p.6 #1 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Similar to Mathieu's guess, I expect price between $799-899 (more likely $899 list).
I'm happy with the Sony 24-105G, since I use the lens often at 24mm, and occasionally out to 105.
I've also wondered at the dearth of once popular 35-XXX zooms with the popularity of 16-35 by all camera makers. Seems a no-brainer as a two lens combo.
p.6 #2 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
GMPhotography wrote:
Certainly would be nice if the quality is at the 24-105 level. I would certainly consider this for the 2.8 if thats the case. But Im not rushing to sell my 24-105 until its fact for sure.
I ran into some really low light shooting last night and had to pull out my 28 f2 and 40 1.2 which is not fun for a PR gig. Stage stuff the 24-105 was fine but there is a limit for F4 sometimes. Obviously I think many would prefer 2.8 in some cases. Just have to see if there predictions is real world or not. Im still going ahead with my Loxia 25 or Batis 25...Show more →
I wish Sony spent more time on low light flash af assist. Manual focus with bifocals or trifocals is not fun.
p.6 #3 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Jonathan Brady wrote:
Image of the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 vs the new E mount 28-75 f/2.8 from Tamron's FB page. The new E mount lens is about the same length but with MUCH LESS girth.
Leaving out the 24-27mm range must enable a reduction in girth
Either that or they are going the route of having lots of software correction
p.6 #4 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
GMPhotography wrote:
Certainly would be nice if the quality is at the 24-105 level. I would certainly consider this for the 2.8 if thats the case. But Im not rushing to sell my 24-105 until its fact for sure.
I ran into some really low light shooting last night and had to pull out my 28 f2 and 40 1.2 which is not fun for a PR gig. Stage stuff the 24-105 was fine but there is a limit for F4 sometimes. Obviously I think many would prefer 2.8 in some cases. Just have to see if there predictions is real world or not. Im still going ahead with my Loxia 25 or Batis 25...Show more →
I apologize if this is too obvious, but what do you mean when you say "PR gig"? All I can think of is either "Personnel Relations gig", or "Photography Related gig".
p.6 #6 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
GMPhotography wrote:
Public relations or event type work. Meetings, cocktail parties, awards ceremonies. Stuff like that
Bread and butter work which keeps food on the table. 😂
Oh ok. Thanks for the explanation
That actually sounds like pretty good work. Would I be correct in assuming that it is less stressful than doing weddings? Not to downplay it or anything, its just weddings sound like they're a LOT of stress.
p.6 #7 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Yes I hate doing weddings to be honest. I’ve done several over the years both in a traditional way and also my way but I do not enjoy really doing. I like the ceremony stuff but don’t like the rest. So I avoid them. PR stuff can be stressful . I shot for a lot of corporate clients and the CEO stuff you gotta nail usually with very little time. But not on the level of weddings. Honestly I can’t even read the wedding forums how some people approach them. I get so mad there are too many hacks on that side of photography. Let’s just call it very non Professional and the under cutting of pricing is really bad.
p.6 #8 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Gunzorro wrote:
Similar to Mathieu's guess, I expect price between $799-899 (more likely $899 list).
I'm happy with the Sony 24-105G, since I use the lens often at 24mm, and occasionally out to 105.
I've also wondered at the dearth of once popular 35-XXX zooms with the popularity of 16-35 by all camera makers. Seems a no-brainer as a two lens combo.
People who are shooting with zoom kits are often aiming to absolutely minimise lens changes (or switching from body to body with different lenses) so having some decent overlap between them significantly reduces changes. especially in this range: you could be shooting wide and want to go to 35 quite often, and be shooting normal and want to go down to 24 or so.
p.6 #9 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
DavidBM wrote:
People who are shooting with zoom kits are often aiming to absolutely minimise lens changes (or switching from body to body with different lenses) so having some decent overlap between them significantly reduces changes. especially in this range: you could be shooting wide and want to go to 35 quite often, and be shooting normal and want to go down to 24 or so.
28mm used to be very wide for a normal zoom. Remember the Canon 28-70/2.8L? I had one and it sucked at the long end.
Nikon also had one before they all moved to 24-70mm.
I hope that Tamron (cough cough...Batis) pulls it off and gives us a compact, high IQ, f/2.8 zoom.
p.6 #10 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
DavidBM wrote:
People who are shooting with zoom kits are often aiming to absolutely minimise lens changes (or switching from body to body with different lenses) so having some decent overlap between them significantly reduces changes. especially in this range: you could be shooting wide and want to go to 35 quite often, and be shooting normal and want to go down to 24 or so.
My simple solution is to carry two bodies and two lenses if needed, so little need to mount or un-mount.
p.6 #11 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Fred Miranda wrote:
28mm used to be very wide for a normal zoom. Remember the Canon 28-70/2.8L? I had one and it sucked at the long end.
Nikon also had one before they all moved to 24-70mm.
I hope that Tamron (cough cough...Batis) pulls it off and gives us a compact, high IQ, f/2.8 zoom.
Yep. I couldn’t believe it when I first saw a standard zoom that started at 28. It’s standard, yet it has a real wide start!
I really do hope this one turns out. If it’s optically really good, it’ll be the first standard zoom that has interested me for a decade. A standard zoom for me needs to be small enough to be a “I’m not super serious so it needs to be tolerable around the shoulder rather in a bag”. And it needs to be f2.8 for a bit of separation for people. It’ll be a while before we get a 24-70 that does both those things and is good.
