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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.34 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
And so it begins.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Zeiss+ZX%21&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
Are they nuts?
Rich
And so it begins.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Zeiss+ZX%21&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
Are they nuts?
Rich
Oct 04, 2020 at 06:58 AM
p.34 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
naturephoto1 wrote:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Zeiss+ZX%21&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=Are they nuts?
Rich
USD 4995,00 / 28mm * 35mm = USD 6243,75. Clearly a bargain!
LBJ2 wrote
And so it begins. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Zeiss+ZX%21&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
Rich
USD 4995,00 / 28mm * 35mm = USD 6243,75. Clearly a bargain!
Oct 04, 2020 at 07:34 AM
p.34 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
US $6000.
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
Oct 04, 2020 at 07:40 AM
p.34 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
US $6000.
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
Quite expensive for a Bayer filter sensor, fixed lens camera. Let's hope it's monochrome or something
US $6000.
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
Quite expensive for a Bayer filter sensor, fixed lens camera. Let's hope it's monochrome or something
Oct 04, 2020 at 08:51 AM
p.34 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
vdo1 wrote:
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!Quite expensive for a Bayer filter sensor, fixed lens camera. Let's hope it's monochrome or something
Well, it appears to have a fixed screen!
realVivek wrote
US $6000.A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
Well, it appears to have a fixed screen!
Oct 04, 2020 at 09:37 AM
p.34 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
US $6000.
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
Zeiss should spend more time on expanding the Loxia line or perhaps create a new Zeiss family that many manual users will welcome instead of this "bargain".
US $6000.
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
Zeiss should spend more time on expanding the Loxia line or perhaps create a new Zeiss family that many manual users will welcome instead of this "bargain".
Oct 04, 2020 at 10:16 AM
p.34 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
It is a brick that can double as a defensive weapon! That is the secret! 
vdo1 wrote:
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!Quite expensive for a Bayer filter sensor, fixed lens camera. Let's hope it's monochrome or something
vdo1 wrote:
realVivek wrote
US $6000.A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
Oct 04, 2020 at 10:27 AM
p.34 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
US $6000.
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
I wonder how many of those 30 FMers are still getting it at $6K.
US $6000.
A bargain!
(Should help clear out any RX1R II stock!)
Well done Zeiss!!
30 have voted that they would buy it! So, a grand success!!
I wonder how many of those 30 FMers are still getting it at $6K.
Oct 04, 2020 at 10:47 AM
p.34 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The staggering stupidity of Zeiss is simply off scale. In the midst of a world wide pandemic, with tens of millions unemployed, more every week, they have the stones to release something like this.
Oct 04, 2020 at 12:18 PM
p.34 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Woah—at least they are bringing it to market, even at 6k...
At least now we get to see that new 35/2.
At least now we get to see that new 35/2.
Oct 04, 2020 at 12:41 PM
p.34 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
If they had everything I've ever wanted in a stills camera + the perfect lens + built in editor + potential computational photography via Android OS... I would probably get it at that price, eventually. Always wanted an all in one solution that I could just be done with, and not have to carry any other kit with me. Sell off my other kit, etc.
This looks short of that, however. Already no stabilization + less than optimal MFD. If it reviews E X C E P T I O N A L L Y well... maybe. I have a feeling that I'll agree with the rest of the posters here in that this is exceptionally overpriced.
This looks short of that, however. Already no stabilization + less than optimal MFD. If it reviews E X C E P T I O N A L L Y well... maybe. I have a feeling that I'll agree with the rest of the posters here in that this is exceptionally overpriced.
Oct 04, 2020 at 01:39 PM
p.34 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
The staggering stupidity of Zeiss is simply off scale. In the midst of a world wide pandemic, with tens of millions unemployed, more every week, they have the stones to release something like this.
The pandemic has hit the economy very differently in different parts of the world. No need to wait in Germany, and maybe a good moment to launch in the PRC.
The staggering stupidity of Zeiss is simply off scale. In the midst of a world wide pandemic, with tens of millions unemployed, more every week, they have the stones to release something like this.
The pandemic has hit the economy very differently in different parts of the world. No need to wait in Germany, and maybe a good moment to launch in the PRC.
Oct 04, 2020 at 01:55 PM
p.34 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Red Dot vs Blue Label fisticuffs!
