Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
p.28 #1Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:
It would be nice if it's a screw in hood like the CV 40 f1.2. It's so convenient to just turn the hood to turn the CPL, without removing the hood in order to turn the CPL. I ordered a cheapo 62mm screw in hood from China to try out, it may cause vignetting though. Hope it doesn't come with the virus....
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
It would be nice if it's a screw in hood like the CV 40 f1.2. It's so convenient to just turn the hood to turn the CPL, without removing the hood in order to turn the CPL. I ordered a cheapo 62mm screw in hood from China to try out, it may cause vignetting though. Hope it doesn't come with the virus....
Jan 22, 2020 at 02:55 PM
p.28 #2Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Hardcore wrote:
No, it’s a live view mode on the Nikon to be able to zoom in on 2 parts of the image at once. Great for confirming hyperfocal and if both near and far objects are both in focus . Hope that makes sense.
Great idea! Wish my Sony had it!
No, it’s a live view mode on the Nikon to be able to zoom in on 2 parts of the image at once. Great for confirming hyperfocal and if both near and far objects are both in focus . Hope that makes sense.
sismailian wrote
Ah good to know. When you say split focus, you mean focus stacking, one shot for background and one for foreground?Hardcore wrote
I find at f8 -f11 I’m just a bit past the 3m mark towards infinity. Split focus on the z6 works well for this.sismailian wrote
I am a bit curious after seeing these gorgeous landscape shots where you guys focus be at. Particularly on the lens where is your focus at distance wise? 3 meters? My first time using it near 3 meters seemed to be bit too close to focus and did not get the background in focus in similar landscape shot with the sun in the frame.Great idea! Wish my Sony had it!
Jan 22, 2020 at 02:56 PM
p.28 #3Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
pdmphoto wrote:
Frankly I think that hyperfocal focussing, or in general relying on DOF to get everything sharp, is often a mistake.
Generally speaking a landscape shot has some kind of focal thing. Focus on that. In many cases, most of it will be at infinity. So focus on infinity and let the foreground if there is any soften a little. Better that than a random place being the point of best focus.
If there is a piece of significant foreground interest, focus on that; better it's crisp, and the infinity component a touch less, than, again, neither is optimal which is what hyperfocal focussing often achieves.
And if you really really need a foreground and BG element both maximally sharp, focus stacking is your friend.I have found that when shooting at F8 - F11 you can pull focus back from infinity quite a bit before losing any sharpness at infinity. To each their own and what may work for some may not work for others but if I can, I'd rather shoot hyperlocal and get one shot with reasonably good sharpness vs shoot multiple focus and have to deal with movement and more post processing.Fair enough; of course by shooting at F8-11 you are, with most lenses, losing a little sharpness due to diffraction (and while you don't lose much sharpness by pulling back, you certainly lose some.)
But are either of these things significant enough to matter? Well, for many viewing sizes of finished images, no. And whatever workflow gets you the best images is a better workflow than the one which gets you the greatest sharpness at the expense of images!Stacking comes along with some issues as well, especially with movement between frames.
Of course; though when it works well it works very well; and if you have the right combination of source frames you can usually make it work, though the worse the movement or alignment issues, the more work it'll be. Sometimes, in the field, you have no choice but to stop right down (though there may be movement and light issues associated with that of course - and if you have a tripod then stacking is easier, and if there is too much movement of foliage etc for that, it'll likely be blurred in a low ISO f11 frame).
The message is, whatever it takes. If you can only get the image you want in the circumstances with f11 or smaller, the image trumps a small technical side effect every time. And for people who don't enjoy work in post, f11 with the DOF they need is better than a wider single image without it.
DavidBM wrote
Hardcore wrote
DavidBM wrote
sismailian wrote
I am a bit curious after seeing these gorgeous landscape shots where you guys focus be at. Particularly on the lens where is your focus at distance wise? 3 meters? My first time using it near 3 meters seemed to be bit too close to focus and did not get the background in focus in similar landscape shot with the sun in the frame.Generally speaking a landscape shot has some kind of focal thing. Focus on that. In many cases, most of it will be at infinity. So focus on infinity and let the foreground if there is any soften a little. Better that than a random place being the point of best focus.
If there is a piece of significant foreground interest, focus on that; better it's crisp, and the infinity component a touch less, than, again, neither is optimal which is what hyperfocal focussing often achieves.
And if you really really need a foreground and BG element both maximally sharp, focus stacking is your friend.
