Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
p.20 #1Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Read through this and other threads, I got the picture. I have Q's on usability issues.
* How tight is the Loxia mount? Is it really bad enough to discourage mounting/unmonting?
* Based on my Canon DSLR experience, I think manual focus is OK or even desirable for 20mm or shorter but you kind of need/want AF for 24mm or longer. With SONY A7*/9 with manual focus AID features, do you feel differently?
* How tight is the Loxia mount? Is it really bad enough to discourage mounting/unmonting?
* Based on my Canon DSLR experience, I think manual focus is OK or even desirable for 20mm or shorter but you kind of need/want AF for 24mm or longer. With SONY A7*/9 with manual focus AID features, do you feel differently?
Aug 24, 2019 at 04:30 PM
p.20 #2Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Pondria wrote:
Read through this and other threads, I got the picture. I have Q's on usability issues.
* How tight is the Loxia mount? Is it really bad enough to discourage mounting/unmonting?
* Based on my Canon DSLR experience, I think manual focus is OK or even desirable for 20mm or shorter but you kind of need/want AF for 24mm or longer. With SONY A7*/9 with manual focus AID features, do you feel differently?
I have has four Loxia's 21, 35, 50 & 85 and all I have left is the 85. They are not fun to mount or dismount or use the aperture ring. The color is great but the Nokton is a better lens in most peoples opinion.
Read through this and other threads, I got the picture. I have Q's on usability issues.
* How tight is the Loxia mount? Is it really bad enough to discourage mounting/unmonting?
* Based on my Canon DSLR experience, I think manual focus is OK or even desirable for 20mm or shorter but you kind of need/want AF for 24mm or longer. With SONY A7*/9 with manual focus AID features, do you feel differently?
I have has four Loxia's 21, 35, 50 & 85 and all I have left is the 85. They are not fun to mount or dismount or use the aperture ring. The color is great but the Nokton is a better lens in most peoples opinion.
Aug 24, 2019 at 04:38 PM
p.20 #3Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Pondria wrote:
Read through this and other threads, I got the picture. I have Q's on usability issues.
* How tight is the Loxia mount? Is it really bad enough to discourage mounting/unmonting?
* Based on my Canon DSLR experience, I think manual focus is OK or even desirable for 20mm or shorter but you kind of need/want AF for 24mm or longer. With SONY A7*/9 with manual focus AID features, do you feel differently?
Manual focusing on Sony's cameras and their focusing aids is far easier than anything you'll have experienced with a DSLR.
Read through this and other threads, I got the picture. I have Q's on usability issues.
* How tight is the Loxia mount? Is it really bad enough to discourage mounting/unmonting?
* Based on my Canon DSLR experience, I think manual focus is OK or even desirable for 20mm or shorter but you kind of need/want AF for 24mm or longer. With SONY A7*/9 with manual focus AID features, do you feel differently?
Manual focusing on Sony's cameras and their focusing aids is far easier than anything you'll have experienced with a DSLR.
Aug 24, 2019 at 06:01 PM
p.20 #4Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Yeah, I learned to hate MF on DSLRs for anything longer than 35mm and faster than f/2.8. On mirrorless it’s much more usable thanks to magnification and peaking.
Aug 24, 2019 at 06:11 PM
p.20 #5Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Well just shot my daughters salon for her new website. All with the 21 and Profoto lights 2 B10 and 1 A1x. Just got these lights within the last 2 months. I absolutely love them. I should they cost enough. 
Aug 30, 2019 at 10:42 AM
p.20 #6Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Just for the record I actually built that out. Lots of shiplap .
Aug 30, 2019 at 10:46 AM
p.20 #7Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Watch your reflections in that last one Guy, got a couple modifier reflections in those white panels. 
The CV 21 is also a good long exposure lens.
GMPhotography wrote:
Just for the record I actually built that out. Lots of shiplap .
The CV 21 is also a good long exposure lens.
GMPhotography wrote:
Just for the record I actually built that out. Lots of shiplap .
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Aug 30, 2019 at 11:15 AM
p.20 #8Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Yea I caught that. I'll airbrush it
Mathieu18 wrote:
Watch your reflections in that last one Guy, got a couple modifier reflections in those white panels.
The CV 21 is also a good long exposure lens.
GMPhotography wrote
Just for the record I actually built that out. Lots of shiplap .Aug 30, 2019 at 11:30 AM
p.20 #9Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
..my first night shoot ;-)
Night Sky Over Dead Tree by H. Wiedow, auf Flickr
Edited on Aug 31, 2019 at 03:34 AM · View previous versions
Night Sky Over Dead Tree by H. Wiedow, auf FlickrEdited on Aug 31, 2019 at 03:34 AM · View previous versions
Aug 31, 2019 at 12:45 AM
p.20 #10Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
@GMPhotography – your interior shoots are too flashy – the real estate guys say: the ambient do the heavy lift.
Normaly I would blend a view exposures together - the flash only for the shadows (brush in)
In generally I would not use a modifier for such a big room - bounce the lights with a reflector against the seeling (30cm)
For such a big room you will need a few layers
Normaly I would blend a view exposures together - the flash only for the shadows (brush in)
In generally I would not use a modifier for such a big room - bounce the lights with a reflector against the seeling (30cm)
For such a big room you will need a few layers
Aug 31, 2019 at 12:53 AM
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p.20 #11Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
It’s not real estate for starters and who are they to determine that. The flash is only for shadows I have daylight pouring in.
Also I bounce any light up into the ceiling I actually showing my ceiling it would blow out the ceiling so your totally wrong there. Kind of know what I’m doing after 4 decades as a Pro shooter.
