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p.1 #1 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


This is one my night shots from Patagonia. It is a two shot blend. I did a 5 minute exposure for the rocks in the FG to get more light and details.
On my monitor the darker version looks better but I am including a brighter version as well.
I know that not everybody likes these blended images but I would love to hear your thoughts on processing of this image. A lot to learn.
Harsha












Jun 30, 2016 at 10:02 PM
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p.1 #2 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Beautiful image.

I think I prefer the darker version for the mood it invokes for me. I also feel like I'm there looking at the scene. Love all the textures and depth.

As the artist, it is your prerogative to portray the scene however you think is best to remember the moment, your moment and vision...IMHO.

Thank you for sharing your photo. Many of us many never have the opportunity to visit Patagonia.

Lonnie



Jun 30, 2016 at 10:36 PM
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p.1 #3 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Hey Harsha,

Nice work here. I think I like the darker foreground better too.

As for blending, it's always good to declare that. Almost every star shot will require a blend of some sort, so for me I have no issues with it. It's when a blend doesn't look natural is where i would have an issue. The key to good processing is when the viewer can't tell there was blending, dodging, cloning, etc.. But hopefully this thread doesn't spend more time discussing blending as opposed to just enjoying the wonderful work here by Harsha.

Jim



Jun 30, 2016 at 11:33 PM
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p.1 #4 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but I wouldn't hesitate to crop away everything below the mountains. Not for a second. I think the water, and the fact it's so colorful, detracts from that beautiful sky. The foreground rocks are great, and might work wonders for a daylight shot, but they don't compliment those near black mountains, IMO.


Jul 01, 2016 at 12:53 AM
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p.1 #5 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Since you asked…

You did a great job processing the sky—nice color; looks natural. And the composition is nice. The problem I have with these composites of the MW is the transition where the sky meets the ground (in your case, the mountains). The sharpness of the mountains is significantly greater than the sky which, IMO, makes it appear as a composite.

Not sure how you blended the two images, but if you selected the ridge-line of the mountains as your demarcation, it’s obvious. If not, I don’t understand how the mountains are so much sharper than the sky; except, perhaps, a change of focus. I realize the sky is moving relative to the mountains, but the image just looks contrived to me. If the focus was on the sky (i.e., the stars), the mountains should be a slight bit OOF.

Jack



Jul 01, 2016 at 07:49 AM
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p.1 #6 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


lgatlin wrote:
Beautiful image.

I think I prefer the darker version for the mood it invokes for me. I also feel like I'm there looking at the scene. Love all the textures and depth.

As the artist, it is your prerogative to portray the scene however you think is best to remember the moment, your moment and vision...IMHO.

Thank you for sharing your photo. Many of us many never have the opportunity to visit Patagonia.

Lonnie


Thank you Lonnie. Appreciate your input.
Harsha



Jul 01, 2016 at 08:06 AM
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p.1 #7 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


JimFox wrote:
Hey Harsha,

Nice work here. I think I like the darker foreground better too.

As for blending, it's always good to declare that. Almost every star shot will require a blend of some sort, so for me I have no issues with it. It's when a blend doesn't look natural is where i would have an issue. The key to good processing is when the viewer can't tell there was blending, dodging, cloning, etc.. But hopefully this thread doesn't spend more time discussing blending as opposed to just enjoying the wonderful work here by Harsha.

Jim


Thank you for the comments. As always very helpful
Harsha



Jul 01, 2016 at 08:07 AM
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p.1 #8 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Chance2 wrote:
I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but I wouldn't hesitate to crop away everything below the mountains. Not for a second. I think the water, and the fact it's so colorful, detracts from that beautiful sky. The foreground rocks are great, and might work wonders for a daylight shot, but they don't compliment those near black mountains, IMO.


I debated about cropping the image as you suggested for a long time. After spending lots of time getting the FG focus and exposure correct, part of me wants to show my hard work. Anyway appreciate your the comments and input very much.
Harsha



Jul 01, 2016 at 08:09 AM
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jforkner wrote:
Since you asked…

You did a great job processing the sky—nice color; looks natural. And the composition is nice. The problem I have with these composites of the MW is the transition where the sky meets the ground (in your case, the mountains). The sharpness of the mountains is significantly greater than the sky which, IMO, makes it appear as a composite.

