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Peter Figen wrote:
I think that the Makro Planar is very similar if not identical, except for coatings, to the Milvus. At least that what I remember the Zeiss representative for southern California telling me at the time. The lens is exemplary on both 35mm and GFX format, but simply does not like extension tubes at all. Resolution and color fringing go to hell very quickly and do not improve with stopping down, but up to half life size, it's a hard lens to beat, even though there's a tiny amount of easily corrected blueish color fringing. What makes that lens extraordinary
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I will test it soon 😉



Jul 29, 2022 at 04:42 AM
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p.78 #2 · Adapting Lenses to the Fuji GFX


Hi
anyone here using Contax 645 lenses on Fuji GFX body? Any recommendation for adapter please?
I'm not sure if Fringer is as good for the cost but if it is then I may go for it. Recommend?



Jul 29, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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p.78 #3 · Adapting Lenses to the Fuji GFX


prashant wrote:
Hi
anyone here using Contax 645 lenses on Fuji GFX body? Any recommendation for adapter please?
I'm not sure if Fringer is as good for the cost but if it is then I may go for it. Recommend?


I have used the Contax 645 35 f/3.5; 55 f/2.8; 80 f/2; and the 120 f/4 APO macro and I used the Finger adapter and thought it worked well. I use the GFX 50s which only has contrast detect AF, so AF was slow but was accurate. I usually manual focussed, however, which was faster and as accurate for me anyway. The lenses are all very nice, but you should know what you want. For example the 35 f/3.5 won't be as sharp of a landscape lens as the Fuji GF 30, and the 80 f/2 is not that sharp wide open at all. These are twenty year old designs and the age shows. One exception is the 120 f/4 APO macro, which is fantastic and I believe is the best macro I have ever used.



Jul 29, 2022 at 10:37 AM
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I have used the Contax 645 35 f/3.5; 55 f/2.8; 80 f/2; and the 120 f/4 APO macro and I used the Finger adapter and thought it worked well. I use the GFX 50s which only has contrast detect AF, so AF was slow but was accurate. I usually manual focussed, however, which was faster and as accurate for me anyway. The lenses are all very nice, but you should know what you want. For example the 35 f/3.5 won't be as sharp of a landscape lens as the Fuji GF 30, and the 80 f/2 is not that
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Thanks Steve. Appreciate the response. Yes, I think I can do without AF hence the question. I'm not sure if the adapter allows for any other metadata. Yes, some lenses may not be as sharp. On my Aptus back it seems 80/120 do well. Not tested 35mm yet.




Jul 29, 2022 at 11:21 AM
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prashant wrote:
Hi
anyone here using Contax 645 lenses on Fuji GFX body? Any recommendation for adapter please?
I'm not sure if Fringer is as good for the cost but if it is then I may go for it. Recommend?


I'm also using the Contax 120mm f/4 Macro, or is it Makro. Fabulous lens with less than zero backlash in its focusing helicoid and goes to 1:1, unlike the Fuji 120 macro. The only thing sharper is likely the Rodenstock 105, but that's a different animal altogether. There seem to be plenty of these available on eBay in the $800-$1000 range. I found mine from Sean at Camera West in Palm Springs for $795 and then found a hood online for $50 used. And those hoods are full on metal with a bayonet attachment and deep as hell. Fringer seemed to be coming out with a new Contax to GFX adapter a couple of months ago and the only place to get it from - and I had to wait a couple of weeks - was from the Fringer website itself. The adapter itself works flawlessly, but it does include a rather useless Arca-Swiss foot bolted to the bottom of the adapter which both doesn't rotate and is too narrow to actually clamp in most A/S type clamps. It just wobbles around in my RRS clamps and is barely acceptably tight in my A/S Cube. My next project, well, not the next, but soon, is going to figure out how to design my own rotating clamp with foot to replace that. That Fringer adapter, unfortunately, was $700, about two bills more than the EF to GFX adapter but it certainly works.

