could focus at hyperfocal before setting up the shot, but other than that it is preferable to and easily replaces my previous loxia 21 and batis 18.
The Kase filter is not perfect, I had zero problems with installation or breakage, however it just doesn't quite have the same zing, there is some image degradation. Putting anything AFTER the light has already passed through $1399 of sigma engineering can't possibly NOT degrade the image unless the filters are made to the exact same level as the elements in the lens. I'm guessing that front filters are easier to implement with zero degradation because they are filtering unbent naturally traveling light before it hits all the weird light bendy science stuff in the lens.
Are the results acceptable? Absolutely, I don't see too much wrong with these photos at normal viewing resolution! They are certainly more than instagrammable. I will keep my Kase filter and use it for backpacking, because there is no front mount system on earth that is as light as these Kase rear mount filters.
I am going to move to the Nisi S5 system in front though for use anytime weight and size is not a factor.
I don't see image degradation in the center aside from a slightly color shift which is normal with most filters but I see no change in resolution / contrast.
At the corners, I see a very slight field curvature effect at 14-17mm and f/2.8 (wide open) but not at longer focal lengths. When shooting at 14-17mm and stopping down to f/5.6, the ill-effect is completely masked. (At f/4, I have to use 2:1 magnification to see any change in the corners)
So, when using the Kase ND filters (or Aurora since they have the same thickness) I would advise on stopping the lens down to at least 1 stop when shooting at the wide range.
p.58 #14 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
Hi guys,
I am wondering whether as some of you I guess it was Fred made a custom circular polarizer solution for Sony 12-24 lens with the tape and 77 mm filter whether something similar is not possible on the Sigma 14-24 lens.
Based on what I read it is an amazing lens however I can hardly swallow the idea that huge polarizer with dedicated holder costs almost additional 50% of the actual cost of the lens.
Thank you!
lukas
p.58 #15 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
I'm able to get down to about 19-20mm with a similar "trick"
I have a Breakthrough Photography 77mm Dark CPL with a 77mm Xume filter adapter attached and run a very thin strip of gaffer tape around the circumference of the Xume adapter. I push this into the lens hood and I can get to about 19mm or 20mm without vignetting. I try to stick to 20mm so I do not damage the lens. Alternatively, I have 77mm MRC B&W Slim CPL with Xume attached (plus gaffer tape) which works in the same way but is a good option in the event I have a rear ND filter installed. I only just tried this out but it seems to work. So my options now are: Rear ND down to 14mm, ND + polarizer down to 19mm, polarizer down to 19mm.
update: I think I may have used 2 strips of gaffer tape, one on top of the other.
p.58 #16 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
Thanks mate.
By any chance could you share the pics of your setup? Are you able to rotate polarizer?
Thank you
alexands wrote:
I'm able to get down to about 19-20mm with a similar "trick"
I have a Breakthrough Photography 77mm Dark CPL with a 77mm Xume filter adapter attached and run a very thin strip of gaffer tape around the circumference of the Xume adapter. I push this into the lens hood and I can get to about 19mm or 20mm without vignetting. I try to stick to 20mm so I do not damage the lens. Alternatively, I have 77mm MRC B&W Slim CPL with Xume attached (plus gaffer tape) which works in the same way but is a good option in the event I have a rear ND filter installed. I only just tried this out but it seems to work. So my options now are: Rear ND down to 14mm, ND + polarizer down to 19mm.
update: I think I may have used 2 strips of gaffer tape, one on top of the other. ...Show more →
I'm sure there are other solutions too. Most of the time, I'm unlikely to want to use both a polarizer and a ND filter at the same time and those times I do, I will make do with 19-20mm as the widest focal length.
I'm sure there are other solutions too. Most of the time, I'm unlikely to want to use both a polarizer and a ND filter at the same time and those times I do, I will make do with 19-20mm as the widest focal length.
Many thanks again mate.
One part is still not clear to me which is the application of xume filter holder. What is its purpose? Wouldn't it work just with polarizer itself?
Thank you!
p.58 #20 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions
The Xume filter holder is just a spacer to keep the filter from hitting the bulbous front lens element when I insert it and to ensure it sits evenly on all sides.
You may want to wait to apply the gaffer tape until you have a sense of how far you can reduce the focal length before the front element makes contact with the filter. Once the gaffer tape is applied, the filter is snug and the risk of damage is greater.
Note: Yes, I can rotate both the polarizer and the Dark CPL. This is another benefit of the Xume filter - it gives me some surface area to apply the gaffer tape without limiting the circular movement of the filters.
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