Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
p.26 #1Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
abase21 wrote:
..I don`t see what you guys see - for me it is an fantastic lens. I use it mainly for landscape, so maybe for that reason the Loxia would be the right choice - but I have it and I`m happy with it.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49256825393_ed60b05377_h.jpgWinteranfang am Borner See by H. Wiedow, auf Flickr
Great shot!
Perhaps you don't see what we've been discussing because you are using the lens mostly at f/8.
That's great for those using this lens for landscapes as field curvature should not be as noticeable at small apertures. It will be masked by depth of field.
..I don`t see what you guys see - for me it is an fantastic lens. I use it mainly for landscape, so maybe for that reason the Loxia would be the right choice - but I have it and I`m happy with it.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49256825393_ed60b05377_h.jpgWinteranfang am Borner See by H. Wiedow, auf Flickr
Great shot!
Perhaps you don't see what we've been discussing because you are using the lens mostly at f/8.
That's great for those using this lens for landscapes as field curvature should not be as noticeable at small apertures. It will be masked by depth of field.
Dec 24, 2019 at 12:33 AM
p.26 #2Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
It looks to be a brilliant lens. I wonder how it compares with the Leica SEM 21/3.4 for landscape work. Of course, the native e-mount is certainly a big plus compared with an adapted Leica.
Jan 02, 2020 at 08:23 AM
p.26 #3Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Well, I broke down (pretty predictable) and bought the 21/1.4 and sold the Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 ZF.2. The Voigtlander is sharper and faster and smaller but does not produce the colors, contrast, and "body" of the Zeiss. I'd call it a wash. The Voigtlander will be carried more.
But I will miss the Distagon.
But I will miss the Distagon.
Jan 02, 2020 at 09:24 AM
p.26 #4Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
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Jan 02, 2020 at 10:51 AM
p.26 #5Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
I've noticed subtle differences between Voigtlander (CV 40) and Zeiss (Loxia 21, ZM 35) during my limited time of playing around with both, and I agree with you.
I prefer Zeiss for landscapes, but actually really like Voigtlander for portraits.
sandycrane wrote:
Well, I broke down (pretty predictable) and bought the 21/1.4 and sold the Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 ZF.2. The Voigtlander is sharper and faster and smaller but does not produce the colors, contrast, and "body" of the Zeiss. I'd call it a wash. The Voigtlander will be carried more.
But I will miss the Distagon.
I prefer Zeiss for landscapes, but actually really like Voigtlander for portraits.
sandycrane wrote:
Well, I broke down (pretty predictable) and bought the 21/1.4 and sold the Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 ZF.2. The Voigtlander is sharper and faster and smaller but does not produce the colors, contrast, and "body" of the Zeiss. I'd call it a wash. The Voigtlander will be carried more.
But I will miss the Distagon.
Jan 02, 2020 at 11:20 AM
p.26 #6Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
sandycrane wrote:
Well, I broke down (pretty predictable) and bought the 21/1.4 and sold the Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 ZF.2. The Voigtlander is sharper and faster and smaller but does not produce the colors, contrast, and "body" of the Zeiss. I'd call it a wash. The Voigtlander will be carried more.
But I will miss the Distagon.
Have you considered the Loxia? It seems it has similar contrast/pop to the ZF. I'm still hesitating between the contrast of the Loxia and the aperture of the Nokton. First world problems..
Well, I broke down (pretty predictable) and bought the 21/1.4 and sold the Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 ZF.2. The Voigtlander is sharper and faster and smaller but does not produce the colors, contrast, and "body" of the Zeiss. I'd call it a wash. The Voigtlander will be carried more.
But I will miss the Distagon.
Have you considered the Loxia? It seems it has similar contrast/pop to the ZF. I'm still hesitating between the contrast of the Loxia and the aperture of the Nokton. First world problems..
Jan 02, 2020 at 08:58 PM
p.26 #7Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
matt-to wrote:
But I will miss the Distagon.Have you considered the Loxia? It seems it has similar contrast/pop to the ZF. I'm still hesitating between the contrast of the Loxia and the aperture of the Nokton. First world problems..
