TeamSpeed wrote:
Yes, I wish the AI Servo mode AF box was smaller (like the One shot box), and also wish there was at least one custom slot on the dial. Both of these have bit me a bit as I tried using this for sports.
TS, without dissing the M50, I don't know why you are not using an M6II for your sports efforts. In spite of its external EVF it really has the control flexibility you are seeking including three control dials and two custom mode settings.
To the greater audience, I believe its the camera body features like the controls mentioned here, or size/handling, use complexity, weather sealing, lens selection, application specific performance, and cost that determine one's camera preference. The sensors since the FF 5D2 or APS-C 80D (perhaps 70D) are all excellent and of secondary consideration. IMHO!
I've always considered lens selection key and upgrade bodies for my lenses. For example my M6II works great for lenses up to the 70-300 or better, the 55-250. If I think I'll need my 100-400 I use it with my 90D. Also, if I'm going to be shooting actively I'll go for a DSLR with its greater battery life and instant sleep/wake cycle. My G1X3 and M are fine for casual shooting where turning them on and off between uses is not as annoying. My wife and daughter OTOH feel ease of use and light weight are the primary considerations so they stick to the Rebel series and lighter kit lenses. Image quality really hasn't been an issue with any of these cameras.
Jeff Nolten wrote:
TS, without dissing the M50, I don't know why you are not using an M6II for your sports efforts. In spite of its external EVF it really has the control flexibility you are seeking including three control dials and two custom mode settings.
To the greater audience, I believe its the camera body features like the controls mentioned here, or size/handling, use complexity, weather sealing, lens selection, application specific performance, and cost that determine one's camera preference. The sensors since the FF 5D2 or APS-C 80D (perhaps 70D) are all excellent and of secondary consideration. IMHO!
I've always considered lens selection key and upgrade bodies for my lenses. For example my M6II works great for lenses up to the 70-300 or better, the 55-250. If I think I'll need my 100-400 I use it with my 90D. Also, if I'm going to be shooting actively I'll go for a DSLR with its greater battery life and instant sleep/wake cycle. My G1X3 and M are fine for casual shooting where turning them on and off between uses is not as annoying. My wife and daughter OTOH feel ease of use and light weight are the primary considerations so they stick to the Rebel series and lighter kit lenses. Image quality really hasn't been an issue with any of these cameras....Show more →
I use my 5D4 and R6 for sports, but wanted to show some of my shots with the M50 as I was just playing with it next to the other gear at a game or two. I am not, nor would ever, suggest the M50 is a sports camera.
I also would not use the 6D2 for sports, as I have used the 5D3 which sports the same AF. It was a good start for a decent AF system for the 5D series from the 5D/5D2, but was still a little problematic for sports.
I have ALL the M inventory plus still have a plethora of DSLR’s (70d, 80d, 7d, 7dii etc etc)
The M50 is amazing
No it’s ergonomically not as comfortable as the DSLR’s nor is the battery life anywhere near as good, plus no option of adding a battery grip either 😔
However it (M50) takes stunning photos and better still videos - maybe not in cropped 4K
As a daylight walkabout camera I would take the M50 because focus accuracy is far better, EVF gives you real-time image of what your exposure will deliver. The problem lies in the weak battery, zero weather proofing and tiny EVF. The pop up is…crap, nothing like those of the DSLR era.
But for all it’s short comings and there are many, I would still choose the M50
However I’ve recently been testing the waters with Pentax 🤣 (past year) namely the old K5iis and very very recently adding the K3
Oh my 💕
The colours 💕💕💕 swoon !!
None of my canon stuff gets used much even tho it’s technically way more advanced, the humble Pentax has admittedly stolen my heart, feels like a proper photographers camera….can’t keep my hands of those gorgeous limited Pentax lenses 🤣👍🏻
The M50 is a highly capable camera in a surprisingly small form factor. These properties in combination are its biggest strength. Due to its smallness it tends to be underestimated. While it makes the most harmonic package with small M lenses like the 10-22, 15-45, 22 and 32 mm, I have used it gladly on seals with an adapted 100-400 L ii plus 2x extender, although this kind of use case is certainly not its main design target.
On the downside I see only the battery life (always bring 2 spares at least), the largely screen-driven operation and the "small" viewfinder in terms of magnification. All those are owed to the small size and weight, and have already been mentioned in this thread.
rmhh wrote:
The M50 is a highly capable camera in a surprisingly small form factor. These properties in combination are its biggest strength. Due to its smallness it tends to be underestimated. While it makes the most harmonic package with small M lenses like the 10-22, 15-45, 22 and 32 mm, I have used it gladly on seals with an adapted 100-400 L ii plus 2x extender, although this kind of use case is certainly not its main design target.
Yes, that's the charm of those M cameras. You can mount a tiny 32mm or 11-22mm, but also a big Sigma 50-100mm f/1.8 or Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 Sports, or Sigma 100-400mm Contemporary. I've sold the f/1.8 crop telephoto zoom, and I've changed the M50 for the M6II, but I'm still happy with the ability to mount the other big zooms on that M6II.
