I'm 84 and the R PRO that is coming should take me to my end, replacing my 5DSR and using my EF L lenses, and my 5 A7R Sony cameras. Times have sure changed from my Canon "Brownie". I've had so many Canon cameras I can't even remember the names of all of them.
I doen´t do sports or BIFs. But I did not want to use any electronic viewfinder for any photographic purpose, too.
Before I checkt the actual highres and highspeed ones (over 1 million (real) pixels and 120 FPS1).
Now for me it looks like something I can and want to work with. I tested the newest viewfinder stuff of Fuji, Sony (a9/a7R III), Nikon Z7 and Canon R. They all work for me while the Canon Rs EVF indeed felt most comfortable for for me.
Of course I will wait what real world tests will tell, rent a body for a week (or two) first and wait untill the Price fells about a couple of 100 Euros. I think it would be a great offer by Canon if they copy (why not, meanwhile everything looks like a copy) Nikons 750 bundle when Nikon came late into competition a couple of years ago:
I guess an EOS R body with an RF lens, an EF adapter and the battery grip (second battery included, off course like it was common 15 years ago with my EOS D60 BG) at a Euro 2.200 bargain offer should and would be very successful and make Canon No 1 in ML, too.
Yes, I agree about the EVF. I was doubtful that I would find it acceptable vs. an OVF, but the one on the EOS R is remarkably good. I’ve had the R less than 24 hours at this point, and haven’t tried it with fast-moving subjects yet, but thus far I’m impressed.
For anyone who may care about shadow banding in pushed images, it appears the EOS R has some, and it is easy to make it come out with just a modest shadow lift.
Travis Harris feeling about Canons EVF confirms my own experience.
And yes, it offers 4k only cropped. But why anybody cares? This may be a hint for video bloggers. They can use any other camera that offers 4k without a crop (without an articulated screen of course).
I have to test the adapter myself. When I can admit Travis Harris experience concerning EF lens performence (better than on a 1DX), the "R" is a winner in my eyes.
So it happens again. I remember very good about all those 6D "winers" 6 years ago (1 card slot, mediocre AF system, FPS). 6D turned out to become very succesfull and imo still is the best available dslr body for the buck.
I will have the possibillity to get my hands on a "R" te next couple of days.
Wow! The adapter works great! Not only 4 tested Canon lenses (Canon guys told me that all work), but sometimes I trust upon what I see.
And 7 tested Tamron lenses worked, too.
But indeed they worked faster and more reliable then they do with my EOS 6D, as far I can see! I was really amazed!
But even better is the AF-point controll via touchscreen working. That is a complete new experience for me. Now I can place the point of focus where ever I want in a split of a second. Crazy! :-)
I played with one extensively at PhotoPlus yesterday and I liked it; both the Nikon Z7 and the EOS R feel better in my hands than the A7 series. The best way I could put it would be that I like the back-button layout of the Z6/7 better, but the shutter button of the EOS R was in the *exact* place my hand wanted it, and I liked some of the other controls. I primarily do landscapes so in reality I just need a box with a good sensor in it, but it was a nice feel. I'm not happy about the lack of an intervalometer; but I can deal. When the time comes to upgrade the EOS R might possibly find a way into my stable.
I've been holding myself back from buying the R because my gear spend is a little too much lately, but I really wanted to play with one. I took advantage of Lens Rentals coupon and have one in my hands for the weekend. Heading to my favorite old car junkyard tomorrow with the 24-105. Just fooling around with it in the house, I like the feel of it. I'll know much more 24 hours from now. Should be fun!
DougVaughn wrote:
I've been holding myself back from buying the R because my gear spend is a little too much lately, but I really wanted to play with one. I took advantage of Lens Rentals coupon and have one in my hands for the weekend. Heading to my favorite old car junkyard tomorrow with the 24-105. Just fooling around with it in the house, I like the feel of it. I'll know much more 24 hours from now. Should be fun!
Would be great to see some "real" pictures and know about your opinion. I myself was only able to get my hands on and shoot some faces next to me inhouse while the shops fair was running.
Been away from this topic for a few weeks now, and looking at reviews it looks like this camera is actually pretty good. I don't give a rats a**e about video, so all the complaints about rolling shutter and cropped 4k don't really apply to me. My primary concerns are the DR and the performance of the adapters for EF fit lenses. I'm pleased to see that both are non-issues (DR equivalent to 5D4 is good enough for me). It also seems to outperform the 6D2, which is my obvious upgrade path. So i suspect when funds allow i will be looking closely at buying one.