Fast forward to last week. Since I already had the Fringer for the Contax, I looked a what other lenses were out there from Contax, and ended up buying a 210mm f/4 Sonnar for around $300. So cheap that it was worth taking a chance on. I've been testing it for the last few days and the results are interesting. The auto focus is very snappy and accurate on the GFX 100s. That's the good news. Well, there's more good news. The lens is very sharp and has a minimum focusing distance of around 5 feet, but it's almost as if there are two lenses in one with this lens. Images up to about 100 feet away are just fabulous and sharp at every aperture until diffraction hits. You start to see mild degradation at f/16 so I would consider that the limit. Here's were it gets weird. At longer distances - say - fifty to a hundred yards - and more toward the frame edges, there was a wide soft blue color fringing that got better as you stopped down and was more or less manageable by f/11 where Capture One's magical chromatic aberration correct could then take care of it. I think I'll be keeping the lens and just using it for those closer subjects where it excels.

I shot basically the same set of test images outside my studio yesterday with the Canon 200mm 2.8 which was very very sharp with zero color fringing and maybe only a slight softening toward the edges wide open but rapidly improved with stopping down. The 200mm .2.8 does have a mild case of corner vignetting wide open which improves with stopping down and also improves with closer subjects. Then I shot my Canon 200mm 1.8 on the same set of images and while it was bitingly sharp in the center, it has a similar but smaller amount of blue fringing near the edges at the longer distances, which also improved with stopping down, plus a very mild dose of corner vignetting wide open which disappeared as you focused closer, and at those closer distances there was zero evidence of any fringing even wide open. Then I finally shot the same images with the Fuji 100-200mm zoom at the 200mm end of the zoom range and surprising, or not, found it to be similar in performance to the Contax at the furthest distances - softer on the edges with a lot of blueish color fringing that improved with stopping down but never really went away. And of course, that lens starts of at f/5.6 so you'd hope that the mild maximum aperture would have let them design in even better performance but I guess that's why that lens is only, what, $2200 or so.

Maybe there are other options out there like the Mamiya or the Pentax in the 200mm range but I'd have to buy another adapter or two and the lenses themselves to test and still no guarantee that they'd be any better that what I've currently got.

Weirdly, it seems that the best all round 200mm lens I have for the GFX is the Canon 200mm 2.8, despite its mild vignetting, which seems to be quite correctable in Photoshop. The vignetting control in C1 does not come close to matching the vignetting profile of the lens but it's a simple fix in Ps if I want to correct it at all.

So now it's time to make a list of where each one of these lenses performs its best and put Post-Its on them all, or at least make a strong mental note.




Jul 29, 2022 at 11:35 AM
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I'm also using the Contax 120mm f/4 Macro, or is it Makro. Fabulous lens with less than zero backlash in its focusing helicoid and goes to 1:1, unlike the Fuji 120 macro. The only thing sharper is likely the Rodenstock 105, but that's a different animal altogether. There seem to be plenty of these available on eBay in the $800-$1000 range. I found mine from Sean at Camera West in Palm Springs for $795 and then found a hood online for $50 used. And those hoods are full on metal with a bayonet attachment and deep as hell. Fringer
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Thanks for sharing Peter. Interesting to know about canon.
I've 80mm, 45mm, 35mm, 140mm and 120mm. I did get Pentax set to test but sold it recently. I'm testing Mamiya 50mm SHIFT lens. And it is very sharp from 5.6 to circa f14. And shifts in all direction much like Olymus little shift lens. Do I understand correct that Fringer allows for some metadata like focal length etc?




Jul 29, 2022 at 11:54 AM
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prashant wrote:
Thanks for sharing Peter. Interesting to know about canon.
I've 80mm, 45mm, 35mm, 140mm and 120mm. I did get Pentax set to test but sold it recently. I'm testing Mamiya 50mm SHIFT lens. And it is very sharp from 5.6 to circa f14. And shifts in all direction much like Olymus little shift lens. Do I understand correct that Fringer allows for some metadata like focal length etc?



I've been using the Canon 50mm t/s-e Macro on the GFX as well (and the 90 and 135) and they all work exceedingly well. I think the biggest liability is that they only shift 12 millimeters where a native Fuji shift would likely shift more like 15 or 16mm. But since I already had those three, why not use them.




Jul 29, 2022 at 12:25 PM
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p.78 #8 · Adapting Lenses to the Fuji GFX


Oh, and yes, the Fringer does indeed report the focal length of the Contax lenses.


Jul 29, 2022 at 12:26 PM
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Just playing with 24mm TSE-II on the GFX100s.