Thanks for your comment. No, I'm going to stick with the Voigtlander for now. Perhaps a Camera Raw lens profile will be able to correct my minor complaints. The Voigt really is a great lens, as is the Zeiss.
sandycrane wrote
Well, I broke down (pretty predictable) and bought the 21/1.4 and sold the Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 ZF.2. The Voigtlander is sharper and faster and smaller but does not produce the colors, contrast, and "body" of the Zeiss. I'd call it a wash. The Voigtlander will be carried more.But I will miss the Distagon.
Thanks for your comment. No, I'm going to stick with the Voigtlander for now. Perhaps a Camera Raw lens profile will be able to correct my minor complaints. The Voigt really is a great lens, as is the Zeiss.
Jan 03, 2020 at 09:13 AM
p.26 #8Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Darn it you people with these images.... I just pulled the trigger on the voigtlander 21 1.4 after much thought as I LOVE manual focus lenses for landscape! 
It had a $100 discount on adorama and I got some additional off from points. Darn GAS!
So much useful info has been posted here by everyone so thank you! The lens really checks all aspects that I cared about. So excited!!
Going to be fun paring it with the 16-35 2.8 GM for when I want to go wider. This voigtlander will do well for those creative shots with that beautiful rendering and sunstars. They are both going to be very light in my bag! I think at this point all I need is a 24-70 2.8 and I am pretty good for 2020/2021
It had a $100 discount on adorama and I got some additional off from points. Darn GAS! So much useful info has been posted here by everyone so thank you! The lens really checks all aspects that I cared about. So excited!!Going to be fun paring it with the 16-35 2.8 GM for when I want to go wider. This voigtlander will do well for those creative shots with that beautiful rendering and sunstars. They are both going to be very light in my bag! I think at this point all I need is a 24-70 2.8 and I am pretty good for 2020/2021
Jan 05, 2020 at 12:08 AM
p.26 #9Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
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Jan 05, 2020 at 04:41 PM
p.26 #10Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
I just received my copy yesterday. OH MY wow! This lens...is absolutely beautiful. The IQ is soooo amazing. I am so happy I got this as I just love the 20-25mm focal length for landscapes. The colors and that zeiss like rendering totally made me fall in love with this after testing it out briefly indoors. Super impressed with it!!! I think the only other time I was this happy and excited with a lens was when I got the zeiss milvus 25 1.4 zf.2 that I still have and use. MF on sony is a dream!
Now I have voigtlander GAS! Looking at that 12mm next
I think the only other time I was this happy and excited with a lens was when I got the zeiss milvus 25 1.4 zf.2 that I still have and use. MF on sony is a dream! Now I have voigtlander GAS! Looking at that 12mm next
Jan 09, 2020 at 12:04 PM
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p.26 #11Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
sismailian wrote:
I just received my copy yesterday. OH MY wow! This lens...is absolutely beautiful. The IQ is soooo amazing. I am so happy I got this as I just love the 20-25mm focal length for landscapes. The colors and that zeiss like rendering totally made me fall in love with this after testing it out briefly indoors. Super impressed with it!!! I think the only other time I was this happy and excited with a lens was when I got the zeiss milvus 25 1.4 zf.2 that I still have and use. MF on sony is a dream!
Now...Show more →
Congrats! The CV 40mm f1.2 is superb too, you see them selling for $650-$700 on the B&S board, unbelievable.
I just received my copy yesterday. OH MY wow! This lens...is absolutely beautiful. The IQ is soooo amazing. I am so happy I got this as I just love the 20-25mm focal length for landscapes. The colors and that zeiss like rendering totally made me fall in love with this after testing it out briefly indoors. Super impressed with it!!!
I think the only other time I was this happy and excited with a lens was when I got the zeiss milvus 25 1.4 zf.2 that I still have and use. MF on sony is a dream! Now...Show more →
Congrats! The CV 40mm f1.2 is superb too
, you see them selling for $650-$700 on the B&S board, unbelievable.Jan 09, 2020 at 12:47 PM
p.26 #12Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Very nice! I do love the 40mm. I had the sigma 40mm 1.4 art which I really love as well but pretty heavy to lunge around with the nikon d810.
Jan 09, 2020 at 03:48 PM
p.26 #14Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Beautiful shot! Pretty impressive for wide open with bright sun in the frame 
Jan 09, 2020 at 05:57 PM
p.26 #15Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
sismailian wrote:
Beautiful shot! Pretty impressive for wide open with bright sun in the frame
Thanks! My exif doesn't report properly on the Z6. This was F11 I think.
