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Here is a Demo video. https://www.facebook.com/159829494547661/posts/663754640821808/?vh=e&d=n


Dec 18, 2019 at 06:38 AM
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lkunl wrote:
I just found Kase rear ND filter for Sigma 14-24 DG DN on ebay. It has exact same shape as gel filter as Sigma guide. It must be thin as gel filter to put it on slot. Even Haida also change filter shape to fit it easy. https://www.kasecn.com/en/newsshow.aspx?ID=1643


It looks too thick from the images. (same as Haida) which means it could be 0.5mm+ and that would alter field curvature behavior. (sharp center and OOF corners at the wide range)
As a comparison gel filters are ~0.1mm and have no effect on FC. So far from what's available only the Aurora will be glass and thin enough.



Dec 18, 2019 at 09:56 AM
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p.43 #3 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Someone asked that question on their Facebook page:








Dec 18, 2019 at 10:06 AM
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p.43 #4 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


That’s me.
I hope to see Aurora Final product soon.



Dec 18, 2019 at 11:17 AM
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lkunl wrote:
That’s me.
I hope to see Aurora Final product soon.


So far, crickets!



Dec 18, 2019 at 11:52 PM
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It looks too thick from the images. (same as Haida) which means it could be 0.5mm+ and that would alter field curvature behavior. (sharp center and OOF corners at the wide range)
As a comparison gel filters are ~0.1mm and have no effect on FC. So far from what's available only the Aurora will be glass and thin enough.


Just got this email from Kase. How thick is Aurora?








Dec 19, 2019 at 01:37 AM
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p.43 #7 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


docsmiles17 wrote:
Just got this email from Kase. How thick is Aurora?


That's actually surprising. Same as Aurora. Haida told me theirs is 0.5mm.



Dec 19, 2019 at 10:28 AM
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p.43 #8 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


I just contacted Kase filters. Hopefully I can get their new rear filters for testing.
Fred



Dec 19, 2019 at 11:41 AM
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I just contacted Kase filters. Hopefully I can get their new rear filters for testing.
Fred


Nice!!
If/when you get a reply and/or test them, keep me posted.

I havent used rear filters for landscapes. As I understand, they are more fragile, can cause field curvature and I presume a bit inconvenient to change by removing lens but having much smaller filters to carry is a big plus.

Am I missing something more here with rears that I should be aware of?

Kase does also offer this. Interesting but 170mm









Dec 19, 2019 at 12:36 PM
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p.43 #10 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


docsmiles17 wrote:
Nice!!
If/when you get a reply and/or test them, keep me posted.

I havent used rear filters for landscapes. As I understand, they are more fragile, can cause field curvature and I presume a bit inconvenient to change by removing lens but having much smaller filters to carry is a big plus.

Am I missing something more here with rears that I should be aware of?

Kase does also offer this. Interesting but 170mm


As long as the thickness is around 0.1-0.2mm (gel or film filters), field curvature remains unaffected even at the wide range wide open.
0.3mm is pushing the limits but works quite well when I tested the Aurora 0.3mm rear NDs. Anything thicker than that will cause adverse effects on field curvature.

So far we have the following rear ND filter options for the Sigma 14-24 E-mount:

  1. Aurora NDs: 0.3mm | Aurora light pollution: 0.5mm (Both scheduled for Jan. 2020)
  2. Kodak and Lee NDs (gel/film): ~ 0.1-0.2mm
  3. Kase NDs (0.3mm - to be confirmed)
  4. Haida rear NDs (0.5mm - to be confirmed)
  5. Mount slip-on NDs (1mm) -- Too thick (not recommended)



Dec 19, 2019 at 02:18 PM
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p.43 #11 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


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Haida rear NDs (0.5mm - to be confirmed)


I've measured the Haida filters with a caliper. They are exactly 0.5mm. Therefore I can confirm the value above.




Dec 19, 2019 at 03:12 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I just contacted Kase filters. Hopefully I can get their new rear filters for testing.
Fred


Me too.




Dec 19, 2019 at 03:13 PM
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p.43 #13 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


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Kodak and Lee NDs (gel/film): ~ 0.1-0.2mm


According to my caliper measurement (precision +-0.05mm) the Lee filter foil has a thickness of 0.1mm.




Dec 19, 2019 at 03:19 PM
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p.43 #14 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Bobu wrote:
According to my caliper measurement (precision +-0.05mm) the Lee filter foil has a thickness of 0.1mm.



Thanks!



Dec 19, 2019 at 03:35 PM
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p.43 #15 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Bobu wrote:
I've measured the Haida filters with a caliper. They are exactly 0.5mm. Therefore I can confirm the value above.



I've tested the earlier 0.5mm Aurora prototype and induced FC was pronounced at 14mm. The Haida having the same thickness is out of the question for me.

It looks like the current contenders will be: Kase and Aurora. (the former's thickness to be confirmed)



Dec 19, 2019 at 03:38 PM
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p.43 #16 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


I have the Haida at home but I will wait until either the Kase or Aurora filters arrive before doing any serious testing.


Dec 19, 2019 at 03:51 PM
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p.43 #17 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Teaser video from Aurora: (Sigma 14-24/2.8 rear ND and LPR filter magnetic prototype)




Dec 21, 2019 at 11:40 AM
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p.43 #18 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Hi guys

Just posted at Lenstip (Optyczne.pl). The awaited Sigma 14-24 f2,8 DG DN review. It is in polish, still not translated to english at Lenstip. Use Google translate.

https://www.optyczne.pl/491.1-Test_obiektywu-Sigma_A_14-24_mm_f_2.8_DG_DN.html



Dec 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM
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Curiously this is the second unit they test. The fisrt one was badly misaligned (too often for this 14-24 model). In this occasion the 24 mm FL is the strongest, contrary to what was commented in this FM post.


Dec 22, 2019 at 12:02 PM
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p.43 #20 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


JeyB wrote:
Curiously this is the second unit they test. The fisrt one was badly misaligned (too often for this 14-24 model). In this occasion the 24 mm FL is the strongest, contrary to what was commented in this FM post.


It seems possible that the FM post with 14 as the strongest is only at infinity and that 24mm is better at closer distances, since chart testing doesn't measure resolution at infinity.



Dec 22, 2019 at 12:44 PM
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