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p.96 #1 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Thanks Fred. I ordered the rings from Amazon via the vendor in your link and finally received them today. Works well and no more rattle in my lens. I do wish there were another vendor though. I specified expedited shipping (big mistake) and was charged $30 and it took 10 days to to get the rings. Vendor UXCELL is in HK, but rings shipped from Bahrain to London (UK) to NYC to Cincinnati to Rochester and finally via DHL courier to Ithaca, NY.


Feb 13, 2018 at 03:39 PM
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p.96 #2 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Hi, have anyone has any suggestion for Voigtlander 15mm 4.5 version 2 ? I have searched but found nothing yet, I also try to calculate the appropriate front filter but the lack of information make it's impossible.


Feb 23, 2018 at 07:05 AM
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Mathieu18 wrote:
Anyone have thoughts/tips how to better center/align the PCX in the holder? Mine has less than 1mm of play, but seems to be affecting performance. Checked the bare lens (G28) with and without filter and it’s clearly getting worse with the filter. Thoughts appreciated.


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Mathieu,
I use these gaskets and they work quite well keeping the PCX centered and still.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00858B8TQ


Scho wrote:
Thanks Fred. I ordered the rings from Amazon via the vendor in your link and finally received them today. Works well and no more rattle in my lens. I do wish there were another vendor though. I specified expedited shipping (big mistake) and was charged $30 and it took 10 days to to get the rings. Vendor UXCELL is in HK, but rings shipped from Bahrain to London (UK) to NYC to Cincinnati to Rochester and finally via DHL courier to Ithaca, NY.


I ordered the gaskets from Amazon but just can't figure out how to use one to center the PCX for use with the G28. I'm using 46->55 step-up, 55->52 step-down, and 52-55 step-up rings. The gasket is too large to fit inside the 55->52 step-down ring so I trimmed a little bit off. But the gasket is 2mm thick which leaves only 48mm into which the 50mm diameter PCX filter is supposed to fit. What am I getting wrong? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.



Mar 05, 2018 at 08:39 PM
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p.96 #4 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Are you sure that you have the correct O ring size? UXCELL also sells a 54x2.4 mm ring which will not fit. Make sure that you have the 54x2.0 mm rings. If you do then first screw the 46-55 step up onto the lens, put one O ring into the adapter on the lens (it should fit easily), center the 50mm PCX lens, convex side down, onto the O ring, screw on the 55-52 adapter, and finally screw on the 52-55 adapter ring. I screwed the 52-55 ring into the 55-52 step down ring first to get a better grip when attaching to the 46-55. There will be some compression of the O ring and it takes a bit of force when screwing down the rings.


Mar 05, 2018 at 09:25 PM
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genji wrote:

I ordered the gaskets from Amazon but just can't figure out how to use one to center the PCX for use with the G28. I'm using 46->55 step-up, 55->52 step-down, and 52-55 step-up rings. The gasket is too large to fit inside the 55->52 step-down ring so I trimmed a little bit off. But the gasket is 2mm thick which leaves only 48mm into which the 50mm diameter PCX filter is supposed to fit. What am I getting wrong? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.


i just cut 3 small pieces off a rubber band and put them roughly equidistant apart around the outside edge of the pcx filter inside the filter ring to center it.



Mar 05, 2018 at 10:33 PM
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Scho wrote:
Are you sure that you have the correct O ring size? UXCELL also sells a 54x2.4 mm ring which will not fit. Make sure that you have the 54x2.0 mm rings. If you do then first screw the 46-55 step up onto the lens, put one O ring into the adapter on the lens (it should fit easily), center the 50mm PCX lens, convex side down, onto the O ring, screw on the 55-52 adapter, and finally screw on the 52-55 adapter ring. I screwed the 52-55 ring into the 55-52 step down ring first to get a better grip
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i just cut 3 small pieces off a rubber band and put them roughly equidistant apart around the outside edge of the pcx filter inside the filter ring to center it.








Scho, I was following the instructions for the G28 and PCX1500 in the article on Phillip Reeve's site (Rangefinder Wide Angle Lenses on A7 Cameras: Problems and Solutions): "Attach 46-55mm step up, 55-52mm step down, put the 1.5m lens into the 52mm thread and clamp it with 52-55mm stepup adapter."

As soon as I read your suggestion to place the O-ring into the 46->55mm step-up ring instead, I realized why I hadn't been able to get it to fit. Your instructions worked perfectly. Thank you!

(Derek, I'd tried the rubber band method and, while it was OK, I was never confident that the PCX was perfectly centered.)



Mar 05, 2018 at 11:06 PM
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Hello,

did anybody tried Hawks adapter with Ultron 35mm and optosigma lens? Can focus at infinity be achieved?

