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Aug 01, 2017 at 11:10 PM
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nice man
I really like #2/3 the interior ones



Aug 01, 2017 at 11:19 PM
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Dj R wrote:
Enjoy your Sunday, everyone!


DJ - are these cropped?

The reason I asked is because the 24 1.4G at the same framing seems to have more subject iso than this, which doesn't make sense because the (longer) 28 should have more subject iso. If this is cropped, then yes I will understand. I'm trying to justify buying this lens btw

So far I'm struggling to find a $1500 difference in rendering between this and the 28 1.8G. Serious.

@elijah what do you think?



Aug 03, 2017 at 02:52 PM
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Joseph. wrote:
DJ - are these cropped?

probably yes
I'm away from my computer atm




Aug 03, 2017 at 03:05 PM
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I had to get rid of nikon 28 1.8 very soon due to af inconsistency, folding on sigma 35 1.4


Aug 04, 2017 at 03:40 AM
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Joseph,

The real differences seem to be with focus shifting and field curvature of the 1.8 compared to the 1.4. The 1.4 handles more like a pro lens and is built to pro standards. If those issues do not bother you, then the 1.8 is definitely a steal for the price.

-Greg



Aug 04, 2017 at 04:22 AM
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The differences between the 1.8 and 1.4e are:
1) 1.8 has much weaker correction for SA and thus will have focus shift which will throw off the AF if you take pictures stopped down to say 5.6 and the subject is close enough to not have a large enough DOF to hide the focusing error.
2) The 1.4e is much sharper in the 1.8 to 2.8 aperture range, especially in the center.
3) The 1.4e has much better coma correction in the corners which will lead to better AF on objects towards the edges of the frame and better for astrophotography.
4) The 1.4e has more ED glass and thus has less LoCA than the 1.8, although it is far from APO itself.
5) The 1.4e has better flare/ghosting handling than 1.8.
You obviously pay more for those extra ED elements and aspherical elements which give you the better performance mentioned above. Whether you see the difference is dependent on the type of shot and whether that extra performance is worth it to you.



Aug 04, 2017 at 06:06 AM
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@wayne summed it up nicely
I don't think the 1.8 has ANY ED glass in it, though, so one correction.

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And I have this to add, myself:


The 1.8G is a tricky lens. It produces smooth images and is a relative steal.

I do agree, the focus shift on the 1.8G was very hard for me to figure out, when I owned it. I owned it twice, too. Actually, I don't know that it can be tamed.

On the other hand the 1.4E doesn't have any odd curve at all. In fact, it is easily the most enjoyable 1.2 or 1.4 lens I've ever used or owned, with regard to focus shift and shooting wide open.
And I've had the following: 24 1.4L II, 35 1.4L, 35 1.4L II, 35 1.4 sigma art, 35 1.4G, 50 1.2L, 58 1.4G, 85 1.2L II, 85 1.4G, 105 1.4E. The 105 1.4E easily comes in second for easiest 1.2 or 1.4 lens to shoot wide open. So it must be in the new technology that Nikon is using.

Anyone intrigued by the 28mm 1.4E should definitely start with the 1.8G for a few months. Just to make sure he/she likes the focal length. I've said that before, but it's worth repeating... people buy a lens, and soon say "I can't get used to this FL". And 28mm is one of those. 24/28/35/50/85, love it or hate it! But I'd say 24/28 are the toughest for folks.

I think for me, I love the ability to shoot wide open, so comfortably. No curve to manage. Wide open & SHARP! But I also love the versatility. I have a 2 year old. So while I prefer to just use a backup lens, like my 50mm 1.8G when I'm shooting at home, there are times when I am indoors and want something wider. 35 is not wide enough for indoors, for me. The 28mm is nice here. For shooting groups, professionally, the 28mm is a better choice there. It came in handy at a wedding Friday night. We were stuck on a small dock, and the 35 wouldn't have worked, literally. We would have been forced to use a 24-70.

Size/Weight wise, the 28E is just a tick longer and heavier than a 35 1.4G. And a little longer than the 28G, and a LOT heavier. Except when you're weighing the cost.

Finally, the 28E is just flat out the best lens in it's class. It's ED and then some. It's going to be better on a D800/810 body with all those megapixels. And so it's future proof and ready for the D850.

If you're on a budget, the 35mm 1.4G at $950 used/9 is an amazing professional lens. If I were a pro, I'd get the 35 1.4G , but only if money were tight.

The E lenses are a HUGE success. The 105, the 28, the 70-200. I've had them all. They are without a doubt, superior to their peers. Nikon's new slogan should be, you gotta pay to play. Because, the new E glass is without a doubt pricey. If you feel that they are not "better" - you are just either not taking enough time to recognize and appreciate it. Or you're just thinking with your wallet, which is absolutely fine!!

With all of that said, if you're asking if it's worth it..... $1,995 USD is crazy money, to spend on a wide angle prime. YES if you have a D8xx

p.s. This and the 70-200E, and 105E, are three lenses that required either ZERO AF fine tune or up to +3 on all three of my FF bodies, d810 d750x2. A 35 1.4, 58 1.4, 28 1.8 24 1.8, these lenses were at north of +8, up to +16.

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Aug 04, 2017 at 06:59 AM
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Very good samples everyone. Love this FL!


Aug 06, 2017 at 11:48 AM
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Dj R wrote:
In fact, it is easily the most enjoyable 1.2 or 1.4 lens I've ever used or owned, with regard to focus shift and shooting wide open.


