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 p.39 #8 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread | |
snowboarder wrote:
Guys, will I see the difference in IQ between A7RIII and Z7 if I only use Leica R lenses
(the widest being 19mm)? I know Michael is very experienced with R lenses, what do you think?
How much practical difference is there in using Z7 with adapted lenses vs A7RIII?
EVF? LCD? Manual focussing?
I'd also shoot it with my Voight 125mm macro, any Z7 advantage for macro shooting?
I'm ready to get one of those and with Nikon everything would be new to me plus
I'd have to buy several Novoflex adapters...
I don’t think R glass are picky about sensor, even they do, I’s say you will expect better performance on Z than Alpha given Z has thinner top glass and R glasses were designed for film. And you said you have M10 so that you don’t care M glass on Z, big mistake, big mistake  They are perform so nicely on Z, you don’t want 45M modern Nikon output for your landscape with 90APO? This is one of biggest reason I am so happy with Z. Most of my M glasses are perform very well on Z. 21SEM is not on its peak but very usable at f8~f13 compare to Sony.
And there is virtually no difference between Nikon and Sony in term of sensor performance. Sony might have better DR at high ISO and some might prefer one’s color than others but they are negligible to me. There are some reports on Z7’s banding but it really doesn’t affect my shooting till now. I just forget about it.
I never used A7RIII, so I can’t comment on many things specifically. Z7’s EVF seems slightly better from what I can read from review who handled both. However, many claims Z7 seems having slightly more delay compare to A7RIII though I don’t know the detail which mode. I can feel there is minor delay for example at silent mode, but it is way better than A7RII I had, so it was a pleasing surprise for me at the time I got Z7, of course consider I have low expectation. (I am sure Panasonic S1 with 5.6M and 120fps and faster processor, it will kill both)
LCD is very nice on Z7. I don’t know how it compare to A7rIII, but its touch screen function is very responsive and you can pretty much do anything with it if you want. I still prefer the old way with dial and wheel and I never encounter accidently get LCD touch screen going, very very nice design I’d say.
Nikon Z7 offer auto focus stacking feature. I never used myself personally on Z7 but I did a few times with D850, very neat feature with Auto focus lens. I know Z7 has enhanced more on this feature with even cooler BW showing the focus. You might want do some research yourself for Macro shooting.
Now, for adapters, I agree with others that Kipon seems offer very nice quality adapter at 1/3 of price. And you can get them from Adorama for easy return if you are not happy. Give it a try.
Now manual focusing and ergonomics, let me highlight a few things I really love about Z compare to my PAST Sony experience.
1. EVF and LCD selection during shooting. This is one of biggest feature I like about Z. on the side of EVF, there is a button you can cycle selection: LCD only, EVF only, AUTO and Viewfinder Priority. The cool thing is you can limit selection to reduce unnecessary cycle if you don’t use all. For my case, I only enable LCD only and Viewfinder Priority. Viewfinder Priority is a life saver for me, only whenever you browser menu or change setting or do image review with eye removed, it active LCD. It feels so nature to use makes you feel you are using a SLR. I was never used to any MILC or P&S camera VF&LCD setting before. The good thing about this setting is Z will go to power save mode even you hung the camera around your body. Having EVF sensor covered will not prevent camera go to sleep, as long as you keep shooting or do the menu with button, camera will be alive. And if I am on tripod, I will just hit the side button once, I am in LCD only mode, I will never worry about suddenly lose LCD feed by accidently cover the EVF. A case happen endlessly with Sony I had.
2. LCD for Manu or auto focus, you can select three option there on screen: no focus point selection no touch shutter, focus point selection, focus point selection and touch shutter. All these function is only available during LCD based shooting meaning once you are using EVF, you can’t select focus point or touch shutter on LCD. It could be good or bad depend on where are you from. I like this. I never want active both LCD for focus selection and EVF shooting. Touch shutter is a cool feature that with a light touch on screen, camera will take the shot. So it will cover most of the cases without release cable needed. BTW, you can program the shutter delay time after touch the screen.
3. ‘i’ button for bring quick menu on screen. It is icon based can be program to any feature you’d like to have. With this feature and touch screen alone make me feel it beat D850 in field for me in term of ergonomics. I can access pretty much anything I want without need to remember anything or go deep to menu. For example: silent shutter or not, IBIS on or not, File size, set effect on etc….
4. DISPLAY button is big and easy access with thumb, you can limit the cycle option as you want. I used most often is level during hand hold stitching and histogram to prevent highlight blow.
5. Three RAW option, a must feature for me. I don’t want every snap shots become 45M. Most of my daily images are Mraw or Sraw, if Panasonic S1R offer this feature, my decision of preorder which one will be a lot harder
6. Different crop mode: I put this on one of front customer button. This is one of most used features for me during my NP visit. First of all, I prefer shooting prime lens, this offer subtle tweak perspective change during composition. And also real world situation require different format to get better iamge. You have many option to choose from such as 4X5, 16X9, DX, 1.2X etc…I also like the fact they are real crop that means your raw file size was reduced and your original image was not altered by raw program.
7. Nikon don’t have hidden trick to mess with their RAW files, means you don’t have drop bit under long exposure or Continues shooting or something like star eating or 11 bit raw etc… You don’t have to worry about either loss raw or RAW without lossless compression. Even though I have to say I still prefer D850’s raw better than Z7’s because there is still some lens profile seems cooked in RAW with Z7.
Now, some quirks for Manual focus with Z7.
1. First of all, once you zoom 100%, there is noticeable feed delay between what you see and what is in real world. I wasn’t bothered before but I have to say once I notice this, I can’t pretend it is not happening. It does affect my manual focus process under 100% zoom and it get noticeable worse with FocusByWire lens like 24-70S.
2. For sony, with any programmed button you hit for 100% view, light touch shutter, you will go back to full frame. With Nikon, you need hit “OK” button again to bring back full frame view. This is a bug to me. Quite annoy extra step in field. Though I have to say, I almost never used 100% view in manual focus EVF shooting. For manual glass shooting landscape, I use barrel with DOF scale. For AF glass, Nikon’s AF usually did better job than my manual focus actually.
This is a long post, I hope it helps you or any other have similar question regarding usage of Z.
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