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p.3 #1 · 4K monitor advice


Milan Hutera wrote:
It might surprise you, but the well known lanscape photographer Hougaard Malan (used to post here as well) recently "instagrammed" that he was diching his 5K iMac and going back to 1440p Dell screen. He said that at 5K is extremely difficult to judge the sharpness and noise levels on his photos, editing at 1:1. I'm inclined to believe this to be true. The file from my camera could fit into the 5K iMac without any ability to zoom in. If I zoomed in any way, I woul'd be going past 1:1 and we know how that goes. So
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It is very easy to change the resolution for sharpening.

The 5K iMac is the best overall monitor for viewing photos.

Colors (P3) are not at the level of the Eizo/NEC PA monitors but the overall package is fantastic.

5K also makes it very easy to cull images; you can tell in a glance if your subject is sharp.




Nov 18, 2017 at 11:20 AM
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DaveFP wrote:
It is very easy to change the resolution for sharpening.

The 5K iMac is the best overall monitor for viewing photos.

Colors (P3) are not at the level of the Eizo/NEC PA monitors but the overall package is fantastic.

5K also makes it very easy to cull images; you can tell in a glance if your subject is sharp.



Let me requote Hougaard again: "The (5K screen) just gives virtually no feedback on sharpness and noise whilst editing at 100%. Zooming past it is just misleading."

Change resolution for sharpening?.... What?

Colors (P3) are not at the level of Eizo/NEC PA.... You're making no sense here. Are you comparing P3 to Adobe RGB that those monitors are capable of diplaying?

You can tell at glance if your subject is sharp.... Hougaard just said it's extremely difficult to properly judge shaprness and noise. You should read carefully before replying.



Nov 18, 2017 at 11:40 AM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
Change resolution for sharpening?.... What?


Yes, I open Photoshop in the 'low resolution' mode for evaluating sharpening on my 4K. It is an extra step going back and forth but this process works just fine for me.




Nov 18, 2017 at 11:48 AM
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Rajan Parrikar wrote:
Yes, I open Photoshop in the 'low resolution' mode for evaluating sharpening on my 4K. It is an extra step going back and forth but this process works just fine for me.



Exactly.




Nov 18, 2017 at 11:52 AM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
Let me requote Hougaard again: "The (5K screen) just gives virtually no feedback on sharpness and noise whilst editing at 100%. Zooming past it is just misleading."

With all due respect to Mr. Hougaard; I've have involved in photography since 1964 and have shot digital since 2002.
I have a pretty good idea with regard to most topics on these forums.

Change resolution for sharpening?.... What?

Exactly; you change the monitors resolution to one that better enables sharpening.

Colors (P3) are not at the level of Eizo/NEC PA.... You're making no sense here. Are you comparing P3 to Adobe RGB that those monitors
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See above.




Nov 18, 2017 at 11:56 AM
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This site might be interesting http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/testberichte.html. In foreign language though

Jarmo

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Nov 18, 2017 at 01:50 PM
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I use 32" NEC 4K, I highly recommend this monitor, the color gamut is amazing and the screen uniformity is great. The calibration solution is very accurate and simple to use.




Nov 18, 2017 at 02:33 PM
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HaJa wrote:
Peter,

It is a bad idea to have many calibrated screens close to each other

I have had only, maybe five monitors to calibrate in my life and have had them always show better picture calibrated!

The one I have now is maybe 8 years old HP LP2475 or something and it still calibrates ok.

How about the text size on screen, when you go up with resolution?

Jarmo


In-parallel colour calibration/running of a few monitors helps in deciding which one works best. However, I've given up on the attempts of having them all colour consistent. My dependable BenQ I use for photo editing only.
The 5k HP monitor is for routine internet tasks.....it's great on resolution, skewed on colours.
The text scaling is done on one (primary) monitor, the others are turned off.



Nov 18, 2017 at 03:12 PM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
He said that at 5K is extremely difficult to judge the sharpness and noise levels on his photos, editing at 1:1. I'm inclined to believe this to be true.


I found this to be the case as well when upgrading to my Dell UP3216Q 4K monitor. Much harder to judge sharpness and noise levels. The monitors I really love for culling photos are the Dell 30's with the 16:10 aspect ration and 2560 x 1600 resolution. For my eyes at least they are heaven for initially judging photo IQ.

In general I feel that monitors are like digital cameras now. They have gotten so good that the differences are really just niggling on the edges. I had Eizo monitors a long time ago and while they were excellent I would not pay the premium for them now.



Nov 18, 2017 at 03:19 PM
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How do you scale the text?

Jarmo



Nov 18, 2017 at 03:20 PM
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cameron12x wrote:
My needs are similar to yours (although I plan to stay on Windows 10).

After some cursory research (including reading through this thread multiple times), at this writing it has come down to these two monitors for me:

ASUS PA329Q 32"
BenQ PD3200U 32"

What has your research uncovered?



I was keeping an eye on BenQ before starting the thread but this thread help me limit it down to the following.

32” BenQ SW320 (~$1100)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1308753-REG/benq_sw320_32_led_monitor_3840x2160.html

BenQ PV3200PT 32" 4k monitor (~$1000)
Dell UltraSharp 4k UP3216Q 31.5" Screen LCD Monitor

BenQ BL3201PH 32" (~$700)

I am sure both NEC and Eizo are good monitors and may be top of the line but out of my price range

Thanks,
Faizan



Nov 19, 2017 at 06:22 AM
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HaJa wrote:
This site might be interesting http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/testberichte.html. In foreign language though


Thanks for the link. There is a version for the international readers though:

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/reviews.html



Nov 19, 2017 at 08:10 AM
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p.3 #13 · 4K monitor advice


Full disclosure: I'm a monitor dunce.

Ok! With that out of the way, I'm considering buying the 27" iMac and adding extra RAM (for a total of 40GB). From what I can tell, it has a great screen and can handle large (50MB) files in Lightroom/Photoshop. Am I wrong?



Nov 20, 2017 at 03:01 PM
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p.3 #14 · 4K monitor advice


ox0312 wrote:
32” BenQ SW320 (~$1100)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1308753-REG/benq_sw320_32_led_monitor_3840x2160.html


Where are you seeing the BenQ SW320 for $1100? When i click that link I see $1,483.99. If I saw it for $1100 I suspect I wouldn't be able to resist and would pull the trigger instantly.




Nov 20, 2017 at 03:45 PM
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p.3 #15 · 4K monitor advice


While we're on the topic of 4K monitors, can anyone recommend some reasonably priced video cards to drive a 4K monitor? My primary uses are general use (email, web browsing), photo processing, and occasionally watching streaming videos. I don't do any gaming.

Thanks.



Nov 20, 2017 at 03:53 PM
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vbnut wrote:
While we're on the topic of 4K monitors, can anyone recommend some reasonably priced video cards to drive a 4K monitor? My primary uses are general use (email, web browsing), photo processing, and occasionally watching streaming videos. I don't do any gaming.

Thanks.


For about $120 USD you can get the nVidia P400. It's a workstation card, so it's targeted to that market, as opposed to the gaming market. It's the bottom of the product line, but it has plenty of capability, for instance it will drive 3 4k displays. It is a low-profile card, so do check that it includes an adapter plate for standard height chassis.



Nov 21, 2017 at 11:26 AM
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