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p.5 #1 · Sony A9 Image Thread


LBJ2 wrote:
Been doing some indoor portrait tests with off camera flash. Definetly a different ball game compared to the A7rII. TTL is a mixed bag. Like you, I need more time to figure this out. If I had to figure this out quickly , Manual flash for sure. For now I am actually reading the manual!





I don't have my flashes with me... BUT that was a big fear of mine. The second I realised the meter was wonky I was like "shit, this will definitely mess with TTL". I don't mind manual exposure, in fact in ballrooms I 99% use manual mode (not even floating ISO). But I'd say 50% of the time I'm using TTL flash because it's reliable in most ballroom situations with the way I set my meter and exposure.. I only switch to non-TTL if the ballroom is problematic or if I know I'm shooting a problematic situation like spotlights on incoming bride/groom, speeches with spotlights or projectors behind the couple and etc.




May 29, 2017 at 05:19 PM
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p.5 #2 · Sony A9 Image Thread


I'd say that's a sharp picture, but shouldn't it have focused in the birds eye or face? Not the butt?

k-h.a.w wrote:
Well at 20fps the A9 doesn't seem to miss a trick!
https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2017-05-29-A970-30045-56-FE-G-OSS-Hummingbirds/i-cGJHZMC/1/11643cd6/O/_DSC4570%20Miss%20NO%20beat%20%40%2020fps_4760x3570_2380x1785_1190x893.jpg




May 29, 2017 at 06:27 PM
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p.5 #3 · Sony A9 Image Thread


adamdewilde wrote:
I don't have my flashes with me... BUT that was a big fear of mine. The second I realised the meter was wonky I was like "shit, this will definitely mess with TTL". I don't mind manual exposure, in fact in ballrooms I 99% use manual mode (not even floating ISO). But I'd say 50% of the time I'm using TTL flash because it's reliable in most ballroom situations with the way I set my meter and exposure.. I only switch to non-TTL if the ballroom is problematic or if I know I'm shooting a problematic situation like spotlights on
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Would using the option to link the exposure to the current AF target/point make things more reliable as it'll always be metering for your subject then.



May 29, 2017 at 06:37 PM
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p.5 #4 · Sony A9 Image Thread


That's what I used the other day and yes especially like backlit scenes. Now it can get fooled to if your point is hitting the shadows or highlights. It worked good except a white building fooled it


May 29, 2017 at 07:01 PM
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p.5 #5 · Sony A9 Image Thread


Definitely need to get my presets in order for manual focus work. That said, had a fun time snapping off a few non-20fps shots today.



© tom monaghan 2017


A9 with Nikon 85PC.




May 29, 2017 at 07:31 PM
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p.5 #6 · Sony A9 Image Thread


aeonsim wrote:
Would using the option to link the exposure to the current AF target/point make things more reliable as it'll always be metering for your subject then.


Tried that.. Doesn't seem to work. And I also have a SNEAKY suspicion that the spot metering is smaller or samples a smaller area then previous A7 cameras. But I'm sure the manual would clear this up if I checked. But what I find happening is that the A9 spot meter sees the eye and thinks "oh that mascara is dark, I'd better blow out the skin on the face" And my wife has really light eyes compared to most non-blue eyed models/people I shoot.

I suppose I could use centre point spot metering (not liked to AF) lock exposure and recompose, but that would defeat the purpose of having a camera that has such good eye detect.



May 29, 2017 at 10:36 PM
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p.5 #7 · Sony A9 Image Thread


GMPhotography wrote:
That's what I used the other day and yes especially like backlit scenes. Now it can get fooled to if your point is hitting the shadows or highlights. It worked good except a white building fooled it


You seem to have shot more "landscapes" than I have thus far. But you also find the meter to be a bit more accurate than what I find. I'm curious if it's my camera or it's the way I'm shooting. I know for sure that my A7rII meter gives me far less problems. And I also haven't had a problem with the A7sII (though I don't have it with me for side by sides).

BUT straight away I noticed that the meter on the A9 was unreliable. And a few other people have mentioned it. So I wonder if it's just gotten to smart for it's own good, or if Sony just hasn't ironed it all out yet. OR maybe mines just broken?




May 29, 2017 at 10:44 PM
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p.5 #8 · Sony A9 Image Thread


Yes it does seem odd mine the other day was getting a very good consistent readings on everything. I'm a little under across the board like 1/3 of a stop but it's consistent. It did get fooled on a white church so it did bleep that one time. I'm heading for Florida Wed. and hope to get more shooting in so I'm keeping a eye on it. But yes I read your reports with great interest. Keep them coming.


May 30, 2017 at 12:15 AM
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p.5 #9 · Sony A9 Image Thread


I keep looking at this threads images and it may even be better than the A7rII. Files look really rich here. Another test that we should do between them.


May 30, 2017 at 12:21 AM
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p.5 #10 · Sony A9 Image Thread


The size of the spot meter linked to AF can be adjusted (S, L). Tried that?

