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"Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread

  
 
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p.11 #1 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Not sure why some are so concerned on how this lens will compare to 300 f2.8, 500 f4, 600 f4, etc.

That is not the market target for this lens. It is for those who don't want or need the weight or expense of those lenses.

My 300 PF on my D500 gives very sharp results and the AF for small & fast-moving subjects. While others may certainly have got better results than mine below with any of the above lenses, I would not have. And many others would not have. That is simply because they and myself could not wield the above super-teles to get the shots in the first place.

So just like the 300 PF, there are many who will find a 500 PF better for themselves than than a 500 f4, etc.

It matters not if other lenses have better IQ & AF for those unable to use them.

I have hundreds of shots where my 300 PF/D500 combo has grabbed and locked onto a small subject at a great distance with a busy background.

"Different lenses for different photographers".






















Aug 11, 2018 at 11:02 AM
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p.11 #2 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Imagemaster wrote:
...My 300 PF on my D500 gives very sharp results and the AF for small & fast-moving subjects. While others may certainly have got better results than mine below with any of the above lenses, I would not have. And many others would not have. That is simply because they and myself could not wield the above super-teles to get the shots in the first place.

So just like the 300 PF, there are many who will find a 500 PF better for themselves than than a 500 f4, etc.

It matters not if other lenses have better IQ & AF for
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Very well put...
For some money is not an obstacle to making a purchasing decision, and for others weight is not an obstacle.
On the flip side, there are many where both budget and mass are significant factors. In these cases, the PF lenses appear to provide the opportunity for those willing to spend a fair of money to get the benefits of modern optics and a reduction of mass.

Regardless of what one chooses to attach to the camera, getting to your desired location and making strong compositional decisions will have a greater impact on the final image than shooting with the most perfect lens. For those who can have it all... good for you!


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Aug 11, 2018 at 11:40 AM
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p.11 #3 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


I would only consider buying the 500 PF if the AF and IQ was considerably better than the 300 PF with the 1.4x TC.

And of course I would also expect it to do both better than the 200-500.



Aug 14, 2018 at 08:42 PM
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p.11 #4 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Imagemaster wrote:
I would only consider buying the 500 PF if the AF and IQ was considerably better than the 300 PF with the 1.4x TC.

And of course I would also expect it to do both better than the 200-500.


If it doesn't do better than the 200-500 than Nikon has lost it's marbles....I really doubt it will do much better than the 300PF/1.4TC....maybe better at going far to near where the 300PF suffers IME.

It will be a tough sell if the price is as high as NR reports (even for me ). But as I've said, I'll be looking more towards it being used as a relatively lightweight 700/8 where the 200-500 sort of fails (although can be used for some stuff) and the 300PF can't reach.



Aug 14, 2018 at 08:57 PM
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p.11 #5 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


I am likely to wait to see the 600 5.6 PF.


Aug 15, 2018 at 08:54 AM
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p.11 #6 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


In the meantime.







Aug 17, 2018 at 12:27 AM
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p.11 #7 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


bs kite wrote:
I am likely to wait to see the 600 5.6 PF.


Same here. Especially if the lens is $4300 USD then I'd rather spend that kind of money on a 600. Even though the 600 will be a few $1000 more than that.



Aug 17, 2018 at 05:37 AM
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p.11 #8 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


bs kite wrote:
I am likely to wait to see the 600 5.6 PF.


I am still interested to see how (if) that 600 f/4 DO shakes out.

I love my 300PF, but I'm not personally interested in this one. When I want decent tele in a really small lightweight package for a tough hike, or just in case I see something on a business trip, the 300PF is perfect. This just seems a bit too slow, a bit too short, and a bit too big for me. Of course, that's all just personal preference. I do hope sales are enough to justify continued expansion of the PF line. Though I'd like the next one to be a 300mm f/4 Z lens.



Aug 17, 2018 at 08:02 AM
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p.11 #9 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


I don't think that "less than 1kg" claims are true, but 1.2kg seems realistic




Aug 21, 2018 at 12:28 AM
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p.11 #10 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


maratus wrote:
I don't think that "less than 1kg" claims are true, but 1.2kg seems realistic

https://s22.postimg.cc/eidf8bemp/Size_comparison_500mm_PF.jpg


1.2kg seems optimistic. This is supposedly built to higher standards than 200-500 more like the f/4 superteles and I'd expect more like 1.4-1.5kg even if all plastic. Which is still amazingly light.



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p.11 #11 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


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1.2kg seems optimistic. This is supposedly built to higher standards than 200-500 more like the f/4 superteles and I'd expect more like 1.4-1.5kg even if all plastic. Which is still amazingly light.


It's skinnier than 70-200/2.8 everywhere except for the very front part and has fewer elements (and supposedly smaller mid/rear elements to emphasize weight reduction). I don't see why it can't be lighter than 70-200/2.8 (1.4kg) while maintaining the same build quality.



Aug 21, 2018 at 01:57 AM
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p.11 #12 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


maratus wrote:
It's skinnier than 70-200/2.8 everywhere except for the very front part and has fewer elements (and supposedly smaller mid/rear elements to emphasize weight reduction). I don't see why it can't be lighter than 70-200/2.8 (1.4kg) while maintaining the same build quality.


We can just start guessing and see who get‘s closest.
So my guess is 1.380g !
( without anything, just the bare lens)



Aug 21, 2018 at 02:28 AM
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p.11 #13 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Looks like the announcement is in 1 day. My guess is 1.250g

https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/22/also-coming-tonight-nikon-z-system-roadmap-development-of-z-noct-nikkor-58mm-f-0-95-release-of-500mm-f-5-6e.aspx/



Aug 22, 2018 at 03:00 PM
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p.11 #14 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Official pics....now onto the real important stuff:

PRICE and WEIGHT



But it does look like that might be an Arca Swiss foot...not totally sure.
Having the lens buttons is a big plus for me as it gives me one more easily accessible AF mode without using the stupid AF-Mode switch.












Aug 22, 2018 at 06:43 PM
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p.11 #15 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Around $6,000CDN plus tax


Aug 23, 2018 at 12:12 AM
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p.11 #16 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


3.2lbs and SRP $3600 (US)


Aug 23, 2018 at 12:20 AM
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p.11 #17 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Thang wrote:
3.2lbs and SRP $3600 (US)


Really? https://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-af-s-500mm-f-5-6e-pf-vr-lens-officially-announced-32616

I don't think either £3699 or €4299 converts to $3600US.



Aug 23, 2018 at 12:26 AM
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p.11 #18 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


these prices are all surely wrong, because according the great and almighty molson

molson wrote:
It will be a lot lower than that, at least in Canada; likely under CAD$4,000.


when Geoff asked if he had a source for the above info

molson wrote:
Yes, I do.


guess he needs a new source



Aug 23, 2018 at 12:31 AM
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p.11 #19 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


1,460g
95mm filters
3600 USD MSRP (according to dpreview), which I hope wasn't a typo. I expected 4300 USD based on the EUR price

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4738757196/pricing-and-availability-announced-for-compact-nikon-500mm-f5-6e



Aug 23, 2018 at 12:35 AM
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p.11 #20 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


nikonos6 wrote:
We can just start guessing and see who get‘s closest.
So my guess is 1.380g !
( without anything, just the bare lens)


Hey there!
This means I will be quite accurate with my assumption - 1460 g with the foot, so without that could be quite correct



Aug 23, 2018 at 12:45 AM
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