But are either of these things significant enough to matter? Well, for many viewing sizes of finished images, no. And whatever workflow gets you the best images is a better workflow than the one which gets you the greatest sharpness at the expense of images!
Of course; though when it works well it works very well; and if you have the right combination of source frames you can usually make it work, though the worse the movement or alignment issues, the more work it'll be. Sometimes, in the field, you have no choice but to stop right down (though there may be movement and light issues associated with that of course - and if you have a tripod then stacking is easier, and if there is too much movement of foliage etc for that, it'll likely be blurred in a low ISO f11 frame).
The message is, whatever it takes. If you can only get the image you want in the circumstances with f11 or smaller, the image trumps a small technical side effect every time. And for people who don't enjoy work in post, f11 with the DOF they need is better than a wider single image without it.
Jan 22, 2020 at 05:30 PM
p.28 #4Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:
Looks like it bayonets on; indeed it would *have* to bayonet on as the rectangular opening has to be aligned correctly to prevent vignetting. I’m assuming that like other E lenses the E 1.4/21 has a screw in hood? I wish they would make bayonet ones (reversible) for E mount - of course that requires bayonet fittings on the lens, so could only be in future ones so it won’t happen. And need to be tight, not like Loxia ones!
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
Looks like it bayonets on; indeed it would *have* to bayonet on as the rectangular opening has to be aligned correctly to prevent vignetting. I’m assuming that like other E lenses the E 1.4/21 has a screw in hood? I wish they would make bayonet ones (reversible) for E mount - of course that requires bayonet fittings on the lens, so could only be in future ones so it won’t happen. And need to be tight, not like Loxia ones!
Jan 22, 2020 at 08:02 PM
p.28 #5Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
DavidBM wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:Looks like it bayonets on; indeed it would *have* to bayonet on as the rectangular opening has to be aligned correctly to prevent vignetting. I’m assuming that like other E lenses the E 1.4/21 has a screw in hood? I wish they would make bayonet ones (reversible) for E mount - of course that requires bayonet fittings on the lens, so could only be in future ones so it won’t happen. And need to be tight, not like Loxia ones!
The E-mount hood is reversible while the new M-mount is shorter. I think it's unlikely Voigtlander changed the bayonet mechanism for the M-mount version, so the new hood should fit on the E-mount version. (For those who want a more compact solution)
Fred Miranda wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
The E-mount hood is reversible while the new M-mount is shorter. I think it's unlikely Voigtlander changed the bayonet mechanism for the M-mount version, so the new hood should fit on the E-mount version. (For those who want a more compact solution)
Jan 22, 2020 at 08:21 PM
p.28 #6Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:
Yeah, it is a good question. Seems that the M-mount version's hood will be included with the lens and not sold separately though so it might be hard to get one. I'll try to check at CP+ on 3/1 if it is not known by then.
Recently I bought the 21/3.5 VM version for my Sigma FP 2nd hand (works great on it) so now I have 21/1.4 in E-mount + 21/3.5 in both E and VM
Not planning to buy this new 21/1.4 in VM though, I'm pretty well covered for 21mm already and I like to stick to small lenses with my M-mount set.
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
Yeah, it is a good question. Seems that the M-mount version's hood will be included with the lens and not sold separately though so it might be hard to get one. I'll try to check at CP+ on 3/1 if it is not known by then.
Recently I bought the 21/3.5 VM version for my Sigma FP 2nd hand (works great on it) so now I have 21/1.4 in E-mount + 21/3.5 in both E and VM
Not planning to buy this new 21/1.4 in VM though, I'm pretty well covered for 21mm already and I like to stick to small lenses with my M-mount set.Jan 22, 2020 at 09:01 PM
p.28 #7Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:Looks like it bayonets on; indeed it would *have* to bayonet on as the rectangular opening has to be aligned correctly to prevent vignetting. I’m assuming that like other E lenses the E 1.4/21 has a screw in hood? I wish they would make bayonet ones (reversible) for E mount - of course that requires bayonet fittings on the lens, so could only be in future ones so it won’t happen. And need to be tight, not like Loxia ones!The E-mount hood is reversible while the new M-mount is shorter. I think it's unlikely Voigtlander changed the bayonet mechanism for the M-mount version, so the new hood should fit on the E-mount version. (For those who want a more compact solution)
So the e mount version of the lens has a bayonet fitting for a hood? (I haven’t used the cv 21) most cv E mount lenses don’t...