I did not ask for your critic either. Your not paying me to have any input
https://www.guymancusophotography.com/portfolio.html?folio=PORTFOLIO
Also I bounce any light up into the ceiling I actually showing my ceiling it would blow out the ceiling so your totally wrong there. Kind of know what I’m doing after 4 decades as a Pro shooter.
I did not ask for your critic either. Your not paying me to have any input
https://www.guymancusophotography.com/portfolio.html?folio=PORTFOLIO
Aug 31, 2019 at 04:10 AM
p.20 #12Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
@GMPhotography - sorry, that was not my intention to make you angry. - Your portfolio looks very impressive...
Aug 31, 2019 at 04:25 AM
p.20 #13Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
abase21 wrote:
@GMPhotography@ - sorry, that was not my intention to make you angry.
Far from angry.
@GMPhotography@ - sorry, that was not my intention to make you angry.
Far from angry.
Aug 31, 2019 at 04:29 AM
p.20 #14Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Need more photo please 
. Debating using this on a Z6 for travel vs my Sigma 20mm F1.4. The latter is too large and this has much better sunstars. I'm a sucker for good sunstars.
How is the micro-contrast compared to say the Zeiss 21mm F2.8? I used to own that lens and was always impressed by how it rendered.
. Debating using this on a Z6 for travel vs my Sigma 20mm F1.4. The latter is too large and this has much better sunstars. I'm a sucker for good sunstars.How is the micro-contrast compared to say the Zeiss 21mm F2.8? I used to own that lens and was always impressed by how it rendered.
Sep 02, 2019 at 12:13 PM
p.20 #15Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
..... actually it doesn't matter if I see any more photos. I already know I'm buying this lens. Just hope it adapts well to the z6
Sep 02, 2019 at 09:32 PM
p.20 #16Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Hardcore wrote:
Need more photo please. Debating using this on a Z6 for travel vs my Sigma 20mm F1.4. The latter is too large and this has much better sunstars. I'm a sucker for good sunstars.
How is the micro-contrast compared to say the Zeiss 21mm F2.8? I used to own that lens and was always impressed by how it rendered.
Fred had a comparison thread somewhere.
Need more photo please
. Debating using this on a Z6 for travel vs my Sigma 20mm F1.4. The latter is too large and this has much better sunstars. I'm a sucker for good sunstars.How is the micro-contrast compared to say the Zeiss 21mm F2.8? I used to own that lens and was always impressed by how it rendered.
Fred had a comparison thread somewhere.
Sep 03, 2019 at 01:53 AM
p.20 #17Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
kdrk888 wrote:
. Debating using this on a Z6 for travel vs my Sigma 20mm F1.4. The latter is too large and this has much better sunstars. I'm a sucker for good sunstars.
How is the micro-contrast compared to say the Zeiss 21mm F2.8? I used to own that lens and was always impressed by how it rendered.Fred had a comparison thread somewhere.
Ya, I've seen the comparison vs the loxia. I just wanted to know how it did with the older zeiss ZF.2 21mm for F mount. (not the newer loxia). I wasn't very clear.
Hardcore wrote
Need more photo please. Debating using this on a Z6 for travel vs my Sigma 20mm F1.4. The latter is too large and this has much better sunstars. I'm a sucker for good sunstars.How is the micro-contrast compared to say the Zeiss 21mm F2.8? I used to own that lens and was always impressed by how it rendered.
Ya, I've seen the comparison vs the loxia. I just wanted to know how it did with the older zeiss ZF.2 21mm for F mount. (not the newer loxia). I wasn't very clear.
Sep 03, 2019 at 06:56 AM
p.20 #18Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
It does. Works better on my Z7 than the Z6, must be a bit of tolerance variance in the mount diameter, though in a sample of 2 I’m not sure the outlier...
Hardcore wrote:
..... actually it doesn't matter if I see any more photos. I already know I'm buying this lens. Just hope it adapts well to the z6
Hardcore wrote:
..... actually it doesn't matter if I see any more photos. I already know I'm buying this lens. Just hope it adapts well to the z6
Sep 03, 2019 at 08:18 PM
p.20 #19Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Mathieu18 wrote:
It does. Works better on my Z7 than the Z6, must be a bit of tolerance variance in the mount diameter, though in a sample of 2 I’m not sure the outlier...
On the exif for the second shot Mathieu, is the metering having issues or why the -3.0 exposure comp.
Thanks for the great photos btw!!
It does. Works better on my Z7 than the Z6, must be a bit of tolerance variance in the mount diameter, though in a sample of 2 I’m not sure the outlier...
Hardcore wrote
..... actually it doesn't matter if I see any more photos. I already know I'm buying this lens. Just hope it adapts well to the z6On the exif for the second shot Mathieu, is the metering having issues or why the -3.0 exposure comp.
Thanks for the great photos btw!!
Sep 05, 2019 at 09:19 PM
p.20 #20Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton Review
Rookie question but would 1.4 make a huge difference for milky way shots against a 2.8 lens?
I'm trying to decide between the Loxia 21 and the Nokton. Image quality wise, I doubt I will see the difference at my level. However I like milky way pictures that are "crowded with stars", really the more the better for me! Would the 1.4 help me in this regard? (without tracker)
I'm trying to decide between the Loxia 21 and the Nokton. Image quality wise, I doubt I will see the difference at my level. However I like milky way pictures that are "crowded with stars", really the more the better for me! Would the 1.4 help me in this regard? (without tracker)
Sep 06, 2019 at 08:41 AM