Not sure how you blended the two images, but if you selected the ridge-line of the mountains as your demarcation, it’s obvious. If not, I don’t understand how the mountains are so much sharper than the sky; except, perhaps, a
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Hi Jack,
I got the sky and the mountain from a single exposure at infinity. I focus the stars and the stars are tack sharp in my raw files. However I processed the sky and mountain differently. Sky required significant NR in LR (70) vs mountain (30). That may be the difference you're seeing. I may have done a different sharpening to mountain range too. Don't remember for sure. FG shot was processed separately with less NR in LR.
Thanks for taking time to look and critique. Appreciate it very much.
Harsha



Jul 01, 2016 at 08:17 AM
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p.1 #10 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Harsha, I really don't judge my "likes" or "dislikes" in photography by the method used to produce the image. If the final result pleases me then it is a great image. If not then I move on.
It is nice to have the photographer divulge a blended image but not a requirement for me.
Your images are well done no matter how you achieved/processed them. Yes being a single exposure of your quality is highly regarded and harder to achieve by some... Balance in both images is great!
Dan




Jul 01, 2016 at 09:23 AM
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p.1 #11 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Hi Harsha,

Fantastic images. I prefer 1 with the lighter foreground.

I am also learning a ton about post-processing from some of the technically proficient photographers on this forum!

Alan



Jul 01, 2016 at 09:26 AM
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p.1 #12 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


I like it Harsha. Very nice work. Amazing what you captured for the foreground while it was dark out.

Generally for the foreground, I prefer to take a twilight image which allows a much lower iso and exposure time. It is still a shadowless image and with a little exposure and color balance adjustments, easily resembles what one would see with a touch of moonlight.

Great shot. Wonderful place.
Thanks for sharing.

David



Jul 01, 2016 at 09:40 AM
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p.1 #13 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Wonderful shot! I really like this. I am trying to learn more about night photography and have a question for you if you don't mind. Was this a moonless night?


Jul 01, 2016 at 09:47 AM
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p.1 #14 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Harsha
I really like the composition - I think you did a great job in setting this up. As for the processing - I am still too "new" to the MW processing process to offer specific improvements - other than to offer that the foreground looks good - but the mountains and sky are leaning a bit too "black" for me.

My only other nit is the name - this is actually from Torres Del Paine - not Fitz Roy.



Jul 01, 2016 at 10:16 AM
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p.1 #15 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Hi Harsha, this is a great shot, I appreciate all the work involved editing an image like this. I prefer the darker version, and I think you did a super job processing the MW and balancing the sky and foreground. As usual, your composition is wonderful. I was going to comment on the ghost line between the sky and mountains, but when I go to your website, the ghost line is not there. Perhaps you did more sharpening before posting here?


Jul 01, 2016 at 10:21 AM
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p.1 #16 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Chance2 wrote:
I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but I wouldn't hesitate to crop away everything below the mountains. Not for a second. I think the water, and the fact it's so colorful, detracts from that beautiful sky. The foreground rocks are great, and might work wonders for a daylight shot, but they don't compliment those near black mountains, IMO.


That was the first thought that came to my mind as soon as I saw the picture. the mountains and sky are great, what below doesn't belong to the picture



Jul 01, 2016 at 02:07 PM
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p.1 #17 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Very nice images. I slightly prefer the one with the darker foreground. Were it mine, I might even make the landscape (foreground and mountains) slightly darker. All this is subjective, of course. Beautiful images!
Keith W.



Jul 02, 2016 at 12:31 AM
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p.1 #18 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


I really like how you matched the foreground with the mountains, Harsha. I, too, prefer the darker.


Jul 02, 2016 at 06:02 AM
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p.1 #19 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Harsha,
I prefer the darker image. These images are subject to artistic leeway and your rendition IMO is pretty stunning.
The processing looks very good !
Regards,
Dean



Jul 02, 2016 at 10:50 AM
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p.1 #20 · Fitz Roy at 3AM


Both are looking good to me.
Larry



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