Overall they seem to have built a new logic and new modes around the metering so maybe that's SW bugs which will be corrected?



May 30, 2017 at 12:24 AM
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p.5 #11 · Sony A9 Image Thread


MaTiHH wrote:
The size of the spot meter linked to AF can be adjusted (S, L). Tried that?

Overall they seem to have built a new logic and new modes around the metering so maybe that's SW bugs which will be corrected?


Yep tried that. Hopefully they get on this.



May 30, 2017 at 04:27 AM
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p.5 #12 · Sony A9 Image Thread


https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2017-05-29-A970-30045-56-FE-G-OSS-Hummingbirds/i-8gLN2rk/0/0b06b3d0/O/_DSC4422%20Purple_2400x1600_1500x1000.jpg
A9 + FE 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 G OSS @ 300mm, ISO 640, f/5.6, 1/1000s.



May 30, 2017 at 04:46 AM
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p.5 #13 · Sony A9 Image Thread


LBJ2 wrote:
A9 + 24-70 /2.8 GM. I found a reason to use the 24-70 GM more often--this lens rocks on the A9. Oh and a couple of hours in unprotected 91F + temps, A9 blazing away at 20FPS/AF-C. The only thing that over heated was me!



Sweet shot man!!!



May 31, 2017 at 10:43 AM
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p.5 #14 · Sony A9 Image Thread


Backlit test photos:

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170525-01388.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170525-01409.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170525-01527.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170525-01539.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170528-02761.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170528-02762.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170527-02294.jpg

Indoor high ISO mundane shots of our kids:

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170526-01582.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170526-01583.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170527-01728.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170526-01723.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170526-01674.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170526-01694.jpg

Our kids running towards the camera:

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170527-02411.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170528-02696.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170528-02731.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170528-02736.jpg

Fun at aquarium:

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-02913.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-02911.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-02916.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-02919.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-02951.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-02886.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-03017.jpg

http://www.roseandcharles.com/gallery/galleries/2017/05/20170529-03021.jpg




May 31, 2017 at 11:13 AM
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p.5 #15 · Sony A9 Image Thread


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May 31, 2017 at 06:46 PM
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p.5 #16 · Sony A9 Image Thread


Just arrived today.. only had a few minutes to play with it..












May 31, 2017 at 11:09 PM
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p.5 #17 · Sony A9 Image Thread


GMPhotography wrote:
Really so far I see nothing any different from our current A7rII shots. Looks clean , rich in tone and color. Have to see how our inside shots will do. But they look very nice IMHO


Exactly- I don't want to poo-poo on anybody's test shots, but if I had a shiny new A9 to play with, I would be testing it on action, high-speed, low light... Seems to me that these are the areas where it could differ from previous A7 cameras.



Jun 01, 2017 at 01:06 PM
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p.5 #18 · Sony A9 Image Thread


Though the "poo-poo" shots are of great interest to a small subset of us; those who are hoping the A9 can produce enough similar excellence in that realm to allow us non-ultra-rich non-professionals to shit-can our A7RIIs and use our A9s for "everything". The A9's speed of operation, more powerful AF, and a few other attributes are very very seductive after a few uses.

Thanks to all contributors!



Jun 01, 2017 at 01:50 PM
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p.5 #19 · Sony A9 Image Thread


Good news about your camera not overheating under those conditions! I hope that's the case in general.

LBJ2 wrote:
Thank you!

Not sure what to think really. I went out birding several hours yesterday in the hot steamy Florida wetlands and swamps and again today on the Motocross track. Between Saturday and Sunday I really pushed the A9 for several hours in some very inhospitable conditions. While I didn't specifically look for over heating warning messages on my A9, I think I would have noticed if I got that warning message and could not use my camera. I didnt know there was an internet scandal until I checked Youtube and forums early this morning before I went out to
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Jun 01, 2017 at 01:54 PM
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p.5 #20 · Sony A9 Image Thread


ISO1600 wrote:
Exactly- I don't want to poo-poo on anybody's test shots, but if I had a shiny new A9 to play with, I would be testing it on action, high-speed, low light... Seems to me that these are the areas where it could differ from previous A7 cameras.


Does this match your requirements?
https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2017-05-30-A970-30045-56-FE-G-OSSExtension-Tubes/i-VzskbkD/1/d90a218c/O/_DSC6713%20Purple%20Hummer_6000x4000_3000x2000.jpg
Sony ILCE-9 + extension tubes + Sony FE 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 G OSS @ 300mm, ISO 25,600, f/5.6, 1/2000s. Image not cropped but reduced in size.
Robert Capa: “If your photos aren’t good enough, you’re not close enough.”
Extension tubes for Hummingbirds in Flight (HIF).
What a concept, first demonstrated here on FM by Tony Markle alias Imagemaster in the µ4/3 forum.

K-H.



Jun 01, 2017 at 04:06 PM
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