p.32 #1 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
We may have trouble with some wides as we do today with Sony. Some issues could crop up here. With image circle being pretty tight to fit we could run into smearing, heavy vignetting and color shift. It's going to depend on several factors to be clean coverage.
Yes there have been some Leica R lenses that have been modified or adapted to fit the Leica S cameras including the Leica R 400mm f4 Modular Apo Telyt lens. As to what they show on the website, I am not sure if that is the original lens that was reported. But if it is, the lens itself had to be cut and modified if I recall correctly to work on the Leica S. Also, if I recall, the lens could no longer be used on a Leica R camera. Additionally, at this point, this only applies to Leica S cameras for Leica users that wished to use R lenses on the camera. In addition, in the film days we knew that some of the Leica R lenses including the 560mm f6.8 Telyt lenses covered even 6 X 7 format and some of these lenses had their tubes modified so that they could work on the Pentax 6 X & film cameras.
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gdanmitchell wrote:
I think that the adapted lens potential can work a bit differently with the miniMF systems like the Fujifilm than it does with FF and smaller. While I agree that not all users will be served well by those non-native lenses, especially if they surrender automation and communication with the camera electronics, I think that given the kinds of things people are more likley to do with such a camera, that the use of adapted and largely manually operated lenses for things like landscape photography myay not be quite such a stretch.
The Sony example actually tends to support this a bit. While not everyone is happy with adapted lenses there in situations where fast automatic lens operation is critical, among folks like landscape photographers, who most often focus manually, the Sony bodies have been perhaps more popular than in some other kinds of photography.
In addition, while quite a few of us here may regard miniMF format as something to move up to, among current MF (and to some extent LF) photographers, they look at it as something that then can move down to while getting very high quality in a much smaller and lighter package. Quite a few of them already have MF lenses that they would happily use, at least at first, on such a camera.
I have no illusions that this will appeal to all photographers who are attracted to the camera, but I think there could be a significant number. (I have at least one nice MF lens that I'd love to use, a lens that isn't yet covered by anything on the Fujifilm road map.)
I can't say that I disagree with what you are pointing out as far as what is physically/optical possible. My point, I think, is not to deny that but to think about the fact that the appeal of such things is likely to be limited enough in this market that we are unlikely to see adapters for the lenses from a smaller system. On the other hand, given the number and variety of existing MF lenses floating around that could work well and provide good corners and all the rest, I think that is where the adapted lens offerings are going to happen.
I do think that adapting existing MF glass will be the option that makes the most sense. I for one would like to try system V series glass on it particularly my 120mm makro-planar. I have heard they have done some custom work on the microlense's to make it more tolerant to older adapted glass. They have also added a lot, I believe 12 electrical contacts to the new G mount so it will be interesting to see if they are planning to natively support electrical compatibility with newer lenses. There's a lot of great older MF glass floating around at fairly bargain prices too
p.32 #6 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Leica S is a 3:2 format so it's a little short of the Fuji at Medium format (45.0mm x 30.0mm). Pretty much the same horizontally but top and bottom a little short . But you still need at least the 45 for the coverage. I think some lenses can do it but not all. Problem is you never really see image circle in spec sheets for 35mm lenses. So this all needs to be figured out somehow.
I would be looking st more MF lenses and your going to need aperture rings on them.. Contax, Hassy V , Older Mamiya are some good candidates to look at.
p.32 #8 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
I didn't know that Leica R lenses have to be modified to use that adapter.
Since I knew the fact that some FF lenses can be used on MF cameras, I am very interested. Imagine I can use 200mm or 300mm fast lenses on a MF for portrait
naturephoto1 wrote:
Yes there have been some Leica R lenses that have been modified or adapted to fit the Leica S cameras including the Leica R 400mm f2.8 Modular Apo Telyt lens. As to what they show on the website, I am not sure if that is the original lens that was reported. But if it is, the lens itself had to be cut and modified if I recall correctly to work on the Leica S. Also, if I recall, the lens could no longer be used on a Leica R camera. Additionally, at this point, this only applies to Leica S cameras for Leica users that wished to use R lenses on the camera. In addition, in the film days we knew that some of the Leica R lenses including the 560mm f6.8 Telyt lenses covered even 6 X 7 format and some of these lenses had their tubes modified so that they could work on the Pentax 6 X & film cameras.
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GMPhotography wrote:
Leica S is a 3:2 format so it's a little short of the Fuji at Medium format (45.0mm x 30.0mm). Pretty much the same horizontally but top and bottom a little short . But you still need at least the 45 for the coverage. I think some lenses can do it but not all. Problem is you never really see image circle in spec sheets for 35mm lenses. So this all needs to be figured out somehow.