Re Batis: read an interesting interview by the Batis manager at Lenspire about the B18 which suggests that Zeiss is not very hands-off, and has some real input. He was describing the initial designs, and how he had to lobby at Oberkochen for the four double sided aspherics in his favored design because others thought that it would be too hard to manufacture reliably. And then he talked about when the first prototypes came he was worried, because they had a run of prototypes, and they were to be measured to see if measured performance matched predicted, and if not his preferred design would be ditched for another. He said he had a sleepless night before the measurements came in.
So we still don’t know, but sounds like at the very least Zeiss commissions multiple designs, with input into them, then chooses between them and demands tweaks, and then has more input at the prototype stage. So without that input Tamron may or may not do as well....
p.6 #12 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Well we have our hopes up but likely as not it’s just another case of “No Free (or greatly discounted) Lunch.” The first obvious compromise is 28 instead of 24mm on the wide end. I find 24mm more important to me than the long end because I typically have a second body with a 70-200 GM.
p.6 #13 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
SoundHound wrote:
Well we have our hopes up but likely as not it’s just another case of “No Free (or greatly discounted) Lunch.” The first obvious compromise is 28 instead of 24mm on the wide end. I find 24mm more important to me than the long end because I typically have a second body with a 70-200 GM.
Just like that 2nd body can have a 70-200, it can also have a 16-35, depending on whether you shoot more wide angle or short tele. A light fast 28-70 would fit into my travel setup very nicely thank you.
p.6 #14 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
This would be a PR type lens for me like my 24-105 but I’m okay with 28mm as the start of the zoom and certainly like a 2.8 instead and after 75mm I’m picking a prime anyway. So effectively this would work for me but only if it’s smaller , lighter than my 24-105 which is very good for a zoom. Also could be a great travel lens for a lot of folks with maybe some wide primes like a 15,20/21 lens in there bag to cover the wider side . Just have to see if it is good. I’ll rent it first and test it
p.6 #16 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Doing weddings for years....I would have one body with a 16-35 and the other with a 70-200 and be fine, carry maybe a 50 1.2 for those special settings and portraits. Problem is that 70-200 2.8 is just too heavy. Would love a high quality 50-150 2.8 that is light. ...that with the 16-35 would be ideal Canon used to make a 50-150 3.5 I think, was a pretty good optic, but slow focusing. I am now carrying the 24-105, a 16-35 2.8,an 85 1.8 and a canon 135L for those islolation shots outdoors. Still too much lens switching.
p.6 #17 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Yep- if it’s good it’ll be my travel lens along with the Batis 18 and one fast small prime. Wait and see game at this point I guess.
GMPhotography wrote:
This would be a PR type lens for me like my 24-105 but I’m okay with 28mm as the start of the zoom and certainly like a 2.8 instead and after 75mm I’m picking a prime anyway. So effectively this would work for me but only if it’s smaller , lighter than my 24-105 which is very good for a zoom. Also could be a great travel lens for a lot of folks with maybe some wide primes like a 15,20/21 lens in there bag to cover the wider side . Just have to see if it is good. I’ll rent it first and test it...Show more →
p.6 #18 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
550 g weight is impressive for a constant f2.8 zoom. It's even lighter than 24-105/4. I had Tamron 70-200/2.8 when I was with Nikon and it's a great lens, very sharp and nice bokeh.
If its price is less than $1300, sharp, fast AF than I believe this is a good choice for travel.
p.6 #19 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Yeah, that 70-200mm is a beauty, and in time it will find its way to FE mount action no doubt. They have come a (very) long way, have Tamron. Their $1200 G2 24-70/2.8 is also fully competitive.
Interesting story from David re the Batis 18mm. 'he had to lobby at Oberkochen for the four double sided aspherics in his favored design' sounds like a conservative firm outsourcing innovation. The Tamron designers have a story to tell that we'll never hear.
This 28-75 will be an instant hit at reasonable (rumored) money. Sony are very lucky they got the 24-105 out before it. The older (16/14, 500g) 28-75 is now over decade old and Tamron are a much stronger outfit now. The new release will drag buyers from everywhere - prime users will love its 550g weight (lighter than CV 65/2, Loxia 85/2.4 and FE 35/1.4) and range - 75mm is arguably better than 24mm. Tamron has a great record in LoCA control as well.
In a 3:1 mid-zoom the wide end is where all the design shenanigans happen, and a 75/2.8 is close to prime specs, can be cropped to 85/2.8 with ease. Pros will find it a great match for the bodies in tight spots and it will have fast AF, solid materials and moisture resistance. It weighs 300 grams less than the GM with the same speed and great center dominance, at over $1000 cheaper. Light travel users will love it. New entry Sony users also, having coughed up a lot for the expensive bodies.
It gives a full stop over the 24-105 everywhere, meaning its f4 IQ will be excellent - the 24-105 is rather poor wide open in the outer frame, to be expected. The 28-75 has half the MFD as well (19cm -vs- 38cm), and will provide many more bokeh opportunities for these two reasons. Faster, lighter, cheaper and closer. These are all real world advantages, not matters of opinion. Tamron designs now have the best coverage in FE lenses: 18 / 25 / 28-75 / 85 / 135, time for a Batis 100/2 (with CZ 'approval', of course). 2018 may belong to Sigma, Tamron and (we hope) more from CV and others. Lots of fast primes and solid zooms, up and down the range. Good times are here at last, the market can now work its magic.
