nampramos wrote:
I just can't see anything wrong with my photos or other shared here from the VM. I'm only taking photos though instead of looking at every technical aspect of a lens.
Glad there's two versions so that everyone can be happy.
I can tell you what would bother me about the pictures on the previous page. In your first two shots there you have a nice rule of thirds composition on the right third, but then on both those shots the fence comes into focus on the left edge in a way that draws my eye away from the people. Also John Dizzo's shots of the man on the corner of the street and the bicycle rider bother have FC that bothers me. The bush in focus to the left of the man on the corner and the truck to the left of the bike rider both are sharp because of field curvature and draw my attention away from the subject. For my taste I think all four of these shots would be better with the E mount version. Not that any of them are bad--they aren't and if you are happy with your shots that is always what is most important. I just noting what would bother me.
Fred Miranda wrote:
That's just not the case. Induced field curvature can be quite pronounced and affects wide open apertures as well. In many cases, you subject will be sharp and the corners instead of being our fo focus will be sharp as well. I don't think anyone wants that.
Also, it's clear you never tried the CV 40/1.2 lens. It's amazing for landscapes starting at f/4. (Sharp edge to edge)
The M-mount version on the Sony body would restrict the usability of the lens.
The reason I would not use it for landscapes is because I don’t like 40mm as a landscape lens...nothing to do with not having shot with one. I’m either shooting wide or around 100mm for my landscapes.
Also restricting usability by using the M version, you are only looking at things from a manual focus view. The M version opens up opportunities due to its AF abilities that the E version would struggle with.
SharpContrast wrote:
Sample footage of the new Voigtlanders 😀
I can't believe how sharp the 50mm is in this video, I presume it was wide open.
Shot on a non native a7s as well, so should be even better on a Leica!! 😀
I'm really looking forward to this lens coming out, going to be great for pictures of the kids with the techart adapter.
12 Aperture blades, and spot on rendering! 😎 🕺
Looking forward to this one. the 50/1.5 may end up finding a new home!
SharpContrast wrote:
I can't believe how sharp the 50mm is in this video, I presume it was wide open.
Shot on a non native a7s as well, so should be even better on a Leica!! 😀
I just can't wait for this lens to come out, going to be great for pictures of the kids with the techart adapter.
12 Aperture blades, and spot on rendering! 😎 🕺
I've got a feeling this VM mount 50mm 1.2 will have been designed to work well on the A7 Series, being that there is no e-mount option. Also isn't it easier to do this when you get to this focal length and higher?
nampramos wrote:
I just can't see anything wrong with my photos or other shared here from the VM. I'm only taking photos though instead of looking at every technical aspect of a lens.
YMMV, but I don't see the point of getting a ~$800 lens and don't care about the results.
Very glad I got the e-mount. I got the best adapter (the sigma) and really didn't care for the adapted lens' results.
The E-version Nokton's integration with close focusing makes an incredible difference. And honestly, I seriously could not use a smaller lens manually. I just couldn't. Even with it's nice big focus gear, I find this lens a little small. (but then again, I'm fine with a Canon 1D and 85/1.2II, so everything Sony seems small to me.) This size, weight, and balance seems perfect to me.
I don't see the point of getting a ~$800 lens and don't care about the results.
I don't see anyone saying or thinking that.
Personally, I need the AF (one kid who doesn't like photos taken, the other made of pure twitch muscle who never stops moving). The reduced MFD is also handy at times.
zaphodm wrote:
I don't see anyone saying or thinking that.
Personally, I need the AF (one kid who doesn't like photos taken, the other made of pure twitch muscle who never stops moving). The reduced MFD is also handy at times.
SharpContrast wrote:
I've got a feeling this VM mount 50mm 1.2 will have been designed to work well on the A7 Series, being that there is no e-mount option. Also isn't it easier to do this when you get to this focal length and higher?
bjornthun wrote:
Perhaps an E mount version comes out later?
Yeah, if it's supposed to work well with the E mount sensor why would they only show an M mount version and say that it's available for demo while the E mount 21/3.5 is show model only?
Now back to pictures.
A quick snap of the girls while mini-golfing (we lost to the one on the right).
40/1.2 + f=2m Proxar.
These days I just keep the Proxar mounted on the 40/1.2 and take it off only when imaging something not closer than 1.5m or so.
Even with the Proxar (which is nicely multi-coated) flare does not seem to be an issue with severe back lighting.
This lens is fulfilling my fast, wide-ish carry around town candid capability. Would love if it were AF, but then it wouldn't be small and as light as it is and I it would be terribly expensive.
My EX+ condition Elpro 4 is going up for sale if anyone is interested.
@rscheffler@ shows a 50mm 1.2 in E-mount...at least that is what the display label says, since the rear cap is on.
I stand corrected! as they say.
That's good news.
Wonder how the 40/1.2 and 50/1.2 are supposed to live side-by-side - maybe the 50mm is going to be way more expensive it it's extremely well corrected wide open.
Luvwine wrote:
While what you say makes a lot of sense, I don't see any reason to limit the applications of the lens. It actually works terrifically well for landscapes once stopped down to F5.6 or so. The lens is also at optimal infinity focus at its hard stop once stopped down to F5.6 (some say F4) or smaller. Anyway, for me it is nice to have added versatility (and the lens has great sun stars) but different strokes for different folks....
True, true. It's only a character lens until about f/2.5, at which point it abruptly morphs into a scalpel. I've done a few head-shoulders portraits at f/2.8 and sheesh! You can count pores.
I've been directed by Her Majesty to never let these see the light of day, so you may have to take my word for it.
