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Archive 2016 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless

  
 
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naturephoto1 wrote:
I don't have $14,000 lying around and I don't want to sell most of my equipment to fund this. Also there won't be long enough lenses avaiilable for Wildlife. So a no go for me. Want to also see what Sony will come out with both in terms of their MF as well as the A9, and the A7rIII. At least with the Sony FF cameras I can still use my M mount and my Leica R lenses. Not sure of with the Sony MF when and if released.

Rich


But of course, Rich! MF is not usually associated with wildlife photography, so definitely FF would be the better option for your work.

I think this camera would be ideal for weddings, street, and landscapes, exactly like the Mamiya 7, which it resembles so much.



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:01 AM
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Edward, precisely what I think. I've always toyed with the idea of getting an SL sometime in the future and this camera really changes things (that said, if I had the SL/M i'd still hold on to it, i don't think they're perfectly substitutable anyway). Prior to the SL, I felt if i were to get an AF camera and/or DSLR sized body again, it'd be the Leica S-system. Not sure if i'd get the X1D anytime soon since I'm still dipping my toes into the world of Leica, but I'll definitely follow this X1D and system very closely. Not a big fan of how it looks though.


Jun 22, 2016 at 08:02 AM
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p.9 #3 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


"...but this I think says it all:"

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7294/27506822950_db3d135456_c.jpg

https://blog.mingthein.com/2016/06/22/announcing-the-hasselblad-x1d-50c/#more-13215http://] https://blog.mingthein.com/2016/06/22/announcing-the-hasselblad-x1d-50c/#more-13215[/url]



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:04 AM
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p.9 #4 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


adamdewilde wrote:
(when it comes out 6 months from the X1D) :P


Please, do go on. Tell us more.




Jun 22, 2016 at 08:06 AM
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Specs



Storage capacity 16GB card holds 240 images on average
Capture rate 1.7 - 2.3 frames per second
Display 3.0 inch TFT type, 24 bit colour, 920K pixels; Touch functionality: Yes, full support Live View: On camera, host and iOS device with high frame rate (30 fps)
Histogram feedback Yes (on rear display)
IR filter Mounted in front of sensor
Acoustic feedback Yes
Software Phocus for Mac and Windows. Compatible with Adobe Photoshop Lightroom® and Adobe Camera Raw®
Platform support Macintosh: OSX version 10.10; PC: Windows 7 / 8 / 10 (64 bit only)
Host connection type USB 3.0 (5 Gbit/s) Type-C connector
Additional connections Mini HDMI, Audio In/Out
Operating temperature - 10 ̊C to + 45 ̊C / 14 – 113 ̊F
Wi-Fi & GPS 802.11a, b, g, n, ac (depending on region)
Dimensions Camera Body only: 150 x 98 x 71 mm
Weight 725g (Camera Body and Li-ion battery)
Camera type Mirrorless Large Sensor Medium Format
Lenses Hasselblad XCD lenses with integral lens shutter
Shutter speed range 60 minutes to 1/2000 sec with XCD Lenses
Flash sync speed Flash can be used at all shutter speeds
Viewfinder 2.36MP XGA Electronic Viewfinder
Focusing Autofocus metering via contrast detection; Instant manual focus override
Flash control Automatic TTL centre weighted system. Nikon™ compatible hotshoe
Output can be adjusted from -3.0 to +3.0 EV
Exposure metering Spot, Centre Weighted and CentreSpot
Power supply Rechargeable Li-ion battery (7.2 VDC/3200 mAh)



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:07 AM
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p.9 #6 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


edwardkaraa wrote:
But of course, Rich! MF is not usually associated with wildlife photography, so definitely FF would be the better option for your work.

I think this camera would be ideal for weddings, street, and landscapes, exactly like the Mamiya 7, which it resembles so much.


Hi Edward,

I used to shoot landscape and nature in 4" X 5". Mamiya 7II and Leica R on transparency film for a long time. Still have these cameras and lenses, but haven't shot film since 2008. Of couse also used the Leica R for wildlife.

Will have to see what comes from Sony. And as we have already mentioned in this thread, at least with the FF digital we are now equal or close to the performance of my Mamiya 7II transparencies.

Rich

Edited on Jun 22, 2016 at 08:10 AM · View previous versions



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:08 AM
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aFrIcanSH wrote:
Edward, precisely what I think. I've always toyed with the idea of getting an SL sometime in the future and this camera really changes things (that said, if I had the SL/M i'd still hold on to it, i don't think they're perfectly substitutable anyway). Prior to the SL, I felt if i were to get an AF camera and/or DSLR sized body again, it'd be the Leica S-system. Not sure if i'd get the X1D anytime soon since I'm still dipping my toes into the world of Leica, but I'll definitely follow this X1D and system very closely. Not
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Same here.

My gripe with the SL is that it is a bit too large, and the lenses are huge. Even the 50/1.4 due late this year is a beast. I think hasselblad found exactly the right balance. Body M size, lenses a bit slow, but small. Need to see the performance before taking any decisions. It is a bit ugly, but it's hasselblad ugly



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:08 AM
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naturephoto1 wrote:
Hi Edward,

I used to shoot landscape and nature in 4" X 5". Mamiya 7II and Leica R on transparency film for a long time. Still have these cameras, but haven't shot film since 2008. Of couse also used the Leica R for wildlife.

