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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I am a bit surprised we haven't seen a fixed lenses mini-MF camera like the RX1/X100/Leica Q type before Hassy and Fuji announced their systems.

Same here I was expecting that first. Glad they skipped that noise, though.

Oct 07, 2016 at 12:53 AM

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Lee Saxon wrote:
Same here I was expecting that first. Glad they skipped that noise, though.

Me too Lee. They launch those as trials/feeler type product I think, but lots of people would buy a cheaper FF MILC but not a premium WA fixed lens FF...seems like they are selling to one demographic largely thinking it represents another...

Oct 07, 2016 at 01:38 AM

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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Woah--that would be an impressive price. I wonder if Fuji announced the GFX, and is just watching and monitorig the reaction and chatter as influencing what they charge. That, and waiting to see how the market responds to other products (k-1, new photokina lenses, A99ii, etc.) from now till widespread availability to inform price and stratagy.

I am a bit surprised we haven't seen a fixed lenses mini-MF camera like the RX1/X100/Leica Q type before Hassy and Fuji announced their systems.

I don't think it is the style or philosophy of Fuji to be throwing out bait so to speak. Fuji has been very competitively price with their systems to date and I have strongly felt they were going market the GFX aggressively. Great news for us

Oct 07, 2016 at 03:21 AM

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Great news across the board I think. If the words the guy used about soul searching to compare a Fuji to one of the high end 35mm FF cameras (he said SLR I think but to me this compares directly to the A7R2 and it's next gen), then I hope Sony listen and price their next gen to be (more) competitive...

Oct 07, 2016 at 03:32 AM

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charles.K wrote:
I don't think it is the style or philosophy of Fuji to be throwing out bait so to speak. Fuji has been very competitively price with their systems to date and I have strongly felt they were going market the GFX aggressively. Great news for us

I like your hunches Charles...any hunches on an A7 series adding the star tracking feature from the k-1 or native ISO 64 from the D810?

Oct 07, 2016 at 12:07 PM

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Here is a link to a video from Fuji rumors in German, but gives an excellent feel for the size and feel of the GFX compared to XT2

Oct 10, 2016 at 07:26 AM

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Certainly in a language distantly related to German

It's like listening to Glaswegian for an English speaker.

Oct 10, 2016 at 07:38 AM

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p.45 #8 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)

Re the video - once you put the bigger lenses on it starts to looks huge.

Oct 10, 2016 at 09:08 AM

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Ian Boys wrote:
Certainly in a language distantly related to German

It's like listening to Glaswegian for an English speaker.

Haha, very distantly indeed. As a native german, I understand roughly 2/3 of what they say - it is "Schwiizerd�tsch", a strong dialect with very different pronounciation and some words not used in regular german.
However of what I understand, they say nothing that hasn't been reported and written dozens of times since Photokina.

It will be way too expensive for my "profile" as a shooter, but I am happy that Fuji made such a splash at the show. They have deserved it, much more exciting products than CaNikon.

Oct 10, 2016 at 01:00 PM

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GMPhotography wrote:
This is going to be a general issue for a lot of folks as I ran into it as well on MF limitations. It's going to be hard to get to one system like this(obviously depends on needs of course) as if you kind of shoot a lot of different subjects like if your a really wide shooter or long shooter. We will get limited by what lenses are out there so adapters will help. I had a 300 4.5 Mamiya lens that was pretty good but that was like a 190mm in 35 land , so not really long....Show more →

My wife saw me scribbling yesterday, looked over my shoulder for a second and said "What are you doing, decoding a secret message or something? No..wait...are those all the lenses you own?" I gave her my most "Hey, I'm innocent" look, while contemplating how far I could get with a secret code story. "Yeah," I said, "plus a few cameras." She just smiled and kind of laughed at me, lovingly (I'm an insanely lucky man). I was approximating how much cash I had in my current DSLR/A7RII setups and trying to wrap my head around what it meant to sell all of it and become a 100% fuji shooter: GFX for landscapes, XT-2 for travel/street and some wildlife.

