p.4 #2Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
No, they are not. The pictures didn’t show anything I don’t know about the lens or show there are no problems as I mentioned about 85G. Nobody say 85G can’t make good images. We are talking about difference here and the only objective is: is there difference in performance. The answer is yes.
Sharpness was never a weakness of any 85mm in last 15 years. Even 85f1.8d is sharp.
Ripolini wrote:
In my previous post I gave a link to pictures taken with the 85G. Those pictures speak more than thousands words.
p.4 #3Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
zhangyue wrote:
35mm S is way underrated glass.
Provided one gets a well manufactured copy I totally agree with you. I don't find it exceptional in any way, but I also can't find any significant fault about it either. I can't think of any single feature of it that I'd describe as below average. One word that comes to my mind is "balanced".
p.4 #6Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
35mm is historically difficult focal to design. Until now, there is no lens at this focal as perfect as 50/85/135/200andup. Maybe Milvus is close but it is huge and heavy. And new sigma f1.2 and tamron are good finally but also at size and weight.
This one is indeed well balanced. And again, after certain threshold level, sharpness is my least concern for modern lens. To evaluate glass performance, there are really a lot of other quality are way important for final image looks.
Actually The best way To describe these new Nikon Z f1.8 primes are well balanced. They take a well trade off between size weight performance and price. This single line will keep me in Z camp for foreseeable future. It is unique that nobody offers.
MayaTlab wrote: zhangyue wrote35mm S is way underrated glass.Provided one gets a well manufactured copy I totally agree with you. I don't find it exceptional in any way, but I also can't find any significant fault about it either. I can't think of any single feature of it that I'd describe as below average. One word that comes to my mind is "balanced".
p.4 #11Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
I pre-ordered one locally earlier this week, got the email notification that it's available earlier morning, and have it mounted on the Z7 now.
Based upon a few quick nothing-shots, it looks good. Really good.
Time will tell more, but it looks like it performs in the league with the 50S, with impressive sharpness across the frame, even wide open, and very little noticeable longitudinal CA or fringing on purple fringing on bright objects.
Nice smooth bokeh fall-off and really nice overall bokeh in my limited use so far.
Straight out of the camera, using Neutral picture control from the Snapbridge downloaded jpg...the focus point (on the eye) is “Z7 critically sharp” in the full size nef.
p.4 #14Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
zhangyue wrote:
No, they are not. The pictures didn’t show anything I don’t know about the lens or show there are no problems as I mentioned about 85G. Nobody say 85G can’t make good images. We are talking about difference ...
Those pictures not only show that the 85G is a solid performer; they tell that excellent images depend mostly on the photographer. A skilled photographer can produce images equally good with D750+85G or Z6+85Z. As I said previously, the main advantage of the Z combo is IBIS. I mean, this is the main advantage for those interested in taking pictures, not in pixel-peeping.
Take care 😊
p.4 #15Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
agreed, the S lenses appear to be similar to the 1.8G glass,
+ the corrections
+ sharp(er) across the frame
+ perfectly suitable for large mp bodies
+ greater ibis capability
+ better build altogether (including customization ring)
+ lesser copy variation
+ $$$$
p.4 #16Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
I have stated clearly about difference between the two. Now I just realize another AF motor noise for video shooting. 85G is fast but laud.
The logic of gear doesn’t matter is a false statement as we are discussing about technical spec of gear itself now.
Nobody says photographer is not the most important part of final image, but that is not the topic we are discussing. 85 AIS or 85d can both make top class images Just like 85G as well.
I personally don’t rate IBIS as a must have for portrait shooting at 85mm focal. For landscape, cityscape, yes, IBIS helps. For most formal portrait, I would guess most of people will at least use 1/125s to avoid subject blur.
The difference is not at pixel PP but overall authentic rendering of image under difficult condition. For example, I would imagine 85G will struggle at f1.8 with bride white dress under full sun back light condition for wedding photographer, the loCA will ruin the image but 85S most likely will be fine under the same condition. Like anything good in life, You just have to pay for the service.
Again, we don’t even need 85G to make good photos, but I don’t see that is relevant here.
Ripolini wrote: zhangyue wroteNo, they are not. The pictures didn’t show anything I don’t know about the lens or show there are no problems as I mentioned about 85G. Nobody say 85G can’t make good images. We are talking about difference ...Those pictures not only show that the 85G is a solid performer; they tell that excellent images depend mostly on the photographer. A skilled photographer can produce images equally good with D750+85G or Z6+85Z. As I said previously, the main advantage of the Z combo is IBIS. I mean, this is the main advantage for those interested in taking pictures, not in pixel-peeping.
Take care 😊
p.4 #18Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
shekarn64 wrote:
Thank you for posting this, I was most interested to see how the 1.8 S compares to the 1.4 G and this was a pretty good comparison of the two. The 1.8 S has far less CA and has very smooth focus transition, but with the recent announcement of the 85 1.2 S coming out next year, I might just keep my current 85 and wait for the 1.2, my only hope is that Nikon doesn't go overboard with the price of the 1.2 S lenses. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Unless there's something weird that happens (like this problem visible in some of the 50 S' samples, which cause remains undetermined : https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4415177), or excessive sample variation, I feel that this might be one of the easiest lenses to review ever.
p.4 #20Pre-order: Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.8 S Lens ($796.95)
wjmeyer wrote: shekarn64 wrote....but with the recent announcement of the 85 1.2 S coming out next year, I might just keep my current 85 and wait for the 1.2, my only hope is that Nikon doesn't go overboard with the price of the 1.2 S lenses. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
The “leaked” roadmap was sent from an anonymous with no verification whatsoever. For All I know, it could just be someone wish list.
But yes, 85mm f1.2 should be on Nikon’s roadmap. You can probably buy the 24, 35, 50, and 85mm f1.8S collection for the price of an 85mm f1.2S.