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Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review

  
 
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p.26 #1 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


hasenbein wrote:
I have also joined the CV 21 club!

Took first test shots today. Then the pixel peepshow began. And it was fun :-)

Of course it doesn't have the super resolution of my CY 35-70 3.4 or my Bokina. But that's to be expected from an ultrawide. It's simply nicely sharp, I can't see a "midfield dip", the corners are really OK, nothing to complain about.

What really strikes me with this lens is how uncomplicated it is in use.

Simply set aperture to something between 5.6 and 8, focus on something not too near, and you get consistently sharp photos from edge to
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Now just give me a 28 just like it and make my day



Feb 20, 2019 at 03:50 PM
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p.26 #2 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


People say good things about the Sony 28mm f2 - did you try it?


Feb 20, 2019 at 04:12 PM
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p.26 #3 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


4 times. Don’t like it at all. Not to my standards


Feb 20, 2019 at 04:21 PM
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p.26 #4 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


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Now just give me a 28 just like it and make my day


Oh man I loved the Ultron 28mm F2 with closeup adapter. IQ was "good enough" for me and I liked the look it gave. But I never liked the Leica-style focus tab and all the hassle with the helicoid adapter (it could only focus to 0.7m without it). So I sold it. But I miss the lens. I really wish Voigtländer updated that lens for Sony with a close MFD (similar that you could get with the VM version and helicoid adapter).

Damned Tamron. Now I'm debating with myself if I should wait for the 17-28mm f/2.8 zoom or just buy this CV21 as I originally planned to do.



Feb 21, 2019 at 01:18 AM
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p.26 #5 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


I used to have the 28/1.9 Ultron (LTM) and it was my favorite lens on NEX-6 for a long time, but it wasn't that great towards the edges / corners on my A7r and later I sold it.

I think Cosina will announce some new lens developments just prior to CP+ (it starts 2/28) like they did last year, and I hope they include a new 28mm for e-mount in the next group



Feb 21, 2019 at 01:28 AM
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p.26 #6 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Guy: Have you tried using the CV 21 as a 24 mm (it's only a mere 1.14x crop factor)? If yes what's your opinion on sharpness result?


Feb 21, 2019 at 02:02 PM
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p.26 #7 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Have not tried that on the 21. Not a bad idea

Just have this gap from 21 to 40 that’s bugging me. I have the Sony 24 so I’m not complaining either



Feb 21, 2019 at 02:36 PM
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p.26 #8 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


If you try it, please tell me about. I'm planning to use a 21 prime as a 21-24 mini-zoom. My doubt is whether the CV would be sharp enough for that, or would I need the Loxia 21. I don't count on the Tokina 20 because is too big and not so good for Flare/glare as the other two. What's your opinion?


Feb 21, 2019 at 03:53 PM
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p.26 #9 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


On an A/R III I think of primes as little zooms (1x to 1.15x, even a little more). If I were you, having as you have a good 35 mm, I would use the Sony 24 as a 24-28, or buy a Loxia 25 to have 25-30.


Feb 21, 2019 at 04:02 PM
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Enri wrote:
If you try it, please tell me about. I'm planning to use a 21 prime as a 21-24 mini-zoom. My doubt is whether the CV would be sharp enough for that, or would I need the Loxia 21. I don't count on the Tokina 20 because is too big and not so good for Flare/glare as the other two. What's your opinion?


CV 21 is plenty sharp enough.



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p.26 #11 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Glad I sold the Sony 16-35 for the CV21. So much more fun to use, and images turn out so much nicer!



Feb 24, 2019 at 03:43 AM
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p.26 #12 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


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I used to have the 28/1.9 Ultron (LTM) and it was my favorite lens on NEX-6 for a long time, but it wasn't that great towards the edges / corners on my A7r and later I sold it.


How would you rate it for 24Mp body (I've got the A7III or in your case A9)? I don't care about corner sharpness wide open that much and I've read that it's pretty sharp in the center. But how is it when stopped down to f/8 or so? I'm thinking of using it for landscapes sometimes. Could be a nice pair for my 40mm Nokton. The M-mount Ultron was decent enough for my use - and if the LTM is anywhere near as good, I could pick it up. (I will also have better lenses for critical work.)

