Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
p.45 #1Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Fred Miranda gave us a fine list on p. 8, #18:
Which lens is better? Voigtlander 21/1.4 or Loxia 21/2.8?
I think a key issue missing from the list is that the Loxia 21mm is well weather sealed, and the Voigtlander 21mm Nokton is not at all weather sealed. Sometimes that is a big factor in favor of the Loxia.
I don't have any difficulty mounting or dismounting Loxias, but I have ordered two Lens-Grips from PocketPano for possible more safety.
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Which lens is better? Voigtlander 21/1.4 or Loxia 21/2.8?
I think a key issue missing from the list is that the Loxia 21mm is well weather sealed, and the Voigtlander 21mm Nokton is not at all weather sealed. Sometimes that is a big factor in favor of the Loxia.
I don't have any difficulty mounting or dismounting Loxias, but I have ordered two Lens-Grips from PocketPano for possible more safety.
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Jun 05, 2022 at 10:10 AM
p.45 #2Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
The comparison I find most interesting would be the Sony 12-24mm f/2.8 GM at 21mm vs. the Voigtlander 21mm Nokton f/1.4. Since I have both lenses, maybe I should do it myself, but Fred's testing, if he has the time and inclination, would likely be more comprehensive and far more authoritative.
A nonobvious advantage of the Sony would be its weather sealing; to me an advantage of the Voigtlander would be its sunstars.
A nonobvious advantage of the Sony would be its weather sealing; to me an advantage of the Voigtlander would be its sunstars.
Jun 05, 2022 at 01:56 PM
p.45 #3Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
While I do not intentionally try to get them, the 12-24GM can certainly make sun stars…
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Jun 06, 2022 at 01:03 PM
p.45 #4Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
JerryFusselman wrote:
Which lens is better? Voigtlander 21/1.4 or Loxia 21/2.8?I think a key issue missing from the list is that the Loxia 21mm is well weather sealed, and the Voigtlander 21mm Nokton is not at all weather sealed. Sometimes that is a big factor in favor of the Loxia.
I don't have any difficulty mounting or dismounting Loxias, but I have ordered two Lens-Grips from PocketPano for possible more safety.
The Loxia is only weather sealed at the mount. It does not mean much if water drops on the lens.
Earlier quote
Fred Miranda gave us a fine list on p. 8, #18:Which lens is better? Voigtlander 21/1.4 or Loxia 21/2.8?
I don't have any difficulty mounting or dismounting Loxias, but I have ordered two Lens-Grips from PocketPano for possible more safety.
The Loxia is only weather sealed at the mount. It does not mean much if water drops on the lens.
Jun 06, 2022 at 01:06 PM
p.45 #5Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Grenache wrote:
While I do not intentionally try to get them, the 12-24GM can certainly make sun stars…
To me, the sun stars of the 21mm Voigtlander Nokton are superior; I almost always prefer 12-point sun stars to 18-point. (That's why I had used the phrases "to me" and "its sunstars".) Fred points out that Voigtlander's sun stars are even possible starting at f/2 for night scenes, which I find delightful. Great painters have long used sun stars to help give the impression of glow, such as for "The Starry Night".
Fred Miranda wrote:
The Loxia is only weather sealed at the mount. It does not mean much if water drops on the lens.
Thanks, Fred, I hadn't noticed that it is only at the mount. Zeiss explicitly says so. But the mount is the most vulnerable spot, for one example quote of many: "The lens mount is the most vulnerable point for water entry during foul weather use."
Perfect weather sealing for a lens is nearly impossible, but some lenses are better sealed than others. The Loxia 21mm is much better sealed than the Voigtlander 21mm, agreed? (I am imagining a tightly fitted rain cape on the lens, and using an A1.)
While I do not intentionally try to get them, the 12-24GM can certainly make sun stars…
To me, the sun stars of the 21mm Voigtlander Nokton are superior; I almost always prefer 12-point sun stars to 18-point. (That's why I had used the phrases "to me" and "its sunstars".) Fred points out that Voigtlander's sun stars are even possible starting at f/2 for night scenes, which I find delightful. Great painters have long used sun stars to help give the impression of glow, such as for "The Starry Night".
Fred Miranda wrote:
The Loxia is only weather sealed at the mount. It does not mean much if water drops on the lens.
Thanks, Fred, I hadn't noticed that it is only at the mount. Zeiss explicitly says so. But the mount is the most vulnerable spot, for one example quote of many: "The lens mount is the most vulnerable point for water entry during foul weather use."
Perfect weather sealing for a lens is nearly impossible, but some lenses are better sealed than others. The Loxia 21mm is much better sealed than the Voigtlander 21mm, agreed? (I am imagining a tightly fitted rain cape on the lens, and using an A1.)
Jun 07, 2022 at 08:13 AM
p.45 #7Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
The Voigtlander 21mm f1.4 is not the most perfect 21mm in the market but the size, build construction and IQ make it my favorite.