Beautiful shot! Pretty impressive for wide open with bright sun in the frame
Thanks! My exif doesn't report properly on the Z6. This was F11 I think.
Jan 09, 2020 at 05:59 PM
p.26 #16Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Oh yea I was going to say, noticed your Nikon Z6. You got an adapter I assume? Sony to nikon? I use my zeiss milvus 25 1.4 with the commlite adapter and yea I get no exif data also so I generally don't know what aperture so I normally assume its F8 if its a landscape shot especially a sunset
Jan 09, 2020 at 06:06 PM
p.26 #17Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
sismailian wrote:
Oh yea I was going to say, noticed your Nikon Z6. You got an adapter I assume? Sony to nikon? I use my zeiss milvus 25 1.4 with the commlite adapter and yea I get no exif data also so I generally don't know what aperture so I normally assume its F8 if its a landscape shot especially a sunset
Ya, it's the techart pro. I thought according to the specs it would record exif and communicate with the Z6 but it doesn't. If I want proper exif, I have to manually change it on the body to correspond to the lens. I'm too lazy and it screws up the metering.
Oh yea I was going to say, noticed your Nikon Z6. You got an adapter I assume? Sony to nikon? I use my zeiss milvus 25 1.4 with the commlite adapter and yea I get no exif data also so I generally don't know what aperture so I normally assume its F8 if its a landscape shot especially a sunset
Ya, it's the techart pro. I thought according to the specs it would record exif and communicate with the Z6 but it doesn't. If I want proper exif, I have to manually change it on the body to correspond to the lens. I'm too lazy and it screws up the metering.
Jan 09, 2020 at 06:11 PM
p.26 #18Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Has anyone replaced the OEM hood of the CV 21 with a screw-in metal hood that doesn't cause vignetting? The OEM screw-in hood of the CC 40 f1.2 is so easy for using CPL by just rotating the hood to get the desired result, without removing the hood in order to rotate the CPL. I want a hood like that for my CV 21, but only if it doesn't cause vignetting.
TIA.
TIA.
Jan 10, 2020 at 09:21 AM
p.26 #19Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Hardcore wrote:
Ya, it's the techart pro. I thought according to the specs it would record exif and communicate with the Z6 but it doesn't. If I want proper exif, I have to manually change it on the body to correspond to the lens. I'm too lazy and it screws up the metering.
There is a whole thread on the Nikon forum on the TechArt adapter, but the summary is that if you match the aperture on the camera (which doesn't affect exposure at f/5.6 or wider) then you will get appropriate EXIF and metering won't be affected. If you stop down further metering is screwed but if you really want EXIF data and proper exposure you can get it by matching the aperture and using exposure compensation. The much bigger issue, IMO, however, is that the TechArt adapter screws up IBIS and if you use the TechArt adapter you really need to shut off IBIS or your pictures will be negatively affected. Shutting off IBIS is probably fine for most people on a tripod, but if you shoot the lens hand held and you want to use IBIS you really need a different adapter.
sismailian wrote
Oh yea I was going to say, noticed your Nikon Z6. You got an adapter I assume? Sony to nikon? I use my zeiss milvus 25 1.4 with the commlite adapter and yea I get no exif data also so I generally don't know what aperture so I normally assume its F8 if its a landscape shot especially a sunsetThere is a whole thread on the Nikon forum on the TechArt adapter, but the summary is that if you match the aperture on the camera (which doesn't affect exposure at f/5.6 or wider) then you will get appropriate EXIF and metering won't be affected. If you stop down further metering is screwed but if you really want EXIF data and proper exposure you can get it by matching the aperture and using exposure compensation. The much bigger issue, IMO, however, is that the TechArt adapter screws up IBIS and if you use the TechArt adapter you really need to shut off IBIS or your pictures will be negatively affected. Shutting off IBIS is probably fine for most people on a tripod, but if you shoot the lens hand held and you want to use IBIS you really need a different adapter.
Jan 10, 2020 at 09:30 AM
p.26 #20Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
-35 celcius today. With the wind... much colder.
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Jan 15, 2020 at 11:49 AM