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p.13 #1 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


I’m just still in disbelieve how close this is to the Loxia 21 and 25.

Just for fun next week. I’m going to test against the Sony 24. Need to test that lens anyway

Maybe a 3 way Loxia 25, Sony 24, CV 21



Oct 25, 2018 at 09:25 PM
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p.13 #2 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


GMPhotography wrote:
Heck I think I got a mid zone dip.

BB is a perfect test wall for photography. I know it’s boring but it gives us good data. I’ll be back at it next week. Sony 24 and the CV 35 classic.


It's just not far away enough for some of us



Oct 25, 2018 at 11:05 PM
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p.13 #3 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Yea it’s a piece of the puzzle


Oct 25, 2018 at 11:23 PM
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p.13 #4 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Interestingly this lens seems to have disappeared entirely from the website of the Australian dealer




Oct 26, 2018 at 01:14 AM
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p.13 #5 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Mainline site is showing it as 'unavailable', meaning I guess they have not yet received shipment. $A995. Give them a call maybe, to check when. As our dollars sinks, lenses like this come more strongly into frame.

Looking at Fred's comments on lack of copy variation in his copies, it occurs that this issue might be related to lens speed, faster might be subject to more variation. Maybe.



Oct 26, 2018 at 05:03 AM
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p.13 #6 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Guy, Fred... please: to make it clear, does the mid-dip occurs only focusing at far distances / infinite or it also happens focusing at shorter distances? If the second option is true, is the mid-dip equal or smaller? Thanks.


Oct 26, 2018 at 05:17 AM
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p.13 #7 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


I only see it at infinity wide open.


Oct 26, 2018 at 05:58 AM
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p.13 #8 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


At what f/ does it disappears as per your tests?


Oct 26, 2018 at 06:58 AM
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p.13 #9 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


On the safe side it looks like f6.3. Fred’s sample is better than mine so he will answer this also. I need a better infinity spot to shoot from.


Oct 26, 2018 at 07:08 AM
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p.13 #10 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


As a practical summary of the findings relative to differences in sharpness-micro contrast of the CV 21 vs the Loxia 21, I propose the following:

Both lenses focused at infinite:
At f /3.5 - Center: L21 better ■ Mid: V21 mushy and washed out (even focusing on Mid) ■ Corner: L21 better.
At f /5.6 - Center: L21 slightly better ■ Mid: L21 more than slightly better ■ Corner: L21 slightly better (also in vignetting).
At f /8.0 - Center: very similar ■ Mid: L21 very slightly better ■ Corner: very similar, with L21 slightly better in vignetting.

And also the following statements:
• Mid- dip of V21 only occurs at distance-infinity focus; it is quite localized (reduced area); it only has practical significance (relative) up to f /5.6 and very little or none at f/7.1 - 8.0
• Up to f/6.3 the described differences appear when inspecting crops at 100%. At Fit Screen - 50% are (almost) undetectable from f/5.6 in center and corners and from 6.3 in mid frame.
• Since f/7.1 sharpness-microcontrast of V21 is 95% of that of L21. At f/7.1 - 8.0, even at 100% the difference is only noticeable (looking carefully) in Mid frame; in the center and corners the difference is practically indistinguishable.



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p.13 #11 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


I’m heading out with lens now see if I can find a better infinity scene.


Oct 26, 2018 at 09:12 AM
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p.13 #12 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Shot a new infinity. I’ll post raws


Oct 26, 2018 at 10:50 AM
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p.13 #13 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Just some snaps



























Oct 26, 2018 at 11:56 AM
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p.13 #14 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


couple more

















Oct 26, 2018 at 11:58 AM
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p.13 #15 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


New infinity shot and clearly can see the mid frame dip. Im posting the Raws

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Oct 26, 2018 at 12:01 PM
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p.13 #16 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


The General store is 3 ft tall.


Oct 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM
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p.13 #17 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Do you mean you are focusing at the hard stop? At infinity? At the farthest distant object?

Need a little clarification, if there's still a dip if focused before infinity. Not that it matters, it's all academic at this point. Lens is awesome.



Oct 26, 2018 at 12:18 PM
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p.13 #18 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


I tired 3 different focusing points. Best seems to be a hair short of the hard stop. But the differences is extremely small. Im not seeing anything closer in than infinity. Been scouring my files and nada

Edited on Oct 26, 2018 at 12:29 PM · View previous versions



Oct 26, 2018 at 12:20 PM
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p.13 #19 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Lens is awesome and a ton fun to shoot


Oct 26, 2018 at 12:20 PM
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p.13 #20 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Fully agree. Not yet been able to test side by side with the GM but it is absolutely awesome and has already found a place in my bag.

I've finally been able to play with it yesterday







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Oct 27, 2018 at 05:14 PM
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