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Sep 24, 2022 at 04:44 PM
p.45 #9Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Great pictures Lightsearcher! I visited London recently with my 24 GM and CV 40, but would’ve loved a 21 for some of my street & architecture shots.
Dec 13, 2022 at 10:34 AM
p.45 #10Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
akashyap wrote:
Great pictures Lightsearcher! I visited London recently with my 24 GM and CV 40, but would’ve loved a 21 for some of my street & architecture shots.
Thank you for the kind words, I travel now with three primes Voigtlander 21mm, 40mm and Nikon 105mm AIS but the 21mm is the most used specially for architecture shots.
Great pictures Lightsearcher! I visited London recently with my 24 GM and CV 40, but would’ve loved a 21 for some of my street & architecture shots.
Thank you for the kind words, I travel now with three primes Voigtlander 21mm, 40mm and Nikon 105mm AIS but the 21mm is the most used specially for architecture shots.
Dec 13, 2022 at 06:53 PM
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p.45 #11Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Lightsearcher wrote:
Thank you for the kind words, I travel now with three primes Voigtlander 21mm, 40mm and Nikon 105mm AIS but the 21mm is the most used specially for architecture shots.
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpg
These are superb shots of my favorite city.
akashyap wrote
Great pictures Lightsearcher! I visited London recently with my 24 GM and CV 40, but would’ve loved a 21 for some of my street & architecture shots.https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpg
These are superb shots of my favorite city.
Dec 14, 2022 at 06:31 PM
p.45 #12Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
MAubrey wrote:
Thank you for the kind words, I travel now with three primes Voigtlander 21mm, 40mm and Nikon 105mm AIS but the 21mm is the most used specially for architecture shots.
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpgThese are superb shots of my favorite city.
Thank you very much for the kind comment.
Lightsearcher wrote
akashyap wrote
Great pictures Lightsearcher! I visited London recently with my 24 GM and CV 40, but would’ve loved a 21 for some of my street & architecture shots.https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpg
Thank you very much for the kind comment.
Dec 15, 2022 at 02:49 PM
p.45 #13Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Lightsearcher wrote:
The Voigtlander 21mm f1.4 is not the most perfect 21mm in the market but ...
What is it missing for perfection?
The Voigtlander 21mm f1.4 is not the most perfect 21mm in the market but ...
What is it missing for perfection?
Dec 17, 2022 at 07:48 AM
p.45 #14Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
A7R2+Voigtlander Nokton 21/1.4 FE
Dec 22, 2022 at 03:16 AM
p.45 #15Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Ripolini wrote:
What is it missing for perfection?
Vignette in some circumstances bother me but some times it add character.
Lightsearcher wrote
The Voigtlander 21mm f1.4 is not the most perfect 21mm in the market but ...Vignette in some circumstances bother me but some times it add character.
Dec 24, 2022 at 10:08 AM
p.45 #17Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Lightsearcher wrote:
Vignette in some circumstances bother me but some times it add character
I think the design of modern lenses does sacrifice intentionally corner light fall-off to keep the size small (and lower manufacturing costs as well). CLF can be corrected in PP, being not an issue as it was during the film era.
Vignette in some circumstances bother me but some times it add character
I think the design of modern lenses does sacrifice intentionally corner light fall-off to keep the size small (and lower manufacturing costs as well). CLF can be corrected in PP, being not an issue as it was during the film era.
Dec 24, 2022 at 11:22 AM
p.45 #18Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Lightsearcher wrote:
Thank you for the kind words, I travel now with three primes Voigtlander 21mm, 40mm and Nikon 105mm AIS but the 21mm is the most used specially for architecture shots.
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpg
Amazing B&W samples! Thanks for sharing.
akashyap wrote
Great pictures Lightsearcher! I visited London recently with my 24 GM and CV 40, but would’ve loved a 21 for some of my street & architecture shots.https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpg
Amazing B&W samples! Thanks for sharing.
Jan 18, 2023 at 12:10 PM
p.45 #19Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
Thank you for the kind words, I travel now with three primes Voigtlander 21mm, 40mm and Nikon 105mm AIS but the 21mm is the most used specially for architecture shots.
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpgAmazing B&W samples! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Fred, I am glad you like it.
Lightsearcher wrote
akashyap wrote
Great pictures Lightsearcher! I visited London recently with my 24 GM and CV 40, but would’ve loved a 21 for some of my street & architecture shots.https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636886-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322636827-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322790772-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322764011-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322637766-6.jpg
https://marcelobarrera.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1322638330-6.jpg
Thank you Fred, I am glad you like it.
Jan 18, 2023 at 09:03 PM
p.45 #20Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Once again a FM review has left my wallet lighter.
I get this lens tomorrow from B&H and wanted to thank everyone here who had a part in reviewing, commenting and sharing examples. I'm looking forward to adding this lens to my growing CV stable of fine lenses.
I get this lens tomorrow from B&H and wanted to thank everyone here who had a part in reviewing, commenting and sharing examples. I'm looking forward to adding this lens to my growing CV stable of fine lenses.
Feb 01, 2023 at 09:36 PM