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Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review

  
 
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p.12 #1 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


GAS enabling group maybe 🤐

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This thread’s subtitle should be GAS Therapy Group Session.




Mar 20, 2019 at 01:31 PM
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p.12 #2 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


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. Love it


hahahahaa
I need to sit down and write my current impressions from Fred's test and what I will be doing..I am sure a LOT of people is eager to read my opinion hahahaha ok maybe not but still I want to express it eventually. Just waiting for Fred's Eye AF test.



Mar 20, 2019 at 01:32 PM
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p.12 #3 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


That GM hood is a real 'Big & Tall' guy.


Mar 20, 2019 at 01:44 PM
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GabrielPhoto wrote:
hahahahaa
I need to sit down and write my current impressions from Fred's test and what I will be doing..I am sure a LOT of people is eager to read my opinion hahahaha ok maybe not but still I want to express it eventually. Just waiting for Fred's Eye AF test.


I for one would love to hear you impression. As a Pro myself i think we help give our point of view even though it may not relate to a hobbyists needs it does show the logic we use to solve our problems and needs. I think that works both ways too and like you we respect very much our hobbyists friends here and as a community when someone is adding good data points its very important and let me add when these data points are added they are backed by facts which some of us do by testing the load out of this stuff and post it.



Mar 20, 2019 at 01:49 PM
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p.12 #5 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Specular highlights quality and shape (bokeh balls)

It's always surprising to see that a lens with a huge aspherical element towards the front produces such clean specular highlights. Sony extreme aspherical (XA) molding process really works well and I can't detect any sign of onion ring pattern on 135/1.8 GM's images.
The Sigma 135/1.8 Art on the other hand does not have aspherical in its optical design so I was expecting great quality in this regard.

How do they compare side by side? Here are samples taken at infinity and close focus. They have very similar outlining and clean inner structure, but Sigma's specular highlights are slightly more rounded than the Sony's especially at close distance.




Focused at infinity






Focused at 0.9m




Mar 20, 2019 at 01:58 PM
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p.12 #6 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Thanks Fred. Feels like splitting more hairs with this one. Although I agree the Sigma produces ever so slightly rounder (plumper?) balls in this test.


Mar 20, 2019 at 02:02 PM
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p.12 #7 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Did you try F2 and 2.8 by chance. Interesting to know which gets rounder faster


Mar 20, 2019 at 02:17 PM
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p.12 #8 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


GabrielPhoto wrote:
hahahahaa
I need to sit down and write my current impressions from Fred's test and what I will be doing..I am sure a LOT of people is eager to read my opinion hahahaha ok maybe not but still I want to express it eventually. Just waiting for Fred's Eye AF test.


Yesterday I did an Eye AF test and was surprised the Sigma held its own.

Using Eye AF in AF-C, I took 20 shots in good light and 20 shots in low light. (both indoors). So 40 images for each lens.
How did they fare?

Sony 135 GM: (it's not infallible )
  • Good light: 18 critically sharp images, 1 sharp, 1 miss
  • Low light: 15 critically sharp images, 3 sharp, 2 misses

    Sigma 135Art:
  • Good light: 16 critically sharp images, 2 sharp and 2 misses.
  • Low light: 14 critically sharp images, 2 sharp, 4 misses

    I was surprised by this result because AF is much faster on the Sony but the Sigma did very well in comparison.
    My model was holding still but moving her head after every click (So move and freeze for the shot). For these types of still portraits, both lenses will do very well, although the Sony performed better.
    With faster action, I believe the Sigma would not perform as well, especially in low light.


  • Mar 20, 2019 at 02:18 PM
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    p.12 #9 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    GMPhotography wrote:
    Did you try F2 and 2.8 by chance. Interesting to know which gets rounder faster


    Yes. Please!

    The camerastore crew said that the bokeh balls were very round at f4.




    Mar 20, 2019 at 02:27 PM
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    p.12 #10 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Specular Highlights' shape at smaller apertures

    The Sony 135/1.8 GM is equipped 11 rounded aperture blades. The Sigma has 9 blades in comparison.
    Of course there is no advantage for the Sony when both lenses are wide open since the aperture blades would be recessed but as we stop the lens down, we can see some changes.

    Here is a sequence from f/1.8 until f/5.6 comparing specular highlights' roundness at center: (Sony vs Sigma)

    PS: Ignore the dark spots on the 135 GM crops. My review copy has some internal dust.





































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    p.12 #11 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Interesting the Sony at 2.8 looks the roundest


    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:10 PM
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    p.12 #12 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    GMPhotography wrote:
    Interesting the Sony at 2.8 looks the roundest


    Very good at f/2.5 as well, but interestingly the Sigma looks a little better than the Sony at f/2.2.



    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:12 PM
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    p.12 #13 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Caught that as well Steve. Kind of odd


    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:18 PM
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    p.12 #14 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    GMPhotography wrote:
    Caught that as well Steve. Kind of odd


    Probably due to blade curvature.



    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:38 PM
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    p.12 #15 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Steve Spencer wrote:
    Very good at f/2.5 as well, but interestingly the Sigma looks a little better than the Sony at f/2.2.


    That is unexpected for sure. I was thinking the GM will have the advantage in roundness at anything aperture that was not wide open.



    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:40 PM
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    p.12 #16 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Resolution and Contrast at Minimum focus distance (MFD):

    Here is where the Sony exceeded my expectations. We've already seen the FE 135/1.8 GM performed great at infinity distance being super sharp across the field from wide open and having f/2.8 as its optimal aperture. But how does it performs at minimal close distance? Surprisingly the same thanks for its floating element design.

    For ultimate resolution at MFD, stopping down to f/2.8 improves resolution slightly but f/1.8 (wide open) is already outstanding as we can see below:





    Incredible performance at MFD: LEFT: f/1.8 | RIGHT: F/2.8




    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:41 PM
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    p.12 #17 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    How about the Sigma 135/1.8 Art E-mount?

    It can't focus as close as the Sony and needs f/2.8 for great performance. See below:




    Sigma 135/1.8 Art at f/1.8 and f/2.8 (MFD)




    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:43 PM
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    p.12 #18 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Let's see them side by side:




    Sony vs Sigma at f/1.8 (MFD): Much higher resolution and contrast for the Sony and it lets you get closer too!






    Sony vs Sigma at f/2.8 (MFD): The Sigma improves at lot and gets very close to the Sony. I'd say f/2.8 is needed for the Sigma when shooting at close distance.




    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:44 PM
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    p.12 #19 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Fred Miranda wrote:
    Sony vs Sigma at f/1.8 (MFD): Much higher resolution and contrast for the Sony


    Impressive! This nails it for me. This and the AF.



    Mar 20, 2019 at 03:49 PM
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    p.12 #20 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


    Here is a real world example showing the Sony 135/1.8 GM at MFD:










    1:1 screenshot from image above




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