I have to laugh at all this, having pretty well dialed in my A7RII kit for landscape and street/travel photography, which took quite a lot of research (thanks you all FM'ers!) and money. And if I decided to sell all my current gear, I have to wonder whether or not A7RII bodies/lenses will be dumped wholesale when lots of their owners are sure the performance gain by the GFX is worth it, which makes me wonder whether or not making the switch sooner rather than later makes the most sense as to not take a total bath.

I have to say, I'm conflicted at this stage. As a generalist camera, A7RII has been amazing, frustrating and so interesting as well. It has been my landscape camera and my street camera. Having the choice between going out and shooting with Leica or Zeiss or Canon or whatever has been cool and interesting, but arriving to where I am was such a haul. The adapters, research in alt lens choices, for me anyway, was driven a bit by the fact that was not in love with A7's native, compact AF lenses, and going seriously alt was just making lemonade, and finally, it's damned good lemonade, but what a journey. I can definitely see how folks who've gone fuji for their street/walk around camera have never looked back. Beautiful lenses, and so easy to choose which ones. It's not a hodgepodge of stuff with a host of work arounds to keep everything in order.

Just before the Fuji MF announcement, I had resolved to add a 90 to my A7RII kit and close my eyes and ears to anything gear related as I had pretty much solved the gear challenges I had set out to for landscape/street/travel with the A7RII. Honestly, the thought of dumping it all after feeling I just crossed the finish line stings. I think the ultimate question of "is it worth it?" will have to be answered by renting the GFX and doing my own analysis to fully answer that.

Does anyone else feel that way?

Maybemaybe

Oct 10, 2016 at 01:11 PM

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p.45 #11 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)

Ian Boys wrote:
Re the video - once you put the bigger lenses on it starts to looks huge.

I noticed that too. Especially when they put the 120 macro on it in another video I saw. I'm not shocked or appalled. The same thing will happen as it did with the A7 series. They'll be able to make a couple of smaller lenses, especially in the semi-wide and normal ranges. But then reality will kick in. Wide and ultra-wide plus telephoto lenses will need to be as big as they need to be. Pentax's FA 75mm is tiny, as you know. The DA28-45 could double as a pylon for an oil rig.

Once we turn this into a *system* the real world differences between this and the Pentax/Leica/Hasselblad will shrink. 750 grams might be half the weight of the Pentax body but it's not a lot of difference in a 6 kg system bag. I've done the math between my pentax and Leica systems. A couple of hundred grams. And if it weren't for the HUGE 28-45mm DA lens then the Pentax system would be significantly lighter than the equivalent Leica system even though the Leica body is lighter than the Pentax.

To really save weight/size in a system something has to give. It might be weather sealing, lens speed or build quality. It might be heat dissipation in the body. There's no free lunch.

Gordon

Oct 10, 2016 at 02:31 PM

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Jack Thompson wrote:
My wife saw me scribbling yesterday, looked over my shoulder for a second and said "What are you doing, decoding a secret message or something? No..wait...are those all the lenses you own?" I gave her my most "Hey, I'm innocent" look, while contemplating how far I could get with a secret code story. "Yeah," I said, "plus a few cameras." She just smiled and kind of laughed at me, lovingly (I'm an insanely lucky man). I was approximating how much cash I had in my current DSLR/A7RII setups and trying to wrap my head around what it meant to sell all of it and become a 100% fuji shooter: GFX for landscapes, XT-2 for travel/street and some wildlife.

I have to laugh at all this, having pretty well dialed in my A7RII kit for landscape and street/travel photography, which took quite a lot of research (thanks you all FM'ers!) and money. And if I decided to sell all my current gear, I have to wonder whether or not A7RII bodies/lenses will be dumped wholesale when lots of their owners are sure the performance gain by the GFX is worth it, which makes me wonder whether or not making the switch sooner rather than later makes the most sense as to not take a total bath.