Hi Guy,
Unfortunantely for many this will rely on trial and error. But, I do believe there will be a reasonable number of Leica R lenses that may well cover the new Fujifilm format including the R macro lenses and many of their longer lenses.
p.32 #10 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
I am not sure if the R lenses need to be modified. The originally reported Leica R 400mm f4 Modular Apo Telyt lens needed to be modified. But, I am not sure if what you posted is that same lens. I am also unfamiliar with the website and how they are making any adapters and/or if the lens are actually modified as was the first 400mm f4 Modular Apo Telyt lens.
Below is the original modifed lens and one of articles about this, but I am not sure as mentioned if this is the website that you posted:
clmusic wrote:
I didn't know that Leica R lenses have to be modified to use that adapter.
Since I knew the fact that some FF lenses can be used on MF cameras, I am very interested. Imagine I can use 200mm or 300mm fast lenses on a MF for portrait
p.32 #13 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Oh I think several will get it done. We just need to figure out image circle size to see if it's possible. Lot if good R glass. I had most of them when I had the DMR. I used them on Canons bodies as well. Some real sweetheart glass.
naturephoto1 wrote:
Hi Guy,
Unfortunantely for many this will rely on trial and error. But, I do believe there will be a reasonable number of Leica R lenses that may well cover the new Fujifilm format including the R macro lenses and many of their longer lenses.
p.32 #15 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
There hasn't been a market with mirrorless MF yet, either. Hassy by itself is a very narrow niche market. Fuji adds to it and widens the market for adapter viability.
At some level ... FF to GFX Will certainly occur.
1:1 alone makes it very viable. Full 4:3 coverage is just gravy.
joakim wrote:
I assume there are no makers of FF-lens to MF camera adapters today and I wonder if we will see many or anysuch adapters at all.
p.32 #16 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Just putting this out there...
Kippon make a 0.7x focal reducer for Hasselblad MF lenses for various mirrorless mounts, including Leica M. The GFX registration distance is only 1mm more than M, so they could perceiably produce one for GFX...
...then you could mount 6x7 lenses with a 1.1x overall crop factor!
p.32 #17 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
GMPhotography wrote:
Oh I think several will get it done. We just need to figure out image circle size to see if it's possible. Lot if good R glass. I had most of them when I had the DMR. I used them on Canons bodies as well. Some real sweetheart glass.
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adamdewilde wrote:
The 90/2 Summicron-R for sure will cover it.
This is what I was trying to figure out, but it seems it's a trial and error approach...I was going to jump the gun and pick up some glass before it gets inflated.
p.32 #19 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
It's also worth considering that this sensor has a higher pixel density than a D750 so even if you do have to crop to 36x24 you've still got plenty of resolution. A serious option to consider if they get the image processing pipeline righter than Sony.
Fred Miranda wrote:
That's the landscape mode! Love it.
And meanwhile I'm over here wondering how much less the camera would've cost without whatever engineering is involved in the EVF being removable.
I'm constantly surprised by just how small some people want cameras to be. It's a mini-medium-format that's no bigger than D810 for goodness sake! I'm worried the grip looks so close to the big lenses that my knuckles will get torn up on them like they do on the D750!
p.32 #20 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Kit Laughlin wrote:
@ taran,
I do not understand your position on focus peaking: it works brilliantly on the X-E2, allowing perfect focus to be nailed every time (assuming we are not shooting sports) so the fact that it has not changed in five years as you say (if this is true) means nothing—it works perfectly as it is.
And the X-E2 has one-touch zoom magnification. Do you know for sure the new Fuji does not have this?
I have no idea what the Fuji does or does not do. I was merely stating that focus peaking, as a feature, seems to be a low priority for Sony.
Fuji seems to have their act together, so I look forward to what they can achieve with adapted lenses.
@ everyone else, I hope you are right, I was merely stating my concerns as an adapted lens user on the Sony platform, which really doesn't apply here.
In the past, when Fuji combined hardware from Nikon, and their own sensor, via S5pro, the firmware upgrade process was a bipartisan effort, and the process necessitated two engineering teams at two companies collaborating. In this case, Fuji with Sony, I imagine the process to be the same, and that Fuji won't be allowed to offer peaking features that exceed Sony's own cameras. Just as S5 pro never really offered anything better than Nikon's own D200, and cost a hell of a lot more.
Everyone says I am wrong though, in this thread, and other places, so perhaps its not the conspiracy I make it out to be.