I'm mainly interested of getting the LTM version just because of it's focus ring - I really hated the focus tab on M mount version. I just bought the cheap A6000 which I'd also love to pair it with once a while. I'm kinda crossing my fingers for a native 28mm Ultron announced soon, but if there's no hint of such a lens at the CP+ within couple weeks, I'm tempted to just order the 29/1.9 LTM version as they're not that expensive. And I like how it looks and handles.



Feb 24, 2019 at 09:12 AM
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p.26 #13 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Order the E-mount version online and try it. You will most probably keep it.

I have the Contax-Zeiss 35-70 f3.4 which is outstandingly sharp. So I'm spoiled and need something really good when I put something wider on the camera. As I wrote already, sharpness and resolution are not on the level of above lens, and you have to stop down for good corners, but it's plenty good enough for a pixel peeper like me.



Feb 24, 2019 at 09:48 AM
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p.26 #14 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Tonzah78 wrote:
How would you rate it for 24Mp body (I've got the A7III or in your case A9)? I don't care about corner sharpness wide open that much and I've read that it's pretty sharp in the center. But how is it when stopped down to f/8 or so? I'm thinking of using it for landscapes sometimes. Could be a nice pair for my 40mm Nokton. The M-mount Ultron was decent enough for my use - and if the LTM is anywhere near as good, I could pick it up. (I will also have better lenses for critical work.)

I'm mainly interested
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I don't think it (Ultron 28/1.9 LTM) is great for corner-to-corner sharpness even stopped down to f8 on Sony FE cameras as there is quite much field curvature, so I think it will not be a very good option for landscapes. It's possible to get somewhat passable corners at f8 but not great, so I think it could work for certain types of shooting but not ideal for landscape at all. I have some alternative M/LTM glass that works much better corner-to-corner on my Sony cameras so I kept those and sold the Ultron. I keep Avenon 28/3.5 LTM (great at f8) and Minolta M-Rokkor 28/2.8, both are better on Sony for corner-to-corner though they are not as fast. They are quite a bit smaller than the Ultron though.

I found some of my old Ultron 28/1.9 shots in G+ and linked below. They show quite much corner softness and they were shot stopped down for the most part. The A7r album also contains shots with 55/1.8 so best to check exif though they can probably be recognized otherwise too.

With A7r: https://plus.google.com/%2BJuhaKannisto/posts/RM3PosGSkQk
With A7II: https://plus.google.com/%2BJuhaKannisto/posts/FXK4oHvmfwR

CP+ already starts next Thursday (28th) so anything they want to show there will be probably announced on 27th at the latest. So should not need to wait for very long to see if there are any signs of a new 28mm.



Feb 24, 2019 at 10:00 AM
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p.26 #15 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Wife out of town , so I took the opportunity to do some urban exploration yesterday.


Untitled by memory colors, on Flickr


Untitled by memory colors, on Flickr


Untitled by memory colors, on Flickr



Feb 24, 2019 at 01:01 PM
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p.26 #16 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


I like this lens.












Feb 28, 2019 at 04:27 PM
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p.26 #17 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Please don't call it selfie :-)

Sony ILCE-7RM3 | Voigtlander COLOR-SKOPAR 21mm F3.5 Aspherical







Edited on Mar 01, 2019 at 07:23 PM · View previous versions



Mar 01, 2019 at 07:34 AM
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p.26 #18 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Tempted on selling the Loxia 21mm and getting the M version of the CV 21mm 3.5 as I'm planning on moving back to Leica in the next 12-24 months.

I take the performance is identical between the E and M mount?

Having 39mm filter thread would make my travel gear ultra light (21/50/90)



Mar 01, 2019 at 07:13 PM
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p.26 #19 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


More from by the water at Plymouth, Devon taken a few weeks ago

A7RIII



Lido by David Fleming, on Flickr



Remains by David Fleming, on Flickr



Mar 04, 2019 at 01:12 PM
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p.26 #20 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


fplstudio wrote:
Please don't call it selfie :-)

Sony ILCE-7RM3 | Voigtlander COLOR-SKOPAR 21mm F3.5 Aspherical

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7825/32304382127_0bcbaaaa22_b.jpg


Selfie should be the title! Love the image. Congrats!



Mar 04, 2019 at 01:15 PM
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