I have to say, I'm conflicted at this stage. As a generalist camera, A7RII has been amazing, frustrating and so interesting as well. It has been my landscape camera and my street camera. Having the choice between going out and shooting with Leica or Zeiss or Canon or whatever has been cool and interesting, but arriving to where I am was such a haul. The adapters, research in alt lens choices, for me anyway, was driven a bit by the fact that was not in love with A7's native, compact AF lenses, and going seriously alt was just making lemonade, and finally, it's damned good lemonade, but what a journey. I can definitely see how folks who've gone fuji for their street/walk around camera have never looked back. Beautiful lenses, and so easy to choose which ones. It's not a hodgepodge of stuff with a host of work arounds to keep everything in order.

Just before the Fuji MF announcement, I had resolved to add a 90 to my A7RII kit and close my eyes and ears to anything gear related as I had pretty much solved the gear challenges I had set out to for landscape/street/travel with the A7RII. Honestly, the thought of dumping it all after feeling I just crossed the finish line stings. I think the ultimate question of "is it worth it?" will have to be answered by renting the GFX and doing my own analysis to fully answer that.

Does anyone else feel that way?

Maybemaybe...Show more →

Replace the word "Fuji" with "Leica" and I've nearly done what you've considered. Except I'm doing well at the adding gear part and not so hot at the selling gear bit.

Gordon

Oct 10, 2016 at 02:37 PM

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p.45 #13 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)

Jack Thompson wrote:
My wife saw me scribbling yesterday, looked over my shoulder for a second and said "What are you doing, decoding a secret message or something? No..wait...are those all the lenses you own?" I gave her my most "Hey, I'm innocent" look, while contemplating how far I could get with a secret code story. "Yeah," I said, "plus a few cameras." She just smiled and kind of laughed at me, lovingly (I'm an insanely lucky man). I was approximating how much cash I had in my current DSLR/A7RII setups and trying to wrap my head around what it meant to sell all of it and become a 100% fuji shooter: GFX for landscapes, XT-2 for travel/street and some wildlife.

I have to laugh at all this, having pretty well dialed in my A7RII kit for landscape and street/travel photography, which took quite a lot of research (thanks you all FM'ers!) and money. And if I decided to sell all my current gear, I have to wonder whether or not A7RII bodies/lenses will be dumped wholesale when lots of their owners are sure the performance gain by the GFX is worth it, which makes me wonder whether or not making the switch sooner rather than later makes the most sense as to not take a total bath.

I have to say, I'm conflicted at this stage. As a generalist camera, A7RII has been amazing, frustrating and so interesting as well. It has been my landscape camera and my street camera. Having the choice between going out and shooting with Leica or Zeiss or Canon or whatever has been cool and interesting, but arriving to where I am was such a haul. The adapters, research in alt lens choices, for me anyway, was driven a bit by the fact that was not in love with A7's native, compact AF lenses, and going seriously alt was just making lemonade, and finally, it's damned good lemonade, but what a journey. I can definitely see how folks who've gone fuji for their street/walk around camera have never looked back. Beautiful lenses, and so easy to choose which ones. It's not a hodgepodge of stuff with a host of work arounds to keep everything in order.

Just before the Fuji MF announcement, I had resolved to add a 90 to my A7RII kit and close my eyes and ears to anything gear related as I had pretty much solved the gear challenges I had set out to for landscape/street/travel with the A7RII. Honestly, the thought of dumping it all after feeling I just crossed the finish line stings. I think the ultimate question of "is it worth it?" will have to be answered by renting the GFX and doing my own analysis to fully answer that.

Does anyone else feel that way?

Maybemaybe...Show more →

there is probably something always better. I'm interested in this Fuji for sure. But I want to see how much IQ I get and how good the lenses are. The good news is I would wait until at least the 23mm is out.

