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Phil, again I'm sorry if you took my initial post serious enough to respond to it when I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. I'm also very perplexed that you took time to dress me down on a public forum without even being pointed out, as I had gone to great lengths to explain to you that I wasn't referring to you in a follow up post, and that seemed to go flying right over your head, as you had it in your mind that I was singling someone, perhaps you, out.
You took a post that I had gone out of my way to post, explaining that I wasn't referring to you personally, but that somehow got your ire to attack ME PERSONALLY once again. I honestly thought I had conveyed my thoughts as to why I hadn't referred to you. I give up, as I was pretty plain as to my rebuttal towards your accusation.
The sad, sad state of affairs here isn't that YOU personally didn't "get it", but you had 5 people that seemed to want to pile on your personal attack as well, so far. It will probably go up after this post, even though I said nothing to point at you directly. I am guessing that there are people who honestly don't believe that you can describe a condition that's going on in the background without singling anyone out, but alas, someone will always jump in in a rebuttal, like there is some sort of accusation aimed at them. I would suggest to you it's an admission of guilt, only in a more cowardice way. 
I hope you're happy, as you have taken it upon yourself to dress me down personally for describing a global problem without pointing anyone out intentionally. Now the people who are behind your attacks can "side" with you, and find me to be somehow "combative" when I went out of my way to explain that wasn't what was going on here. Don't forget, as you think up your rebuttal to this post, that it was YOU who had interjected yourself here without being called out personally. Again, I have done my best to explain my intent, that I wasn't even marginally close to coming near you personally in my rebuttal, but you don't seem to want to believe me. At least it seems that way to me.
I have noticed a returned enthusiasm of some folks to keep on bashing the 6D Mk II, like they have been "reinvigorated" to do so for some uncanny reason. I will continue to post my enthusiasm for the camera without calling anyone out. I just don't know how many ways someone can say the same thing over and over and over again. We get it. You guys don't like the camera, and it seems now that it just continues to rain on our parade.
Unfortunately, a post to try to calm down the issue NEVER leaves a good taste in anyone's mouth who are determined to have their way with the ability to keep on, keeping on. That's just a fact....Show more →
This was never about me taking anything personally from the original post at all. This wasn't even about me or specifically (or entirely) about you.
I think you'll find that there are those of us who are incredibly tired of being constantly forced by canon defenders to explain WHY we want more DR, and when we do, it being suggested we're trolls for doing so or that we're rubbish photographers!
"You" (I use quotes throughout to highlight it's not just you) are actually putting us in that defensive position. We can either ignore it or disagree with it.
"We" should never have any need to explain why "we" want more DR, nor whether our artistic choices are acceptable or not. You will also find that it's never (or almost never) that "we" will tell "you" that you *need* more DR. You'll find "we" accept that you don't want/need more DR, but "you" won't accept that "we" do want it.
And when this argument continues, "you" give up on what you see as failing logic and suggest "we" are trolls, for defending against a position that "you" called "us" out for!
Enough is enough.
"You" need to accept that "we" want more DR and stop questioning it. THEN we'll start to get along better.
"and it seems now that it just continues to rain on our parade" - to me this is the root of the problem. You don't like that we don't like it. You want us to like it as much as you like it. Sadly that, my friend, is not our problem ... that's your problem. I don't question why "you" like it or that "you're" happy. Again, it's "you" who starts this by trying to make "us" like it.
Fundamentally, "you" continuing to bash us will only do one thing - escalate the problem. "You" won't change "my" mind. Speaking personally for a second, as a 10ish year pro I've taken more photos than the vast majority here and I know cameras and photography inside and out. I don't need "you" to tell me what I need. And not all pros will agree. That's fine too. Just don't tell me I'm wrong for needing or wanting what I need or want.
As for the victim-based histrionics ... really? That's going to help? Your original post didn't highlight anyone in particular, I agree. Instead it took the slightly passive-aggressive stance of "I'll not say who I mean". You still said it though and clearly others are as tired of this as I am.
If your post was intended to calm the situation, you may wish to spend less time investigating the intricacies of different types of trolls, and look instead into conflict resolution, because it was only ever going to escalate. I suspect that you know this, although maybe it was just really bad judgement.
In summary ... can "you" PLEASE just accept "we" don't like it, that "we" know what "we" want/need in a camera, "our" motivations are that "we" don't like that camera and want to express our disappointment ... and "we" can agree to disagree? "We're" happy "you're" happy, but it's not for "us".
If you find you can't do that then, again and in the nicest way possible, that's not my problem. No one is able to rain on your parade unless you let them.
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, we've heard it all before, and before, and before and before and before and before and before and ... ad nauseam. It's not like we've been living in areas deeper and darker than the shadows folks want to lift into daylight. 
It just comes down to respecting what each person determines as a priority. For those happy with the DR from the 5D3 (which can be maximized by sticking with ETTR or HAMSTTR), the 6D2 betters the 6D in other ways.