p.1 #1 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Not an experimental shot this time, just a little astro...
Just spent three days back at Island in the Sky reconning for a few future images, as well as shooting the Milky Way, finally! Been out during the full moon lately, so this was a breath of fresh air, both literally and figuratively. Had some really good seeing for two nights, and the Zodiacal light was so bright that images of the eastern horizon captured the Gegenshein (backscattering of interplanetary space dust on the side of the earth away from the sun). The Tamron 15-30 is an exceptional lens (esp. for the price!) for this kind of shooting, but now I'm drooling over a couple of Sigma Art lenses...
Didn't get much sleep in three days, but well worth the quick trip out there.
p.1 #5 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Beautiful image. Nice work!
Apr 19, 2018 at 09:38 AM
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p.1 #6 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Sweet image! Congratulations!
My only constructive feedback is that if it was mine I would be tempted to move the sky away from green and yellow to slightly cooler, and maybe reduce the luminosity of the upper part of the more distant land a bit more. I feel it's less of an issue on the left as it is on the right. I think slightly darker would look a bit more natural.
Still very nice as it is.
I also love that the stars and milky way are not overdone which seems somewhat popular these days.
p.1 #7 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Mark Metternich wrote:
Sweet image! Congratulations!
My only constructive feedback is that if it was mine I would be tempted to move the sky away from green and yellow to slightly cooler, and maybe reduce the luminosity of the upper part of the more distant land a bit more. I feel it's less of an issue on the left as it is on the right. I think slightly darker would look a bit more natural.
Still very nice as it is.
I also love that the stars and milky way are not overdone which seems somewhat popular these days.
Hey thanks, Mark, appreciate that you took the time to check it out.
I went back to try and figure out why those distant cliffs appear a bit brighter than the closer ones, and whatever it is is in the source files (i.e. it's not an adjustment). That being said, I'm glad you noted that those cliffs might/should be darker, because as I was working the image my eye kept going back to them to check out the detail I (I guess I was surprised they looked as they did, but it didn't occur to me that attention might be focused 'over there'). I'll tweak that when I get a chance.
As far as the colors go, I guess I haven't yet figured out 'where I want to be' with regard to galactic color temperature. As I'm sure you know, between airglow and particulate matter in the atmosphere (both of which can change rapidly, moreso the former), sometimes it's hard to know what's... real? I know some astrophotographers like to remove airglow to the extent that they can, but I'm not there yet. Kind of lucky to be able to work with a sky with so little light pollution, as it makes some of these subtle variations (from minute to minute, even!) quite visible in images. Of course, when it changes really quickly it can cause serious issues with panos, but such is life in the desert.
p.1 #9 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Mark Metternich wrote:
Sweet image! Congratulations!
My only constructive feedback is that if it was mine I would be tempted to move the sky away from green and yellow to slightly cooler, and maybe reduce the luminosity of the upper part of the more distant land a bit more. I feel it's less of an issue on the left as it is on the right. I think slightly darker would look a bit more natural.
Still very nice as it is.
I also love that the stars and milky way are not overdone which seems somewhat popular these days.
I'll second this. Definitely go cooler. Also ... I'd say that some of the nearer foreground could be left in the shadows ... put more focus on the interesting stuff.
p.1 #10 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Mark Metternich wrote:
Sweet image! Congratulations!
My only constructive feedback is that if it was mine I would be tempted to move the sky away from green and yellow to slightly cooler, and maybe reduce the luminosity of the upper part of the more distant land a bit more. I feel it's less of an issue on the left as it is on the right. I think slightly darker would look a bit more natural.
Still very nice as it is.
I also love that the stars and milky way are not overdone which seems somewhat popular these days.
Derek Weston wrote:
I'll second this. Definitely go cooler. Also ... I'd say that some of the nearer foreground could be left in the shadows ... put more focus on the interesting stuff.
Great shot.
Here is a post-processing re-work of a different pano shot at 30mm, with otherwise similar capture info. Tried to cool it off a bit without creating blue haloes around brighter stars (a common by-product of making night skies more blue).
Any better?
Shot at 30mm
Apr 20, 2018 at 12:13 PM
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p.1 #11 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Jeff wrote:
Here is a post-processing re-work of a different pano shot at 30mm, with otherwise similar capture info. Tried to cool it off a bit without creating blue haloes around brighter stars (a common by-product of making night skies more blue).
Any better?
I like your original better, but think with some careful adjusting it could be perfect.
I think the image is so awesome I think it worth absolutely mastering.
The blue haloing is easily corrected in a variety of ways such as careful color blurring in PS. If you would entrust me with the TIFF/PSD I'd take a crack at it and record it (MP4 Video) as a FREE lesson if you want. I do this for a living (for over 10 years) so, you don't have to worry about copyrights... I delete everything after I am done. I literally fill galleries for people...
But again, going from green/yellow to blue is just my preference. But I do believe the luminance on the land could be easily improved too...
p.1 #12 · New Moon at Taylor Cyn., Canyonlands N.P.
Mark Metternich wrote:
I like your original better, but think with some careful adjusting it could be perfect.
I think the image is so awesome I think it worth absolutely mastering.
The blue haloing is easily corrected in a variety of ways such as careful color blurring in PS. If you would entrust me with the TIFF/PSD I'd take a crack at it and record it (MP4 Video) as a FREE lesson if you want. I do this for a living (for over 10 years) so, you don't have to worry about copyrights... I delete everything after I am done. I literally fill galleries for people...
But again, going from green/yellow to blue is just my preference. But I do believe the luminance on the land could be easily improved too...
Wow, very generous offer Mark, thanks! I will probably take you up on that if you are serious. I have a client buying a 60" print, and I want to make confirm whether or not they have any preferences concerning overall color temp before proceeding.
This image (foreground, in particular.) definitely pushes the limits of the 5Ds, and I definitely need to learn how to better handle the sensor's characteristics for printing, as it was enough of a challenge to get it this far.
Thanks again, and I'll contact you via email soon.
-Jeff
PS: I very much like the first image posted as well, mostly jumped through that hoop to tweak color temp...