+/-7mm shift to get square format 44x44.
20220717_Milpitas_0035_Panorama by Vishi A, on Flickr



Jul 29, 2022 at 12:33 PM
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Agree with Peter, Canon 200mm f2.8 is very nice on the GFX. I wish Fuji has something between 110mm f2 and the 250mm f4 at f2.8 atleast. 250mm f4 which I have is a slow lens that I use for landscapes only.


Jul 29, 2022 at 12:35 PM
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p.78 #11 · Adapting Lenses to the Fuji GFX


bobby350z wrote:
Agree with Peter, Canon 200mm f2.8 is very nice on the GFX. I wish Fuji has something between 110mm f2 and the 250mm f4 at f2.8 atleast. 250mm f4 which I have is a slow lens that I use for landscapes only.


how sharpness is ef 135/2 vs ef 200/2.8 on gfx?



Jul 29, 2022 at 02:01 PM
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how sharpness is ef 135/2 vs ef 200/2.8 on gfx?


They are very similar but the 135mm has a much harder vignette unless you're focused closer than about ten feet (three meters). The Sigma 135mm f/1.8 is a much better lens optically than the Canon plus there's only a slight vignette.

Every adapted lens has its plusses and minuses and you have to figure out which might work for your own purposes.




Jul 29, 2022 at 02:36 PM
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Peter Figen wrote:
They are very similar but the 135mm has a much harder vignette unless you're focused closer than about ten feet (three meters). The Sigma 135mm f/1.8 is a much better lens optically than the Canon plus there's only a slight vignette.

Every adapted lens has its plusses and minuses and you have to figure out which might work for your own purposes.



I would also recommend the Contax 645 140/2.8 Sonnar, which is relatively compact and light weight, and it is not that expensive. The AF performance is pretty accurate with the Fringes adaptor.



Jul 29, 2022 at 03:00 PM
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I would also recommend the Contax 645 140/2.8 Sonnar, which is relatively compact and light weight, and it is not that expensive. The AF performance is pretty accurate with the Fringes adaptor.

contax 140mm very soft lens,even at f5.6 similar to f2.8 compact size,but heavy 700gr https://www.zeiss.com/content/dam/consumer-products/downloads/historical-products/photography/contax-645/en/datasheet-zeiss-sonnar-28140-en.pdf


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Jul 29, 2022 at 03:18 PM
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leonasj wrote:
contax 140mm very soft lens,even at f5.6 similar to f2.8 https,compact size,but heavy 700gr ://www.zeiss.com/content/dam/consumer-products/downloads/historical-products/photography/contax-645/en/datasheet-zeiss-sonnar-28140-en.pdf


It is a bit of a softy, but a great portrait lens. The Hassy Sonnar 150/2.8 FE starts in roughly the same place as the 140, but improves significantly stopped down if that's the kind of performance you're after (no AF, of course).



Jul 29, 2022 at 03:34 PM
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if only samyang make their af 135 1.8 in gfx mount, it would be gg


Jul 29, 2022 at 04:16 PM
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Sigma 135mm f1.8 works for me, better than 135L.


Jul 29, 2022 at 04:58 PM
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yeah the sigma 135 is one of my favorite, but the samyang 135 1.8 (for sony) was more perfect in every way lol

they would make so much money if they sell it for gf mount. it's a god-tier lens



Jul 29, 2022 at 05:10 PM
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ftllens wrote:
yeah the sigma 135 is one of my favorite, but the samyang 135 1.8 (for sony) was more perfect in every way lol

they would make so much money if they sell it for gf mount. it's a god-tier lens


It looks like they designed that from the git-go for an even shorter flange distance so maybe that'd be a total from the ground up redesign, but I really don't know anything about that lens. What, in your mind, makes it even better than the Sigma? Still learning at this age. ha.




Jul 29, 2022 at 05:50 PM
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it's not sharpness (same sharpness as the sigma), the MFD is the main thing and the bokeh balls are rounder towards the edges. just the overall rendering with these two things make it nice (and also the APO-like performance). it's basically the sigma 135 and batis 135 rolled into one.

it's also lighter cause composite shell (even tho it's big it doesn't feel heavy, only 160g more than batis and 200-400 g lighter than gm or sigma).

it's also 950 now brand new lol

i sold it cause i sold my sony, but if i got a1 again, it's the first lens i would buy (over the gm even)



Jul 29, 2022 at 05:58 PM
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