Will have to see what comes from Sony. And as we have already mentioned in this thread, at least with the FF digital we are now equal or close to the performance of my Mamiya 7II transparencies.

Rich


Fully understand. But from my perspective, the body/lens combination is smaller and lighter than the FF SL. Lenses are half the price. And sensor is 20% larger. Quite an attractive proposition



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:12 AM
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So.... without a shutter we have two lenses. Or I can get an adaptor and use H lenses. I assume the adaptor makes it about the same size as the Pentax. And the H lenses aren't tiny or light weight.

So it looks like I'm better off where I am until the lens range flashes out. Phew! I was wondering how I was going to justify 14K. Might be able to hold off a bit.

Gordon



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:15 AM
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p.9 #10 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


GMPhotography wrote:
Crap it sounds really good. I only watched the last few minutes but two well maybe more jumped right at me size and weight, leaf shutter and the biggy adapter for H lenses. I tested this sensor in a Leaf Credo back awhile back and folks it was really really good. It's all Sony for sure , great high ISO even 3200 was good. I'll find my review and post a link. But this sensor is really really nice. I may get in trouble here would still need a Sony A7rII on hand but I could make that a needed
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Guy, your in trouble!



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:29 AM
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I'm in deep shit my friend. I've been here and have the gold t shirts. It's a scary place. Lol

Having been here with tech cams and DSLR bodies this is so exciting and tempting I can't tell ya. Fact is you can jump right in too with H glass with a adapter as you wait out the line of lenses is very powerful. I'm going to get a demo and review it. I have too. Lol



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:33 AM
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p.9 #12 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


This is way out of my league, but if I won the big lottery, I would still need a wide angle, say 21mm (35 mm FF equivalent) lens to go with their 36 mm and 70 mm.

The perfect trio would be 21mm, 35mm and 85 mm (35 mm FF equivalent) bag of lens gems. Guy, do you have a spare ski mask?



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:33 AM
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p.9 #13 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


There is a H 28mm lens today you can use with adapter


I will start today knitting two ski masks. One is for rental. Lol



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:35 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I'm in deep shit my friend. I've been here and have the gold t shirts. It's a scary place. Lol

Having been here with tech cams and DSLR bodies this is so exciting and tempting I can't tell ya. Fact is you can jump right in too with H glass with a adapter as you wait out the line of lenses is very powerful. I'm going to get a demo and review it. I have too. Lol


Hi Guy,

I would still wait for the Sony A9 and A7rIII. If they really are 72 to 80MP cameras they would probably cut into the difference with the new Hasselblad.

Rich

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Jun 22, 2016 at 08:38 AM
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Is the mode dial push button?










http://petapixel.com/2016/06/22/hasselblad-x1d-worlds-first-compact-mirrorless-medium-format-camera/



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:42 AM
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Agree we have to see what's next for sure. Oh Hassy has a 24mm today at 7 K but they did mention a 30mm native at Photokinia.

Funny thing is like the MF backs and this . Sony is sitting on this sensor it's there's and not sure what is stopping them from doing exactly the same thing. Really they have most of it in place today. They could maybe even use there A glass as it might cover the image circle for this sensor.



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:44 AM
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Reading through the specs...

725g with battery - wow, that's lighter than a Canon 6D!

USB 3.0
Dual card slots
Touchscreen
2.36MP EVF
WiFi/GPS

But no focal plane shutter. That puts a bit of a dampner on it for me as I'd have liked to see what 35mm lenses would cover or almost cover the sensor, and I'd love to see what you could do with the Canon TS-E 17mm and 24mm. Maybe a future version will have an electronic shutter



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:44 AM
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p.9 #18 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


GMPhotography wrote:
There is a H 28mm lens today you can use with adapter

I will start today knitting two ski masks. One is for rental. Lol


I read something about a 30mm lens for Photokina.



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:45 AM
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p.9 #19 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless


mjbetch wrote:
Is the mode dial push button?

http://i.imgur.com/ylRwnmv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fSdOK49.jpg

http://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2016/06/X1D_Front34_View-800x658.jpg

http://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2016/06/hasselbald_teaser_feat-800x420.jpg

http://petapixel.com/2016/06/22/hasselblad-x1d-worlds-first-compact-mirrorless-medium-format-camera/


No Aperture rings on the lenses.

Rich



Jun 22, 2016 at 08:46 AM
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flash wrote:
So.... without a shutter we have two lenses. Or I can get an adaptor and use H lenses. I assume the adaptor makes it about the same size as the Pentax. And the H lenses aren't tiny or light weight.

So it looks like I'm better off where I am until the lens range flashes out. Phew! I was wondering how I was going to justify 14K. Might be able to hold off a bit.

Gordon


Pretty much what I see as well. The release of this camera, imo, is not going to dramatically shake up the market given that it is a closed system. Sony was very smart (or just lucky if they did not plan it) as their system is, by nature, open. Once they get a customer hooked, that customer will likely buy into their lens system down the road. With this Blad, a buyer has to jump in the deep end, financially and philosophically, from the start. I don't think Ricoh/Pentax, for instance, is too worried given that the actual cost of entry turns out to be fairly high for this camera. I do believe that Hasselbald may run into some competiton from Ricoh/ Pentax down the road when they inevitably release a MF Mirroless that's based around an open platform. Still, I'm certainly glad to see this camera as I suspect it might save Hasselblad in the long run.




Jun 22, 2016 at 08:48 AM
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