First to throw:
"The Zeiss ZX1 camera, the only Leica Q2 competitor, is now available for pre-order for… $6,000...The price broke all previous expectations and predictions and unless I am missing something, I don't see how the ZX1 is a $1,000 better camera compared to the Leica Q2 (priced at $5,000), but then again, I am just a Leica fanboy. Previous coverage of the Zeiss ZX1 camera can be found here and here." -By LR ADMIN | Published: OCTOBER 4, 2020
https://leicarumors.com/2020/10/04/the-zeiss-zx1-camera-the-only-leica-q2-competitor-is-now-available-for-pre-order-for-6000.aspx/
First to throw:
"The Zeiss ZX1 camera, the only Leica Q2 competitor, is now available for pre-order for… $6,000...The price broke all previous expectations and predictions and unless I am missing something, I don't see how the ZX1 is a $1,000 better camera compared to the Leica Q2 (priced at $5,000), but then again, I am just a Leica fanboy. Previous coverage of the Zeiss ZX1 camera can be found here and here." -By LR ADMIN | Published: OCTOBER 4, 2020
https://leicarumors.com/2020/10/04/the-zeiss-zx1-camera-the-only-leica-q2-competitor-is-now-available-for-pre-order-for-6000.aspx/
Oct 04, 2020 at 04:39 PM
p.34 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
Red Dot vs Blue Label fisticuffs!
First to throw:
"The Zeiss ZX1 camera, the only Leica Q2 competitor, is now available for pre-order for… $6,000...The price broke all previous expectations and predictions and unless I am missing something, I don't see how the ZX1 is a $1,000 better camera compared to the Leica Q2 (priced at $5,000), but then again, I am just a Leica fanboy. Previous coverage of the Zeiss ZX1 camera can be found here and here." -By LR ADMIN | Published: OCTOBER 4, 2020
https://leicarumors.com/2020/10/04/the-zeiss-zx1-camera-the-only-leica-q2-competitor-is-now-available-for-pre-order-for-6000.aspx/
Well, it could improve on the Q2 wide open, in flare resistance, and communications. Reporters on the scene that don't have any time to adjust focal length anyway and want to send out publishable images three minutes before others might even have a professional use case for this particular camera.
Red Dot vs Blue Label fisticuffs!
First to throw:
"The Zeiss ZX1 camera, the only Leica Q2 competitor, is now available for pre-order for… $6,000...The price broke all previous expectations and predictions and unless I am missing something, I don't see how the ZX1 is a $1,000 better camera compared to the Leica Q2 (priced at $5,000), but then again, I am just a Leica fanboy. Previous coverage of the Zeiss ZX1 camera can be found here and here." -By LR ADMIN | Published: OCTOBER 4, 2020
https://leicarumors.com/2020/10/04/the-zeiss-zx1-camera-the-only-leica-q2-competitor-is-now-available-for-pre-order-for-6000.aspx/
Well, it could improve on the Q2 wide open, in flare resistance, and communications. Reporters on the scene that don't have any time to adjust focal length anyway and want to send out publishable images three minutes before others might even have a professional use case for this particular camera.
Oct 04, 2020 at 04:48 PM
p.34 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Hopefully this release might mean Zeiss can go back to developing lenses.
Although, to be honest, the Batis line seemed complete as soon as they decided to do a 40 instead of a 35 and a 50. Given the "marketing" debacle that was the 40 CF, and alternatives from other brands, continuing Batis seems... redundant.
The Loxia line also seems fairly complete. They could extend it at the wide end, maybe, not sure if the barrel diameter works. I'd personally love a longer MF lens, but doubt it will happen. They could also redo the 35 and 50. But again, given alternatives, it all seems redundant, unless they're being "successful" selling them as a set (no one else is selling "sets"). The only new FL I see working is a 28mm. And that's all if Cosina doesn't do them as Voigtländer's first (how good would a new 50 need to be to compete with the APO Lanthar?)
On APS-C, Touit seems incomplete, but similarly pointless. And even in terms of brand licensing, G/GM fully replaced ZA.
So, what's left for Zeiss on E-mount?
Edited on Oct 05, 2020 at 03:46 PM · View previous versions
Although, to be honest, the Batis line seemed complete as soon as they decided to do a 40 instead of a 35 and a 50. Given the "marketing" debacle that was the 40 CF, and alternatives from other brands, continuing Batis seems... redundant.
The Loxia line also seems fairly complete. They could extend it at the wide end, maybe, not sure if the barrel diameter works. I'd personally love a longer MF lens, but doubt it will happen. They could also redo the 35 and 50. But again, given alternatives, it all seems redundant, unless they're being "successful" selling them as a set (no one else is selling "sets"). The only new FL I see working is a 28mm. And that's all if Cosina doesn't do them as Voigtländer's first (how good would a new 50 need to be to compete with the APO Lanthar?)
On APS-C, Touit seems incomplete, but similarly pointless. And even in terms of brand licensing, G/GM fully replaced ZA.
So, what's left for Zeiss on E-mount?