I have ordered it a month ago but it did not came finally. I live in Europe and before reordering and waiting I would like to know if it really works

Is TAP maybe a better way to go?

Regards and thanks in advance



Mar 07, 2018 at 01:41 PM
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hanay78 wrote:
Hello,

did anybody tried Hawks adapter with Ultron 35mm and optosigma lens? Can focus at infinity be achieved?

I have ordered it a month ago but it did not came finally. I live in Europe and before reordering and waiting I would like to know if it really works

Is TAP maybe a better way to go?

Regards and thanks in advance


Yes, I've tried two Hawks and it's not possible, even adjusting infinity on the adapter. So, unfortunately, with the Hawks, you won't be able to reach infinity when using the 35/1.7 Ultron + 5m front lens.
Your best bet is getting an 'out-of-spec' cheap adapter and hope it will be short enough to allow the lens to focus at infinity.



Mar 07, 2018 at 01:45 PM
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p.96 #9 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


and TAP? does it work?


Mar 07, 2018 at 02:19 PM
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p.96 #10 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Yes, it worked with my TAP but no wiggle room. However, there could be some variation here.

hanay78 wrote:
and TAP? does it work?




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p.96 #11 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Are there no shims in the 35 Ultron?


Mar 07, 2018 at 03:53 PM
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thrice wrote:
Are there no shims in the 35 Ultron?


Unfortunately it's not easy to modify this one. There is detailed information somewhere in this thread.



Mar 07, 2018 at 04:36 PM
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p.96 #13 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Was looking for the modiffication details and did not find them. already bought 5 adaptors none of them working. I ordered hawks mainly because of this. if TAP works... maybe worth trying.


Mar 07, 2018 at 09:24 PM
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hanay78 wrote:
Was looking for the modiffication details and did not find them. already bought 5 adaptors none of them working. I ordered hawks mainly because of this. if TAP works... maybe worth trying.


I purchased 3 of these adapters and 2 of them let me focus at infinity with the 35/1.7 Ultron + 5m PCX. (with some wiggle room)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WLR536L/

I'm not sure if you get one in Germany though.



Mar 07, 2018 at 09:36 PM
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p.96 #15 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


A lot of older Leica lenses have a shim between the Lens grouping and the helicoid that sits in front of the helicoid. Perhaps a system like that is used by Cosina for lenses without floating groups.

Not my photo:



Mar 08, 2018 at 12:53 AM
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p.96 #16 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Hello,

yes. It is available. I bough 2 K&F and 2 fotodioxs. No succeed. Maybe everybody have tried already and only remainders are the long ones...



Mar 08, 2018 at 06:01 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I purchased 3 of these adapters and 2 of them let me focus at infinity with the 35/1.7 Ultron + 5m PCX. (with some wiggle room)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WLR536L/

I'm not sure if you get one in Germany though.


K&F have been replacing many of their adapters with new models which are really very nicely engineered. (I got the new Pentax to Sony one which has lovely chroned brass connections, excellent milling and matting inside, and a large and clicked aperture ring which is as good as a rayqual. And it’s exactly on spec for infinity focus with the Pentax Ltd macro I got it for (that’s another story, but if you want a moderate wide macro to give a more involved look to botanical images, the Pentax 35 works fine on full frame in the macro range, despite being APS)

But this may be bad news fir modifiers.....I think new K&F are less likely to be too short!



Mar 08, 2018 at 06:15 AM
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DavidBM wrote:
K&F have been replacing many of their adapters with new models which are really very nicely engineered. (I got the new Pentax to Sony one which has lovely chroned brass connections, excellent milling and matting inside, and a large and clicked aperture ring which is as good as a rayqual. And it’s exactly on spec for infinity focus with the Pentax Ltd macro I got it for (that’s another story, but if you want a moderate wide macro to give a more involved look to botanical images, the Pentax 35 works fine on full frame in the macro range, despite
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Still, I purchased 3 of their new ones from Amazon and two of them were short, which for my purposes was a good thing.
I have an extra 'short one' which allows for 35/1.7 + 5m infinity focusing if someone needs it.
Fred



Mar 12, 2018 at 01:14 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Still, I purchased 3 of their new ones from Amazon and two of them were short, which for my purposes was a good thing.
I have an extra 'short one' which allows for 35/1.7 + 5m infinity focusing if someone needs it.
Fred


i purchased 3 from amazon last week and all were quite short (which is what i was looking for).




Mar 12, 2018 at 01:24 PM
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hi,

they are all short, but are they short enough with the 5m plano convex one...


Without 5m lens i use Rayqual,because is the one with the most correct lenght I have found untill now.



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