I'd agree with this actually. The 28E is probably the most reliably easy lens to shoot at 1.4 that I've had, next to the Zeiss 35/1.4 ZM. The only thing that'd make it easier is faster AF... it's not slow, but it's not super fast either.



Aug 06, 2017 at 02:04 PM
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I felt so encouraged by some of you guys in this thread that I bought this lens some weeks ago. Thank you!

Just some minutes ago I posted a little "review" with some sample photos here:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59935456

For years I have been trying to find a wide angle lens that fits my personal needs. I am a pure hobby photographer with focus on family, travel, street and sports. While I am fully aware of the fact that there is a huge difference between e. g. 20mm and 35mm I really was looking for the ONE wide angle lens that I want to have in my bag.

I like the 20mm, I really loved my 24mm, f/1.4 G, I had different 35mm lenses which all were excellent, but again, I do not want to carry more than one wide angle lens with me. Thus, I am used to often deal with the compromise to not have the perfect focal length at hand. When this new 28mm lens was announced I took a quick decision to sell my beloved 24mm and the 35mm lens I then had to pile up as much cash as possible for the 28mm, f/1.4 ED. Quite a risk...

Now, some weeks later I know that I did right. This is an amazing lens. It can do so many things and hardly shows any weakness. Sharp wide often, brilliant autofocus (!), good against the light, hardly any distortion, great out of focus performance and more. Also the weight and the balance on my D750 is perfect. It might have a bit less character than the 24, f/1.4 G, however it performs much better overall. Expecially sharpness throughout the frame is excellent.

When in need for sth wider I might add the 20mm, f/1.8 again or may be the 18-35mm. Apart from that really happy. Some samples below.



Aug 06, 2017 at 04:09 PM
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One of few reasons I returned my 28E lens...
35mm f/1.4G vs 28mm f/1.4E, see below. Worth the 1k difference? Naw...

I'd rather buy 775 McChickens for that money.












Aug 06, 2017 at 11:00 PM
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Quitter!


Aug 06, 2017 at 11:08 PM
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Elijah wrote:
One of few reasons I returned my 28E lens...
35mm f/1.4G vs 28mm f/1.4E, see below. Worth the 1k difference? Naw...

I'd rather buy 775 McChickens for that money.


Agreed. I didn't want to say much but I cancelled my pre-order a few weeks ago. I might look at getting a 28D if the prices continue to slide.



Aug 06, 2017 at 11:14 PM
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I'm still on the fence in regards to the 28E. In many ways it's exactly what I wanted but yet I remain undecided. Need to see more images to really get a better feel of how it renders in a wider variety of conditions.



Aug 06, 2017 at 11:35 PM
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Aug 06, 2017 at 11:37 PM
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Elijah wrote:
One of few reasons I returned my 28E lens...
35mm f/1.4G vs 28mm f/1.4E, see below. Worth the 1k difference? Naw...

I'd rather buy 775 McChickens for that money.


Called It!



Aug 07, 2017 at 01:07 AM
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Elijah wrote:
One of few reasons I returned my 28E lens...
35mm f/1.4G vs 28mm f/1.4E, see below. Worth the 1k difference? Naw...

I'd rather buy 775 McChickens for that money.


Great side by side example comparing the 35/1.4G. I really like the background rendering of the 28E. Of course with the 28mm you will not have as much out of focus blur, but it is very smooth.

For weddings the 35/1.4G for the most part makes more sense.

I am still looking for a 28D for less than stratospheric pricing, otherwise I may opt for the 28E or least try the 28/1.8G.




Aug 07, 2017 at 04:08 AM
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charles.K wrote:
Great side by side example comparing the 35/1.4G. I really like the background rendering of the 28E. Of course with the 28mm you will not have as much out of focus blur, but it is very smooth.

For weddings the 35/1.4G for the most part makes more sense.

I am still looking for a 28D for less than stratospheric pricing, otherwise I may opt for the 28E or least try the 28/1.8G.


Bokeh is not the strength of then 28g, but most everything else it does really well and generally punches above its weight.



Aug 07, 2017 at 06:18 AM
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Hardcore wrote:
Agreed. I didn't want to say much but I cancelled my pre-order a few weeks ago. I might look at getting a 28D if the prices continue to slide.


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swifty168 wrote:
I'm still on the fence in regards to the 28E. In many ways it's exactly what I wanted but yet I remain undecided. Need to see more images to really get a better feel of how it renders in a wider variety of conditions.


There's no doubt that the 28E is a solid performer in many ways. I wouldn't hesitate purchasing one IF the FL is right for you.
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Depth of Feel wrote:
Called It!


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charles.K wrote:
Great side by side example comparing the 35/1.4G. I really like the background rendering of the 28E. Of course with the 28mm you will not have as much out of focus blur, but it is very smooth.

For weddings the 35/1.4G for the most part makes more sense.

I am still looking for a 28D for less than stratospheric pricing, otherwise I may opt for the 28E or least try the 28/1.8G.



The comparison above is just the bokeh itself that I was up against.

The main and biggest reason for the switch back to the 35G is the FL itself.
I fell in love with the 35G after several weddings and engagements and it quickly became my favorite FL for weddings, as I mentioned
here

Now, I TRIED to love the 28mm FL. I really did. I just couldn't adapt to it.
For the most part it was too wide and the compression just wasn't there.

I don't know what it is about that 35mm that just draws me in... I love the FL!!
If and when Nikon releases a 35E, I will be ALL OVER IT, even if it cost 2.5k



Aug 07, 2017 at 06:33 AM
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