Edited on Oct 05, 2020 at 03:46 PM · View previous versions
Oct 04, 2020 at 05:48 PM
p.34 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I don't think a reporter on the scene has used a fixed lens camera since the 80s. A Canon with a 16-35/2.8 zoom, maybe a 24-70/2.8, has been the standard for years. Now, if they're AP, it'll be a Sony.
This camera is squarely aimed at wealthy older enthusiasts. Personally, I'd rather buy a Q2 or maybe a set of RX1R IIs...
I'll admit to being curious about lens performance...
AcuteShadows wrote:
LBJ2 wrote
Red Dot vs Blue Label fisticuffs!First to throw:
"The Zeiss ZX1 camera, the only Leica Q2 competitor, is now available for pre-order for… $6,000...The price broke all previous expectations and predictions and unless I am missing something, I don't see how the ZX1 is a $1,000 better camera compared to the Leica Q2 (priced at $5,000), but then again, I am just a Leica fanboy. Previous coverage of the Zeiss ZX1 camera can be found here and here." -By LR ADMIN | Published: OCTOBER 4, 2020
https://leicarumors.com/2020/10/04/the-zeiss-zx1-camera-the-only-leica-q2-competitor-is-now-available-for-pre-order-for-6000.aspx/
Oct 04, 2020 at 06:05 PM
p.34 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
IMHO Hasselblad beat them to the punch with the X1D II & the 45P. Price is close and you can do your edits with a Bluetooth connected ipad or iphone.
Oct 04, 2020 at 10:31 PM
p.34 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Wesley Perrault wrote:
IMHO Hasselblad beat them to the punch with the X1D II & the 45P. Price is close and you can do your edits with a Bluetooth connected ipad or iphone.
But with the X1D II and most other cameras, you need to transfer the large RAW files to the phone, if you don't want to lose quality and flexibility in subsequent editing. With this camera, you can edit first, and then send a resized version to your phone or directly to an internet location or social network.
IMHO Hasselblad beat them to the punch with the X1D II & the 45P. Price is close and you can do your edits with a Bluetooth connected ipad or iphone.
But with the X1D II and most other cameras, you need to transfer the large RAW files to the phone, if you don't want to lose quality and flexibility in subsequent editing. With this camera, you can edit first, and then send a resized version to your phone or directly to an internet location or social network.
Oct 05, 2020 at 04:17 AM
p.34 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Hadn't thought of it this way, really shows off the price! You can get a crop medium format camera + lens for a little more.
Wesley Perrault wrote:
IMHO Hasselblad beat them to the punch with the X1D II & the 45P. Price is close and you can do your edits with a Bluetooth connected ipad or iphone.
Wesley Perrault wrote:
IMHO Hasselblad beat them to the punch with the X1D II & the 45P. Price is close and you can do your edits with a Bluetooth connected ipad or iphone.
Oct 05, 2020 at 04:57 AM
p.34 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
AcuteShadows wrote:
But with the X1D II and most other cameras, you need to transfer the large RAW files to the phone, if you don't want to lose quality and flexibility in subsequent editing. With this camera, you can edit first, and then send a resized version to your phone or directly to an internet location or social network.
It'll be interesting to find out what Social Media is actually integrated and directly supported from ZX1's UI. On Zeiss ZX1 page they just say "Social Media: Yes" without any specifics. In the very early days after ZX1 was announced 2 years ago their promo video showed Drop Box integration and Zeiss were in talks for supporting various other Social Media integration but there's no clear information about that integration level anywhere as far as I've seen. I don't suppose it will work like a full-blown Android Wi-Fi tablet including Google GMS apps & Google Play access for downloading any Android apps. More likely a forked Android which requires tailored apps and close co-operation between Zeiss and each integration application / service provider. Anyway, I think they should provide more details on how it actually works now that it is available for pre-orders in the U.S.
Anyway, I'm not considering buying it but would be curious to see detailed reviews and how it actually works.
Wesley Perrault wrote
IMHO Hasselblad beat them to the punch with the X1D II & the 45P. Price is close and you can do your edits with a Bluetooth connected ipad or iphone.It'll be interesting to find out what Social Media is actually integrated and directly supported from ZX1's UI. On Zeiss ZX1 page they just say "Social Media: Yes" without any specifics. In the very early days after ZX1 was announced 2 years ago their promo video showed Drop Box integration and Zeiss were in talks for supporting various other Social Media integration but there's no clear information about that integration level anywhere as far as I've seen. I don't suppose it will work like a full-blown Android Wi-Fi tablet including Google GMS apps & Google Play access for downloading any Android apps. More likely a forked Android which requires tailored apps and close co-operation between Zeiss and each integration application / service provider. Anyway, I think they should provide more details on how it actually works now that it is available for pre-orders in the U.S.
Anyway, I'm not considering buying it but would be curious to see detailed reviews and how it actually works.
Oct 05, 2020 at 05:23 AM