The 70-200mm Sports can handle the 32Mp sensor, the 100-400mm Contemporary would be probably more at home on the 24Mp M50. The best thing of the M50 was the SOOC. The M6II can't match that aspect.
rmhh wrote:
On the downside I see only the battery life (always bring 2 spares at least),
Besides the need for spares you also need a separate charger. With the M6II I use just one battery and the phone charger to charge it. Adds to the overall compactness imo.
rmhh wrote:
the largely screen-driven operation
With the M50 you can use a button to toggle between the functions of that one dial, which works quite well imo. For me it never was a largely screen driven operated camera. rmhh wrote:
and the "small" viewfinder in terms of magnification. All those are owed to the small size and weight, and have already been mentioned in this thread.
I’m sure you are aware, but the M50 Touch & Drag was a revelation. Using the EVF you can move the AF point wherever you please with your thumb on the rear screen. This works on both MKi & ii
It was a game changer for me as I hate taking pictures just using the rear screen, always use the EVF.
Brilliant feature 👍🏻
EOS M50 Mark II may not be the most exciting release Canon's come up with, but it also doesn't mess too much with the formula that made the original M50 so popular. As such, the M50 Mark II is an attractive option for more novice users, and in particular, its live-streaming capabilities do help it stand out from the crowd. We'll look at live-streaming in particular later in the review.
What’s New
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The first of the EOS M50 Mark II's updates concerns its Dual Pixel autofocus system, which now includes eye tracking AF for both stills and videos (face-detection was the only option on its predecessor).
The camera can also now shoot vertical video and you can use it to livestream to YouTube as long as you've also set up an image.canon account and have more than 1,000 subscribers (more on this in the dedicated live streaming section of the review). Although the camera can technically capture 4K/24p video, it’s heavily cropped and you can’t use the Dual Pixel autofocus (it maxes out at Full HD for live streaming anyway).
an_also wrote:
What are the noticeable differences between m50 vs m50ii?
I own both
From memory there is very little difference
The MKii has eyefocus in AiServo, also offers an extra small single spot AF frame for more precise auto focus. It’s also supposedly has the necessary software built in to enable you to record direct to channel like YouTube.
However as I own a pair of MKi’s and ‘only’ one MKii, I tend to use the ‘ spare’ MKi….. funnily enough I went and got it out yesterday. Had forgotten just how freaking capable it is!! Awesome camera.
On a side note, I have ALL the EOS-m lenses inventory plus the stunning Sigma 1.4 trio and 2 dozen cheap China lenses in ef-m mount…..of all the lenses I own plus all my ef and ef-s lenses too, the two lenses that I almost always use are the TT Artisans 25mm & 50mm (has clicked aperture ring!!) , both are manual, cheap as chips but wide open they really do deliver!! Small, light and with peaking enabled they are insane….love em’ 💕
The M line was/is fantastic, hence why I grabbed all of it 😂. A fantastic cheaper way to explore canon mirrorless.
My advice is go for it
Best of luck 👍🏻
Edit:
I said this before on the forum
But my biggest regret for canon, is that
a) They dropped the M line
b) The missing M7 following the legendary 7d series blueprint would have been incredible, a rugged, weather proof 32mp with built in EVF, pop up flash and optional battery grip would have satisfied and kept all of us M lovers.
Biggest mistake canon ever did was dropping the M line, hence why I have my very own M system museum, I still add the occasional missing accessories as and when they pop up 👍🏻
Shame on you canon
Shame on you.
It’s no secret that the R leaves me stone cold, hence my leaving and discovering Pentax .
The Canon M50 uses a similar APS-C sensor to the 80D, but the M50 has a smaller body, different autofocus system, and lacks some of the features found on the 80D, such as a more advanced viewfinder. The M50's dynamic range and image quality are still very good, but the 80D has a more robust set of features, including better build quality and additional controls. Overall, the M50 is more compact and offers great performance for vlogging and casual photography, but if you need better ergonomics or advanced controls, the 80D might be more suited for you.
NickPeters wrote:
The Canon M50 uses a similar APS-C sensor to the 80D, but the M50 has a smaller body, different autofocus system, and lacks some of the features found on the 80D, such as a more advanced viewfinder. The M50's dynamic range and image quality are still very good, but the 80D has a more robust set of features, including better build quality and additional controls. Overall, the M50 is more compact and offers great performance for vlogging and casual photography, but if you need better ergonomics or advanced controls, the 80D might be more suited for you.
Nick
Funny you say the 80d
I compared both M50 and 80d using a sigma 18-35/1.8 Art
The M50 nailed focus every time, the 80d didn’t
Handling wise the sigma was much more comfortable on the 80d than on the M50
I agree the 80d is superb, but for critical AF focus it simply isn’t as accurate as the M50….and that’s before we even touch on using manual focus via M50 Peaking.
My wife and daughter OTOH feel ease of use and light weight are the primary considerations so they stick to the Rebel series and lighter kit lenses. Image quality really hasn't been an issue with any of these cameras.