I should probably just be honest with myself and say my gear is better than I am and be done with it. If I can't get a landscape shot with an A7rII, a good copy of an FE 16-35, Fred's Contax 35-70 copy, and a 70-200 f4 from any brand at this point, it's me, not the camera. I almost NEVER print at more than 16x20sh so. I can definitely see how for a pro it would matter or if you print REALLY big but otherwise I sometimes ask myself what Bud Fox asked GG in Wall Street "When is enough enough?"

Chris

Oct 10, 2016 at 04:27 PM

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Jack Thompson wrote:
My wife saw me scribbling yesterday, looked over my shoulder for a second and said "What are you doing, decoding a secret message or something? No..wait...are those all the lenses you own?" I gave her my most "Hey, I'm innocent" look, while contemplating how far I could get with a secret code story. "Yeah," I said, "plus a few cameras." She just smiled and kind of laughed at me, lovingly (I'm an insanely lucky man). I was approximating how much cash I had in my current DSLR/A7RII setups and trying to wrap my head around what it meant to sell all of it and become a 100% fuji shooter: GFX for landscapes, XT-2 for travel/street and some wildlife.

I have to laugh at all this, having pretty well dialed in my A7RII kit for landscape and street/travel photography, which took quite a lot of research (thanks you all FM'ers!) and money. And if I decided to sell all my current gear, I have to wonder whether or not A7RII bodies/lenses will be dumped wholesale when lots of their owners are sure the performance gain by the GFX is worth it, which makes me wonder whether or not making the switch sooner rather than later makes the most sense as to not take a total bath.

I have to say, I'm conflicted at this stage. As a generalist camera, A7RII has been amazing, frustrating and so interesting as well. It has been my landscape camera and my street camera. Having the choice between going out and shooting with Leica or Zeiss or Canon or whatever has been cool and interesting, but arriving to where I am was such a haul. The adapters, research in alt lens choices, for me anyway, was driven a bit by the fact that was not in love with A7's native, compact AF lenses, and going seriously alt was just making lemonade, and finally, it's damned good lemonade, but what a journey. I can definitely see how folks who've gone fuji for their street/walk around camera have never looked back. Beautiful lenses, and so easy to choose which ones. It's not a hodgepodge of stuff with a host of work arounds to keep everything in order.

Just before the Fuji MF announcement, I had resolved to add a 90 to my A7RII kit and close my eyes and ears to anything gear related as I had pretty much solved the gear challenges I had set out to for landscape/street/travel with the A7RII. Honestly, the thought of dumping it all after feeling I just crossed the finish line stings. I think the ultimate question of "is it worth it?" will have to be answered by renting the GFX and doing my own analysis to fully answer that.

Does anyone else feel that way?

Maybemaybe...Show more →

While I'm not into Sony gear at all I do see how you feel. As I am into the X system I know that GFX could not replace it for me and would be an extra system for certain situations. I could see it being really good for general studio work, high end on location events, portraiture and fashion (ie. selling really big prints) in addition to landscape. But for me I'm not currently doing most of those things so it would be just for landscape for me as well. I've been having the same questions you have and at the end the day I will rent it, check it out and get more information. The X system and GFX system do appear to complement each other very well though. It's a good option to have out there even if don't end up getting it right off the bat

Oct 10, 2016 at 05:56 PM

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Jack Thompson wrote:
My wife saw me scribbling yesterday, looked over my shoulder for a second and said "What are you doing, decoding a secret message or something? No..wait...are those all the lenses you own?" I gave her my most "Hey, I'm innocent" look, while contemplating how far I could get with a secret code story. "Yeah," I said, "plus a few cameras." She just smiled and kind of laughed at me, lovingly (I'm an insanely lucky man). I was approximating how much cash I had in my current DSLR/A7RII setups and trying to wrap my head around what it meant to sell all of it and become a 100% fuji shooter: GFX for landscapes, XT-2 for travel/street and some wildlife.