As a life long Canon shooter back to 1981 in the days of the AE-1 all the way to my present 5DMKIII with an array of L lenses, I was interested in the EOS R. I opted instead for the Fujifilm X-T3 with the 16-55 and 55-200. In the next iteration of the EOS R, I will probably sell off the Fujifilm setup, albeit at loss but that is at least 2 years away.
I will keep my 5DMKIII for weddings, airshows, BIFs and landscapes due to the lenses. Right now the X-T3 with 16-55 f/2.8 seems to be lots of fun and I love the manual controls. That said I've used CPS and it can't be beat. Great support that others can't match. Hats off to Canon.
BPsmith511 wrote:
I played with one extensively at PhotoPlus yesterday and I liked it; both the Nikon Z7 and the EOS R feel better in my hands than the A7 series. The best way I could put it would be that I like the back-button layout of the Z6/7 better, but the shutter button of the EOS R was in the *exact* place my hand wanted it, and I liked some of the other controls. I primarily do landscapes so in reality I just need a box with a good sensor in it, but it was a nice feel. I'm not happy about the lack of an intervalometer; but I can deal. When the time comes to upgrade the EOS R might possibly find a way into my stable. ...Show more →
Rather than worry about the position of the release button, you should be more concerned about the archaic sensor in the R.
I had the opportunity to shoot with one for a couple of hours on thursday, Felt real responsive and all of the files were extreamly sharp and seemed to follow focus without any problems. I did notice when shooting in servo mode and continuous shutter instead of having shutter black out, it just looked like an old time flip book if you know what i mean. I also noticed that the raw file sizes averaged between 60 and 75 megs each. Not sure why the file sizes are so large so, if anyone knows the answer please let me know. Thanks, wcj0
I wonder if dual pixel raw was turned on. My files are 40mb each with it turned off.
wcj0 wrote:
I had the opportunity to shoot with one for a couple of hours on thursday, Felt real responsive and all of the files were extreamly sharp and seemed to follow focus without any problems. I did notice when shooting in servo mode and continuous shutter instead of having shutter black out, it just looked like an old time flip book if you know what i mean. I also noticed that the raw file sizes averaged between 60 and 75 megs each. Not sure why the file sizes are so large so, if anyone knows the answer please let me know. Thanks, wcj0...Show more →
After watching this video, I will be buying the EOS R.
Don
Impressive review Don, thanks for sharing it here.
Wow, this pro photog really nailed all the naysayers to the wall with his findings shooting in a very real world environment.
So much for the "fake news" spec sheet geeks.
Not only has he debunked the fear everyone has about a single card slot but he used the camera's wifi sync capabilities to immediately show and discuss his raw images with the wedding party and guest right at the event. And then on top of that he had a third backup instantly of all his images.
Battery life sounds very nice. I think he said he shot over 12 hrs 2500 images with wifi on and only used 2.5 batteries.
Can't wait to hear how the Sony fanboys will try to attack this professional wedding photog.
Heaven forbid he tried using the Sony A9 and decided Canon EOS-R was a MUCH better camera for him.
If I keep seeing reviews that positive about the EOS-R I just might have to cave and try one out.
GAS is a terrible thing.
white wrote:
I was so impressed with the R that I dumped almost all of my Canon and bought a Sony system.
So, as you put the R through exhaustive direct tests in real-world photography, which lenses did you use and in what conditions did you do your test photographs?
gdanmitchell wrote:
So, as you put the R through exhaustive direct tests in real-world photography, which lenses did you use and in what conditions did you do your test photographs?
;-)
Well I know Canon sensors very well, I have had lots of them. And now I know first hand what the Sony sensors will. I do not need to hold the R to be disappointed with a warmed over 2 year old sensor that was behind the times when it first came out. There have also been plenty enough real world reviews to get a feel for the less than stellar AF system on the R.
Trust me, I wanted Canon to hit one out of the park as it could have saved me a lot of money changing systems. I ran out of patience with Canon after all these years.
I liked how Canon cameras felt in hand to date, but if the sensor sucks it is all for not anyway. I do find that I also like how the Sony feels in hand and the responsiveness of the AF system.
