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"Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread

  
 
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p.136 #1 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


There is a lot of talk on the internet about the bokeh produced from the 500PF versus an f/4 prime. I also did controlled test for this by defocusing a messy tree/leaf image at different degrees of defocus. I shot both lenses (FL and PF) at f/5.6. So this was to test any inherent issue produced by the PF element and not for f/4 vs f/5.6.

In my testing, I could not find any detrimental bokeh from the PF element at equal apertures. Therefore, I challenge anyone who claims the PF element is an issue with bokeh to post comparison images between the two to prove it.

Nervous bokeh comes from a combination of VR use (sometimes) and a certain distance from focal plane to the "messy" background. Heat waves and other "bad air" can make it much worse.

Just have a look through the 500/4 Image thread to see many examples of messy, nervous bokeh even at f/4 due to poor location of the background relative to the subject.
Here are a few examples I quoted before out of that thread when similar claims were made in the past....
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1290613/7#14861975
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1290613/7#14925873
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1290613/4#14707008

Good backgrounds and lack of nervous bokeh comes from choosing your backgrounds properly. If you can't control your background then you have a choice to make if the image is worth taking or not. Of the three images examples I linked to I surely would have still taken the lion and heron shot, the bokeh is off but the shot is still great. The first one could go either way for me, that bokeh is more shot ruining to me.

One stop will help a little bit but most times with a messy background it won't do enough to matter.



Jul 30, 2019 at 09:13 AM
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p.136 #2 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


arbitrage wrote:
Nervous bokeh comes from a combination of VR use (sometimes) and a certain distance from focal plane to the "messy" background. Heat waves and other "bad air" can make it much worse.


My experience exactly Geoff.

And if you can't always control the B/G or keep ISO down as much as you'd like, judicial use of the gaussian blur tool can be very handy for eliminating high ISO colour noise and for smoothing out "nervous bokeh" on backgrounds.



Jul 30, 2019 at 09:25 AM
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p.136 #3 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


snapshot with this amazing lens







Jul 30, 2019 at 05:53 PM
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Jul 30, 2019 at 06:12 PM
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p.136 #5 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Just got the lens yesterday after an eight month wait. Test in the back yard as a quasi macro lens. Hoping for good things in the weeks to come. Air show in a few weeks, should do well there.




Jul 30, 2019 at 11:05 PM
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p.136 #6 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


'more/better' haha, reminded me of Captain Jack Sparrow who said 'much more better'


Jul 31, 2019 at 05:52 AM
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p.136 #7 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


I got to take the lens out on the 'yak today. This lens was made for kayak photography. The small size makes this lens a dream for this application.

high key dragon by Daniel, on Flickr


landing tricolor by Daniel, on Flickr


bad hair day by Daniel, on Flickr


leaf reflection by Daniel, on Flickr


fly by tricolor by Daniel, on Flickr


long neck tricolor by Daniel, on Flickr



Jul 31, 2019 at 10:37 AM
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p.136 #8 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


A pair of Feruginous Owls from the dry forests of Guanacaste Province in Costa Rica.







Jul 31, 2019 at 01:50 PM
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p.136 #9 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Precious capture Bruce.
When In CR I got 5 different species but not this one. I wish. Plus a pair!



Jul 31, 2019 at 06:28 PM
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p.136 #10 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Diver down by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr


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p.136 #11 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


MedicineMan404 wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48427143581_ce15cee413_o.jpgDiver down by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr


Great shot!



Jul 31, 2019 at 08:04 PM
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p.136 #12 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


[glancing up by Daniel, on Flickr


blown hair by Daniel, on Flickr


out front duo by Daniel, on Flickr


in the mouth by Daniel, on Flickr


duo by Daniel, on Flickr


in the dark by Daniel, on Flickr


branch extension by Daniel, on Flickr



Edited on Aug 01, 2019 at 02:48 PM · View previous versions



Aug 01, 2019 at 09:39 AM
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p.136 #13 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


I've parted ways with my Canon 1DX2, and as such the D500 + 500PF are now my primary birding rig. It was definitely a tough decision, but in the end the diminuitive size/weight, outstanding IQ and solid AF all just made sense. While there are fringe cases where the 1DX2+600+1.4 is the better choice, most of the time the D500PF will be able to get the shot; I think I'm ok with making that trade-off for the smaller, lighter package.

I'm still keeping the 600mm around, as I do have the EOS R to use it on if there's just no other option. I'm also curious to see what Canon offers in their next gen releases.







Aug 01, 2019 at 10:02 AM
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p.136 #14 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Some shots from the backyard...the majority with the 1.4TC...
































Aug 01, 2019 at 09:37 PM
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p.136 #15 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Fabulous hummer shots!

Did you have to run the AF Fine Tune with the 1.4x?



Aug 02, 2019 at 06:28 AM
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p.136 #16 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Chris B. wrote:
Fabulous hummer shots!

Did you have to run the AF Fine Tune with the 1.4x?


Thanks
Yes I did have to dial in some significant AF Fine Tune...one of the cameras is +13 or so....can't remember the other one.

EDIT: Just checked my Fine tune values. +13 was actually for the 1.7TC. For the 1.4 I had +3 on D500 and -10 on D850.

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Aug 02, 2019 at 08:04 AM
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p.136 #17 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


arbitrage wrote:
Some shots from the backyard...the majority with the 1.4TC...


An absolutely amazing set of images

bruce



Aug 02, 2019 at 08:24 AM
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p.136 #18 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Chris B. wrote:
Fabulous hummer shots!

Did you have to run the AF Fine Tune with the 1.4x?


I know this wasn't directed at me, but I wanted to confirm that my lens was spot on bare, but needed a +5 AF fine tune with the TC.



Aug 02, 2019 at 09:08 AM
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p.136 #19 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


My first test with the 1.4 TC after AFMA. Works for me...

through the weeds by Daniel, on Flickr


threat from above by Daniel, on Flickr


standing tall by Daniel, on Flickr


green perch dragon by Daniel, on Flickr



Aug 02, 2019 at 09:57 AM
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p.136 #20 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Looks like some hummers have made back to the Dallas area.


D850, 500PF, 1/2000, F5.6, ISO 450


D500. 500PF, 1/2500, F5.6, ISO 640



Aug 02, 2019 at 12:44 PM
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