I have to laugh at all this, having pretty well dialed in my A7RII kit for landscape and street/travel photography, which took quite a lot of research (thanks you all FM'ers!) and money. And if I decided to sell all my current gear, I have to wonder whether or not A7RII bodies/lenses will be dumped wholesale when lots of their owners are sure the performance gain by the GFX is worth it, which makes me wonder whether or not making the switch sooner rather than later makes the most sense as to not take a total bath.

I have to say, I'm conflicted at this stage. As a generalist camera, A7RII has been amazing, frustrating and so interesting as well. It has been my landscape camera and my street camera. Having the choice between going out and shooting with Leica or Zeiss or Canon or whatever has been cool and interesting, but arriving to where I am was such a haul. The adapters, research in alt lens choices, for me anyway, was driven a bit by the fact that was not in love with A7's native, compact AF lenses, and going seriously alt was just making lemonade, and finally, it's damned good lemonade, but what a journey. I can definitely see how folks who've gone fuji for their street/walk around camera have never looked back. Beautiful lenses, and so easy to choose which ones. It's not a hodgepodge of stuff with a host of work arounds to keep everything in order.

Just before the Fuji MF announcement, I had resolved to add a 90 to my A7RII kit and close my eyes and ears to anything gear related as I had pretty much solved the gear challenges I had set out to for landscape/street/travel with the A7RII. Honestly, the thought of dumping it all after feeling I just crossed the finish line stings. I think the ultimate question of "is it worth it?" will have to be answered by renting the GFX and doing my own analysis to fully answer that.

Does anyone else feel that way?

Maybemaybe...Show more →

Thank you for your thoughts! This is how I felt with my A7rII and growing array of GM lenses. I am in a different position as I have sold all my Sony gear, except for my A7s, FE 55 and FE 35/2.8.

If I can adopt the GFX with just one or two lenses it will be great. I do think the RAW images from the GFX will be extraordinary, 16 bit?, DR and smooth fall off and tonality. The XT2 will be more a work horse, while the GFX is more about the passion of photography. It will come down to a pricing level.. is it acceptable or not?

Personally I love the size/weight since I am only looking at one lens for now.

Oct 10, 2016 at 06:24 PM

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Great Quote.

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I wonder if a GFX and single 63mm paired with an X100T (or F!) might not be a good combination? A small camera for travel and "informal" and a large one for formal.

Oct 10, 2016 at 06:48 PM

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Ian Boys wrote:
I wonder if a GFX and single 63mm paired with an X100T (or F!) might not be a good combination? A small camera for travel and "informal" and a large one for formal.

This is my thinking too

My XT2's are great with the Fuji lineup and the GFX will be a natural extension of IQ and ergonomics/haptics.

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Oct 10, 2016 at 07:49 PM

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charles.K wrote:
This is my thinking too

Enjoy your GFX's if you go that way guys

Personally I want the coverage from 10mm to 1200mm or whatever that 100-400 is with 2xTC, so it will be full X system plus GFX or no GFX for me

Plus, I don't wanna take a bat to the head

Oct 10, 2016 at 08:03 PM

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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I wonder if Fuji announced the GFX, and is just watching and monitorig the reaction and chatter as influencing what they charge. That, and waiting to see how the market responds to other products (k-1, new photokina lenses, A99ii, etc.) from now till widespread availability to inform price and stratagy.

Nope. That's not how companies* operate. They work out how much they are going to charge and how many they expect to sell before committing to the work of designing and manufacturing the product, not after. They may be forced to revise pricing based on the state of the market, but that would represent a failure of forecasting, they're not going to plan to change their pricing!

*I should have wrote "successful companies". I have worked at places that did the market research after developing the product. It didn't go well.

Oct 11, 2016 at 08:45 AM

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