DavidBM wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
So the e mount version of the lens has a bayonet fitting for a hood? (I haven’t used the cv 21) most cv E mount lenses don’t...
Jan 23, 2020 at 03:31 AM
p.28 #8Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
DavidBM wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:Looks like it bayonets on; indeed it would *have* to bayonet on as the rectangular opening has to be aligned correctly to prevent vignetting. I’m assuming that like other E lenses the E 1.4/21 has a screw in hood? I wish they would make bayonet ones (reversible) for E mount - of course that requires bayonet fittings on the lens, so could only be in future ones so it won’t happen. And need to be tight, not like Loxia ones!The E-mount hood is reversible while the new M-mount is shorter. I think it's unlikely Voigtlander changed the bayonet mechanism for the M-mount version, so the new hood should fit on the E-mount version. (For those who want a more compact solution)So the e mount version of the lens has a bayonet fitting for a hood? (I haven’t used the cv 21) most cv E mount lenses don’t...
Yeah, the 21/1.4 E-mount hood is different from all other CV E-mount lenses and the only reversible one. This manual shows the bayonet mechanism:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/english/manual/E%2021_14%20ENG%20V1_0.pdf
Fred Miranda wrote
DavidBM wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
Yeah, the 21/1.4 E-mount hood is different from all other CV E-mount lenses and the only reversible one. This manual shows the bayonet mechanism:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/english/manual/E%2021_14%20ENG%20V1_0.pdf
Jan 23, 2020 at 03:52 AM
p.28 #9Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Juha Kannisto wrote:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:Looks like it bayonets on; indeed it would *have* to bayonet on as the rectangular opening has to be aligned correctly to prevent vignetting. I’m assuming that like other E lenses the E 1.4/21 has a screw in hood? I wish they would make bayonet ones (reversible) for E mount - of course that requires bayonet fittings on the lens, so could only be in future ones so it won’t happen. And need to be tight, not like Loxia ones!The E-mount hood is reversible while the new M-mount is shorter. I think it's unlikely Voigtlander changed the bayonet mechanism for the M-mount version, so the new hood should fit on the E-mount version. (For those who want a more compact solution)So the e mount version of the lens has a bayonet fitting for a hood? (I haven’t used the cv 21) most cv E mount lenses don’t...Yeah, the 21/1.4 E-mount hood is different from all other CV E-mount lenses and the only reversible one. This manual shows the bayonet mechanism:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/english/manual/E%2021_14%20ENG%20V1_0.pdf
Awesome! I really wish they would do that with the others. But I guess they only did that because it is wide enough for a petal to be sensible, in which case it has to be aligned correctly, in which case you need a bayonet....
Edit. Of course there is a problem. If you want a reversible hood it has to be wider. But if its wider, and you want to preserve the same amount of shading, it needs to be longer. So there is a tradeoff between reversibility and length.
DavidBM wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
DavidBM wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
Product page was added in Cosina's website:http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/english/manual/E%2021_14%20ENG%20V1_0.pdf
Awesome! I really wish they would do that with the others. But I guess they only did that because it is wide enough for a petal to be sensible, in which case it has to be aligned correctly, in which case you need a bayonet....
Edit. Of course there is a problem. If you want a reversible hood it has to be wider. But if its wider, and you want to preserve the same amount of shading, it needs to be longer. So there is a tradeoff between reversibility and length.
Jan 23, 2020 at 07:31 PM
p.28 #10Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
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p.28 #11Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
From yesterday morning on the A77IV:
_DSC6957 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr
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p.28 #13Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
bobek13 wrote:
I got Nisi 75 and use it with my 21 color skopar - no issues so far... I am even considering a 12 or 15mm CV (shaving of the hood petals) and still use these filters - filter systems screw size is 67mm so I reckon any lens that has filter 67mm or less should work with no problems...
Confirming the 75mm works great on the nokton as well. I'm amazing at how tiny it is, perfect complement for a small kit imo.
I got Nisi 75 and use it with my 21 color skopar - no issues so far... I am even considering a 12 or 15mm CV (shaving of the hood petals) and still use these filters - filter systems screw size is 67mm so I reckon any lens that has filter 67mm or less should work with no problems...
Confirming the 75mm works great on the nokton as well. I'm amazing at how tiny it is, perfect complement for a small kit imo.
