Etherton wrote:
Seeing a noticeable amount of CA there. Is that normal for this lens? I have not really noticed it much on mine but I have not had much time with it.
This was Bokeh Fringing I was talking about. OR LoCA (longitudinal CA). It can be easily fixed in LightRoom which I didn't. That was also the worst case you will expect under harsh sun backlight condition with f1.4 1/4000S and still overexposed with DF at ISO100.
This is not bad at all consider it is not labelled as an APO glass. 58G will be worse, so it is the 105E. However, the image shown in infocus fidelity of 28E tell me it is a very well corrected Lens on both SA and CA.
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PratyushPandya wrote:
Thank you for your thoughts. I enjoy street photography, and 28mm happens to be my favorite focal length. I once traveled through Europe for two weeks with Zeiss ZE lenses, and 28ZE was, by far, the most used lens on that trip.
You mention the word cinematic, and that's exactly how I perceived the images from that 28ZE.
Zeiss classic ZF/ZF.2 28mm is derived from famous "Hollywood". It has very strong field curvature.
However, I have used a few classical ZF.2 glass. (still have 50 and 85 planar and milvus 35mm) I'd say on D850 or other high density sensor you will expect noticeable performance boost with 28E at wide aperture.
But if you use Zone focus for street shooting (f8~f11), I don't know if 28E will bring anything extra to the table maybe less field curvature. The strong selling point of 28E is f1.4 performance cross most of the frame start from center.
Michael, wonderful shots within the forest and your family. Very tempted
sungphoto wrote:
I've shot the 28 f1.8G a bit on my D850 and D750, and I'd say that it lacks that extra magic of the 28 f1.4E. Like the other f1.8G primes (like the 35 f1.8, 50 f1.8 and 85 f1.8), the 28 f1.8G is sharp wide open and does a great job controlling CA, but the out of focus areas don't have as much character as the f1.4E and can get a little busy with dappled/high contrast backgrounds. There's a look to the 28 f1.4E that I could never really get out of the 28 f1.8G (shot in a similar fashion to the shots in this thread), much like how the 105 f1.4E has a gorgeous look to it wide open.
That said, you'd need to really like the 28mm field of view to justify spending the extra $$ for the 1.4E. I'd recommend picking up a 28 f1.8G first, to see if you like the FOV, and if you fall in love with it, pick up the 1.4E.
Random tidbit is that 28mm is a common focal length for cinema, so it can give a cinematic feel especially when shot close for portraits...Show more →
Sung as you mentioned the 28mm FOV is very cinematic was not so common before but everyone is now accustomed to the view with their smart phones. Personally it is a favorite of mine for street photography.
zhangyue wrote:
This was Bokeh Fringing I was talking about. OR LoCA (longitudinal CA). It can be easily fixed in LightRoom which I didn't. That was also the worst case you will expect under harsh sun backlight condition with f1.4 1/4000S and still overexposed with DF at ISO100.
This is not bad at all consider it is not labelled as an APO glass. 58G will be worse, so it is the 105E. However, the image shown in infocus fidelity of 28E tell me it is a very well corrected Lens on both SA and CA.
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Zeiss classic ZF/ZF.2 28mm is derived from famous "Hollywood". It has very strong field curvature.
However, I have used a few classical ZF.2 glass. (still have 50 and 85 planar and milvus 35mm) I'd say on D850 or other high density sensor you will expect noticeable performance boost with 28E at wide aperture.
But if you use Zone focus for street shooting (f8~f11), I don't know if 28E will bring anything extra to the table maybe less field curvature. The strong selling point of 28E is f1.4 performance cross most of the frame start from center.
That "painterly" look is something that that the 28 f1.8G doesn't have wide open. The 28 f1.8G (like the 35 f1.8G) when shot with trees and foliage in the background tends to have more contrast in the out of focus areas and looks busier.
My 28 f1.4E arrived today, and I'm happy to say based on a few snapshots around my home that it is exceptionally sharp wide open and I do like how it renders better wide open than the 28 f1.8G (which I owned previously).
One thing I wasn't expecting actually was how well balanced the lens is. It's not a small lens, but it's definitely noticeably lighter than the sigma 35 f1.4 art. I'm excited to use it for a couple weddings in August. I think I'm going to go with the popular 28 f1.4e and 58 f1.4G combo for wedding prep/dressing rooms and reception, and 58 f1.4G and 105 f1.4E for the ceremony. Also have a dozen lifestyle shoots for a publisher that I'll use the 28 a lot for given its intimate field of view.
sungphoto wrote:
My 28 f1.4E arrived today, and I'm happy to say based on a few snapshots around my home that it is exceptionally sharp wide open and I do like how it renders better wide open than the 28 f1.8G (which I owned previously).
One thing I wasn't expecting actually was how well balanced the lens is. It's not a small lens, but it's definitely noticeably lighter than the sigma 35 f1.4 art. I'm excited to use it for a couple weddings in August. I think I'm going to go with the popular 28 f1.4e and 58 f1.4G combo for wedding prep/dressing rooms and reception, and 58 f1.4G and 105 f1.4E for the ceremony. Also have a dozen lifestyle shoots for a publisher that I'll use the 28 a lot for given its intimate field of view....Show more →
Congratulations Sung! Looking to forward to your shots
Just some snapshots with this lens during an offsite with an agency I work with.
I'm really happy with it so far. I especially like the rendering in out of focus areas more than the 28 f1.8G - I found that though the 28 f1.8G was sharp, busier areas like foliage tended to look a bit too "nervous" and somewhat distracting. It has a similar color output to the 105 f1.4E, which is a very very good thing. It has a pretty significant amount of vignetting wide open - which I actually quite like. I am finding that I prefer to dial down the vignetting correction down to 50 in LR. It's exceptionally sharp at f1.4 (all of these pics were shot wide open on a D810). It definitely has a cinematic feel to it.
I'm really impressed with this lens. It's made me really appreciate the Nikon system coming from Canon (along with the 105 f1.4E, 58 f1.4G, and 70-200 ED FL). So sharp wide open, and lovely out of focus rendering.
PratyushPandya wrote:
This lens, with its focal length and rendering, is made for these kind of candid moments.
Totally agree. I am much happier with the rendering of this lens versus the 28 f1.8G. The f1.8G is a fine lens, and very sharp, but I personally feel like the f1.4E is worth the extra cost and weight/size.
This lens lets you get a bit closer than you can with a fast 35, which I feel like adds an intimacy when shooting close. I love my 58 f1.4G, but shots with the 28 f1.4E worked really well for this recent commercial shoot I did with this family as talent.
These are some of my faves from the client shoot we wrapped up yesterday. All non-retouched, with basic tweaks in LR applied. Most are a mix of ambient sun and strobe. It was quite sunny yesterday, so I was shooting the B1s at full power in some cases in order to provide enough fill balanced against the midday sun (one of the rare cases that I actually use HSS).
Excellent shots and superb lighting Sung! The 28mm FOV has always drawn me in as it is very different from 35mm which is so common. As mentioned before my favorite street lens FOV is 28mm. I look at many of my older street shots in Asia when I was using Nikon and film, I was then using 28mm, 50mm and 105mm and an old Vivitar 70-200 zoom. No much has changed
charles.K wrote:
Excellent shots and superb lighting Sung! The 28mm FOV has always drawn me in as it is very different from 35mm which is so common. As mentioned before my favorite street lens FOV is 28mm. I look at many of my older street shots in Asia when I was using Nikon and film, I was then using 28mm, 50mm and 105mm and an old Vivitar 70-200 zoom. No much has changed
Thanks Charles - I am trying to convince myself that I don't need a Leica Q now haha