Jan 29, 2020 at 10:49 PM
p.28 #14Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
I have the VM one coming in about 4 weeks (or so I'm told) to use on my thin sensor A7RII. Will be able to compare it to the 21 Loxia on a stock A7RII and also a modded 21 Loxia suited to thin sensor Sony's. What a time to be alive.
Jan 30, 2020 at 02:54 AM
p.28 #15Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
benjimouse wrote:
Confirming the 75mm works great on the nokton as well. I'm amazing at how tiny it is, perfect complement for a small kit imo.
thanks for the info, that is great news for me as I`m looking for a nice 15mm CV :-)
Aleksander
bobek13 wrote
I got Nisi 75 and use it with my 21 color skopar - no issues so far... I am even considering a 12 or 15mm CV (shaving of the hood petals) and still use these filters - filter systems screw size is 67mm so I reckon any lens that has filter 67mm or less should work with no problems...thanks for the info, that is great news for me as I`m looking for a nice 15mm CV :-)
Aleksander
Jan 30, 2020 at 06:26 AM
p.28 #16Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:
Well, I experimented the third party screw-in hood on the CV 21 and the SIgma 24-70. The 62mm hood adds dark corners to the CV 21. the 82mm hood also adds dark corners at 24mm of the Sigma but it's gone after 24mm, I deem it unusable.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.
CV21
CV21
Sigma 24-70
Sigma 24-70
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
Well, I experimented the third party screw-in hood on the CV 21 and the SIgma 24-70. The 62mm hood adds dark corners to the CV 21. the 82mm hood also adds dark corners at 24mm of the Sigma but it's gone after 24mm, I deem it unusable.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.
CV21
CV21
Sigma 24-70
Sigma 24-70
Jan 30, 2020 at 08:41 AM
p.28 #17Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
kdrk888 wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:Well, I experimented the third party screw-in hood on the CV 21 and the SIgma 24-70. The 62mm hood adds dark corners to the CV 21. the 82mm hood also adds dark corners at 24mm of the Sigma but it's gone after 24mm, I deem it unusable.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.
Do wide shallow hoods like that really provide significant shading?
Fred Miranda wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.
Do wide shallow hoods like that really provide significant shading?
Jan 30, 2020 at 09:01 AM
p.28 #18Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
DaveFP wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:Well, I experimented the third party screw-in hood on the CV 21 and the SIgma 24-70. The 62mm hood adds dark corners to the CV 21. the 82mm hood also adds dark corners at 24mm of the Sigma but it's gone after 24mm, I deem it unusable.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.Do wide shallow hoods like that really provide significant shading?
I am not sure. Even the OEM hoods for WA lenses look pretty shallow and wide too.
kdrk888 wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.
I am not sure
. Even the OEM hoods for WA lenses look pretty shallow and wide too.Jan 30, 2020 at 09:07 AM
p.28 #19Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
kdrk888 wrote:
https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.htmlProduct page was added in Cosina's website:
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.I wonder if the new M-mount hood will also fit the E-mount since they share the same 62mm filter thread:Well, I experimented the third party screw-in hood on the CV 21 and the SIgma 24-70. The 62mm hood adds dark corners to the CV 21. the 82mm hood also adds dark corners at 24mm of the Sigma but it's gone after 24mm, I deem it unusable.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.Do wide shallow hoods like that really provide significant shading?I am not sure. Even the OEM hoods for WA lenses look pretty shallow and wide too.
True. I sometimes carry a small umbrella for the times I really need shade.
DaveFP wrote
kdrk888 wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
serhan_ wrote
Cosina Co., Ltd. will launch the Voigtlender interchangeable lens "NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical VM" in February. The lens configuration is basically the same as the E-mount version, but the VM-mount version is optimized for Leica M Digital image sensors. The suggested retail price is 150,000 yen excluding tax.https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1229110.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-21mm1_4/index.html
Street price (ref Map Camera) is 133200 yen (including 10% tax):
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132399
It's slightly less than the E-mount version.
According to product description it includes the "floating element design" same as E-mount which I think Cosina hasn't done before with any of their VM lenses.
The sole reason I want to use this type of screw-in hood is to be able to rotate the CPL by just rotating the hood, without removing the hood to rotate the CPL and putting the hood back on.
. Even the OEM hoods for WA lenses look pretty shallow and wide too.True. I sometimes carry a small umbrella for the times I really need shade.
Jan 30, 2020 at 10:28 AM
p.28 #20Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
This lens does so well with flare, I find it really doesn't benefit much from a lens hood.
Jan 30, 2020 at 10:58 AM